what next for Chris ott?

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I don't think they're gonna take down the year end lists, since those are clearly valued for longtail traffic, available via one hover and click from the current pitchfork homepage

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link

let him have his empty boasting, dude obviously isn't going to sue anyone, saying nasty things about pitchfork is just his hobby

intheblanks, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

"empty threatening," i meant, don't know why i wrote boasting

intheblanks, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

"oh shit, what about the year-end lists"
"can one of the new kids rewrite any of his contributions?"
"by close of business, probably"
"...Ott on the line. says we also can't use the points he allocated to any albums he voted for in the polls, those count as speech and he wants to be paid for the point allocation"
*blink*
*fifteen minutes of lawyers falling all over each other laughing*

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

It's not about the money. He has that, and bennies.

da croupier, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

can;t we consolidate the Chris Ott threads?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

and then just call it 'itt ott'

Haino Corrida (NickB), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

itt ott orc

Evan, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

that means I love yoooou

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

fwiw ott apparently got what he wanted:

http://pitchfork.com/staff/chris-ott/

reviews appear to be taken down as well, for example:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8969-slanted-enchanted-luxe-reduxe/

intheblanks, Thursday, 15 October 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link

Amazing

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 October 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

And just like that, the fly buzzing at the window has been let out of the house.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

written ott of history

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link

the commottsar vanishes

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link

dude is really mad about this latest development

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link

written ott of history

― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:15 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lolz

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:31 (eight years ago) link

totally bullied them into erasing his written legacy, masterfully played

intheblanks, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link

lol a true mastermind

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link

I know it looks like he's just one overconfident guy foolishly poking at a giant but let me remind you of the story of David. David vs the ATF.

da croupier, Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:30 (eight years ago) link

musta otta gotta lotta

Raz Turned Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link

omg anthony

some dude, Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link

"reviews appear to be taken down as well"

removed by fi-ott

hunangarage, Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link

ott 1: spectre

Raz Turned Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:44 (eight years ago) link

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/329121_o.gif

nomar, Thursday, 15 October 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link

trottsky

(emphasis mine) (wins), Thursday, 15 October 2015 06:14 (eight years ago) link

He got a pitchfork
That made his ears burn

Raz Turned Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2015 09:56 (eight years ago) link

A+ negotiating skills

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 October 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link

"Oh no! Unfortunately, we can't find the page you're looking for — believe us, we really tried."

First time the Pitchfork 404 message has seemed viciously sarcastic

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 15 October 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link

itt ott orc

― Evan, Wednesday, October 14, 2015 11:24 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that means I love yoooou

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, October 14, 2015 11:59 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

belly lol

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

This is genuinely wonderful. What a preposterous clown.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 October 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

http://tktk.gawker.com/pitchfork-deletes-its-harshest-critic-1736804618

Pitchfork, the music website that was purchased by Condé Nast this week, has a tormenter. His name is Chris Ott, and he wrote for the site at an earlier point in its history, though you can’t read any of his reviews anymore because on Wednesday Pitchfork decided to completely erase him from its site.

Ott is a notorious crank who uses his Twitter feed to decry the commodification of the independent arts. At his best he can be a necessary check on the capitalist impulses of the music industry and the publications that cover it. At his worst he can be a straight-up asshole who uses his modest platform to hammer away at personal grudges, many of which seem to end up involving women who make and/or write about indie rock. To some he is an anti-hero, to others he is simply a verbal harasser.

Pitchfork (where I have previously written, and whose staff I am friendly with) often finds itself in Ott’s crosshairs. This is partly because the site has for some time been the foremost arbiter of indie music, in the process growing itself from a ragtag quasi-blog (in the days when Ott wrote for it) into a full-blown company that does big boy website things like packaging major features alongside brands such as Converse and Apple. But Ott also picks on Pitchfork because of his personal history with the site and its founder Ryan Schreiber.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 16 October 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

so necessary, so anti-capitalist

da croupier, Friday, 16 October 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

his gripe w/Joanna Newsome, whose work I don't generally like past Milk-Eyed Mender, is kinda ridiculous insofar as he only addresses her at the level of her "brand" - like, she's an incredibly talented songwriter, I just don't groove to what she does, but nobody who pretends to engage the actual craft can really dispute that she's pretty good at it. I just don't dig, y'know, the content. but this guy, who pretends to care first and foremost about that very quality...doesn't seem to actually know shit from shinola on this q

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 16 October 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

love the gif on jord's piece

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 October 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

Jordan's piece is way fairer than anything I could manage, or than Ott deserves.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 16 October 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

he said joanna newsome is the balsamic vinegar of music
but balsamic vinegar is really good idgi

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 October 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

it was sweet of jord to wait a couple paragraphs to acknowledge that pitchfork has deleted plenty of old reviews before

da croupier, Friday, 16 October 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link

i'll miss this one the most

https://web.archive.org/web/20150926150655/http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1589-shine-a-light

mookieproof, Friday, 16 October 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

y'know, i had some interested in pointing out Ott being a shitbag when there were still plenty of people who just thought of him as a harmless and/or admirable rebel vlogger or whatever, but now that the word is out i don't really see much of a point in giving him more and more and more of the attention he craves

some dude, Friday, 16 October 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

"the frigid, faggy dungeon"

Οὖτις, Friday, 16 October 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Up until very recently I had no idea who Chris Ott was and didn't particularly give that much of a fuck, but after reading this thread out of curiosity I deeply suspect that there'll be more than a few folks out there adopting a similar position in a few years time. Basically, the guy sounds to me like an absolute bellend and I'm in full support of Pitchfork's decision, to be quite honest with you.

Turrican, Friday, 16 October 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

Does he write for anyone else? I feel like he left Pitchfork and then became a Twitter/ask.fm/Vimeo crank with no actual paying outlets for his thoughts on music. So with his body of work effectively disappeared (because come on, the Wayback Machine is for obsessives and no one else), isn't he pretty much out of sight, out of mind from here on?

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

I would guess so.

Turrican, Friday, 16 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

oh so Schreiber says "moving forward" in emails now. He's been bought by The Man.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

i've never listened to the Constantines before what is wrong w/this guy? he sounds like the Gaslight Anthem dude had a stroke

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

tbf i quite like that album but i don't think there was any wresting of abandon from effeminate black-and-dayglo pretenders

mookieproof, Friday, 16 October 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

like this is fine! actually this reminds me a lot of something i forgot about old school "classic" pitchfork, is they would take a solid indie rock band like this band, or wrens, or tapes and tapes, which i guess were all fine and good but you could have found like 3 bands just as good in any decent sized college town and suddenly make them out to be this total genius next big thing

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

like this is fine! actually this reminds me a lot of something i forgot about old school "classic" pitchfork, is they would take a solid indie rock band like this band, or wrens, or tapes and tapes, which i guess were all fine and good but you could have found like 3 bands just as good in any decent sized college town and suddenly make them out to be this total genius next big thing

gotta be honest w/u this is p much how I felt about the 'Mats at the time w/r/t how ppl would be goin off and I'd be like "oh, ok, they get drunk and rock out, cool I guess??"

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

yeah I mean I duno they were no Suicide Commandos

or Buzz Barker and the Atomic Bums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57OgqHtVrBE

or NNB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AWTGExPigI

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link


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