from a forum post:
According to various stories, the rest of that show was either accidentally erased by Klimek's sister when she was fooling around with friends, or deliberately erased by Lou when he borrowed the tape. Personally I'm not wholly convinced by this. Klimek supposedly has hours of uncirculated live VU (supposedly just about every show they played in the Cleveland area, starting with the EPI in 1966), and the rest of this badboy could be one of them.
http://akson.sgh.waw.pl/~kg23187/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1085&start=10
― sleeve, Thursday, 8 October 2015 15:20 (ten years ago)
here's one of the alleged uncirculated klimek tapeshttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPrtjX_UcAAAJgX.pnghe apparently would like them released officially but it hasn't happened yet...
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 15:23 (ten years ago)
^1969
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 15:26 (ten years ago)
saddened by the taped over "hey mr. rain". that "hey mr. rain" from june 13, 1993 is possibly the saving grace of the reunion fiasco. prague got and deserved real velvets.
― rushomancy, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:15 (ten years ago)
yeah apparently the cleveland mr rain was a half hour long. mind boggling.
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:16 (ten years ago)
that "hey mr. rain" from june 13, 1993 is possibly the saving grace of the reunion fiasco.
OTM. It's the best thing on Live MCMXCIII by an embarrassingly wide margin.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:21 (ten years ago)
Agree, but also will throw a bone to "Coyote", the new song.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:01 (ten years ago)
i don't think the 93 live album is quite as bad as everyone seems to think... lou is the weak link, but the others sound good. mainly wish that sterling would've stepped out on lead more -- he only gets like two solos.
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:07 (ten years ago)
Yeah, his "Rock and roll" was a highlight.
When I went to see Moe and Sterl play at the uni, he actually sang! One line, but whoa! Audience shock!
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:21 (ten years ago)
ha, well that's him warbling that one line on the 93 "im sticking with you" right? just realized that the Peel Slowly & See box set is 20 years old this fall... crazy. i can remember saving my pennies and nickels!
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:22 (ten years ago)
Yes, it was that one.
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:23 (ten years ago)
did everyone read this recent/great article about morrison's post-VU life? https://medium.com/@TheAlcalde/what-goes-on-524982f49915
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:24 (ten years ago)
I remember that box as it arrived at ours the same day I got us flights to New York, first time!
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:25 (ten years ago)
perfect timing
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:26 (ten years ago)
Yeah! I thought so.
Good article there too, thanks.
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)
.. Although they suggest they didn't do much from WLWH, but they did most if not all of it, including "The Gift"
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)
yeah three out of six songs... funny that they didn't so sister ray in 93, guess they were too scared. i think i read that they tried it at a rehearsal...
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:37 (ten years ago)
Probably the length of it, they could do five other songs in the time.
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:39 (ten years ago)
ha, great article, never thought abt Morrison being the inspiration for "Tugboat"
― sleeve, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:39 (ten years ago)
yeah, pretty funny. also wild that the UT band he joined kicked him out! great job, dudes.
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:41 (ten years ago)
just realized that the Peel Slowly & See box set is 20 years old this fall... crazy. i can remember saving my pennies and nickels!
got this second-hand a couple years later, with trade-in of my first batch of unwanted promos as a writer, at local CD Warehouse. Thought I didn't like the Velvets, based on friend who became obsessed w/them in 1993 around the time of the reunion (I'm still mostly cool on the first album) but hearing WL/WH and VU and Loaded was a proper revelation. And the liner notes... David Fricke is the king of the form.
― please don't shampoo your eyes (stevie), Friday, 9 October 2015 08:24 (ten years ago)
great article, thanks!
― niels, Friday, 9 October 2015 11:27 (ten years ago)
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I should probably revisit it, but whenever I see the cover, all I can think of is Lou singing "SHINYSHINY. SHINYBOOTSOFLEATHER."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 9 October 2015 13:44 (ten years ago)
lol yeah. lou really has trouble singing a lot of those songs.
― tylerw, Friday, 9 October 2015 14:08 (ten years ago)
My only memory of that 1993 live album is "Linger an-ah-ah-ah-on. Your pale blue eyes."
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 9 October 2015 14:18 (ten years ago)
Never heard it but his guitar playing was pretty good when I saw them.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 9 October 2015 14:24 (ten years ago)
my byline on a true piece of VU trainspotting ephemera! omg. http://41.media.tumblr.com/97a74ca2197ef4c7eed45cd12759db34/tumblr_nxckvmRhyL1qzy30io1_1280.pngit's a "newspaper" promo piece for the Loaded box set (including a flexidisc w/ a demo of "rock & roll")
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:04 (ten years ago)
congrats!
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:10 (ten years ago)
Wow, that is so cool!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)
I would subscribe to a Velvet Underground newspaper, as long as there wasn't a lot of ads.
Congrats btw!
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:38 (ten years ago)
David Fricke, watch out, there's a new kid in town.
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:38 (ten years ago)
haha, thank you. it is quite a thrill.
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 November 2015 16:46 (ten years ago)
too cool!
― niels, Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:28 (ten years ago)
rad!
― brimstead, Thursday, 5 November 2015 20:18 (ten years ago)
"You know how people get when they're cornered? Like triangles."
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:55 (ten years ago)
VU trainspotting observation of the day: billy yule's drumming on the live at max's tape is hilarious
― tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)
Haven't listened in many years but yeah, more or less.
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:58 (ten years ago)
It's really good on the version of Some Kinda Love though.
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:58 (ten years ago)
(Better than Clem Cattini)
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:59 (ten years ago)
That's my brother Doug's brother ... ah forget it.
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:00 (ten years ago)
(lol at your never ending hatred for Clem Cattini. Do you even like "Hurdy Gurdy Man"?)
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:01 (ten years ago)
by "hilarious" i don't even mean "bad" really (though it's sometimes bad). he's pretty entertaining (and seems to be having a fun time).
― tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:03 (ten years ago)
Seeing James Corden play Clem Cattini in that film about Joe Meek didn't help tbh.
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:06 (ten years ago)
some very cheesy fills in "I'm Waiting for the Man." Not terrible though
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:08 (ten years ago)
I still think that's Bonham on "Hurdy Gurdy Man." It's a better story that way.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:09 (ten years ago)
I can't stand the drumming on Max's myself, it's so distracting
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
I like the story just as JPJ told it.(xpost)
― Memes of the Pwn Age (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)
It's a tad, uh, over-enthusiastic. Don't know what they were putting in those free burgers they were feeding young Billy at Max's.(xp)
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:15 (ten years ago)
i guess that's billy on the studio take of "oh sweet nuthin"? some good drumming there. dude was what, 17 years old?
― tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:18 (ten years ago)
Thought that was Tommy from Long Island.
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Friday, 6 November 2015 16:19 (ten years ago)