Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

That's why I wonder if one reason for the $600 outtake dump is European copyright extension -- iirc, after 50 years, anything unreleased essentially reverts to public domain in Europe.

oh, absolutely! they've actually been releasing the earlier stuff in big box sets in extremely limited editions for the explicit purpose of copyright extension. with this one, they just figure they can make bank off of it at the same time.

there's something almost... disappointing about the apparent new strategy for these bootleg series volumes. after years of saying, "i wish they would just release everything from *insert era here*"... well, that's exactly what they're doing.
well, yeah, but at least there are various options. if the 18-disc thing was all they were doing, it'd be kind of crazy, but there are still the 6 and 2 disc versions...

Yeah, I don't really get why they went the super-limited route with those earlier copyright extension releases.

But in all honesty, while I know it's aesthetically the least-appealing option, if the 18-disc set's contents were available as a download-only, I could see myself ponying up $100 for it (like what the Beatles did with their 1963 Bootleg set) (except that was way cheaper than $100) (and hey, why wasn't there a 1964 set?)

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but how can those ever feel like anything but a horrible compromise? :)

don't you at least want to know if they really cherry-picked the best stuff?

i guess i could put it more prosaically: i really want all this music, but cheaper, and above all i can't stand these super-deluxe box sets with the pointless coffee-table books, the vial of dylan's dead skin cells, the bottle of Absolutely Sweet Marie energy juice so you can stay up through all 18 discs....

yeah, i see what you're saying. with something like this, it almost seems like they should roll out a whole other means of presenting it ... like a subscription service or something? i don't know. i mean, i want to hear it all, but yeah, i couldn't care less about 7-inch repros etc.

Guess that means that you are not a real Dylanologist then, right, amateurist?

i guess not!

man i didn't even realise there was an official basement tapes

7 inch repros are plain silly, but I like the booklets

Booklets are only of relevance to the music as presented here are they? I mean there would be no point wnhatsoever to release what's in them outside of the box? Basically I wouldn't mind a proper peruse and might buy something like that if amended for standalone purpose though maybe that greil Marcus book of a few years ago covers the same ground? Or was that just focused on Like A Rolling Stone?

Is there anything out bookwise specifically on this high mercury sound era?

Are these mega-boxes priced at this level to effectively pay for all those that will be sharing the d/l versions with their pals?

Booklets are cool! They have great photos, essays on the period, proper song credits etc. Wouldn't buy the as books, but they're good w/ cd/lp boxes.

Except for the "Bob Dylan e.p.'s" one that came with "Tell Tale Signs", pointless and price-enhancing.

Please someone stop me from getting the 18 disc one...I'm helpless to resist

Don't do it!

Or rather, do it and live blog for the rest of us.

Dont Do It!

LOL, live blogging this -- "That was another false start of 'Like A Rolling Stone'..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0azcWTluaQ&feature=youtu.be

Oh great...I narrowly avoided buying the 18 disc one because I entered something wrong and it didn't go through. Now with this clip thing, I know I'll be back--helpless addict that I am

Is that Penn Jillette doing the voiceover?

Yeah, I can't seem to figure out if I like him or not. I heard he has helped bands like Half Japanese out, but then there's also not good stuff about him?

He's a huge fan of Iggy Pop and Lou Reed. In fact I once saw him standing with Lou outside a yogurt shop on Montague Street. I walked halfway down the block past a bunch of stock still backwards looking people before I learned what the commotion was about.

Penn Jillette is an asshole, c;mon now

he never lets the other dude talk!
anyway, some cool stuff in that vid... funny that "she belongs to me" was initially called "my girl".

Yes. Only other original working titles I know are "It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry" was "Phantom Engineer(s)" and "Visions of Johanna" was "Freeze Out."

Amazon's preselling 6-discs-worth of mp3s for $59 (vinyl's only $69) A couple of downloads are already available.
here tis:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015LDCYDG?keywords=bob%20dylan&qid=1444070669&ref_=sr_1_3_twi_mus_2&sr=8-3

think the vinyl is just the two-disc version... the one for losers, man!

sometimes i like to imagine that teller is a thoughtful, committed democratic socialist

such a shame that dylan never recorded this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1fpDWXwfso

Thanks---oh btw, Penn did have an indie label, 50 Skadillion Watts, with 1/2 Japanese, Moe Tucker, some kind of connection with VU fan clubs etc. hnady back in the pre-Web, mail order daze. Annoyance factor for me is his "skepticism"/trolling re climate change, govt. aid, private charity etc (this last from possibly bogus but plausibly Penn-style Fecebook quotes) cos cool guys like us know the score nyuk nyuk.

Very enjoyable magic though---yet another example of talent/skills vs. personality/opinions, as with Dylan sometimes.

Penn also toured with the Residents early on (he was the announcer/narrator on the Mole Show tour).

I have this record, it's pretty entertaining:
http://cdn.discogs.com/NaRhoUhNtXjWz6_6zD5t3Bq-3yk=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-622877-1223411710.jpeg.jpg

wow that is a pretty rare record! I had never heard of it, cool idea for a label overview:

The premise of this record is that Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller fame) is locked in a hotel room for a week and given the entire Ralph Records discography to listen to and comment on. There is a short excerpt of a Ralph tune, and then Penn comments on it, and so on. Jillette dislikes the records, and by side 2 he has a nervous breakdown.

Thanks all for the Teller opinions. By the way, I bought the 18 disc one!

Wow, MX-80 cameo on a Dylan thread!

I could see D. digging "Cry Uncle" and others from the MX-80 family bush.

Another working title: "Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?" started out as "Look At Barry Run."

And "Positively 4th Street" was "Black Dalli Rue."

that video makes me wish for more visual accompaniment in the bootleg series :P

http://www.npr.org/2015/10/30/451169307/first-listen-bob-dylan-the-cutting-edge-1965-1966-the-bootleg-series-vol-12
might not be of interest to anyone who isn't a total dylan-head, but goddamn i am loving hearing this stuff. that "visions of johanna"! unbelievable.

Had been keeping my distance but now I think I will be pledging my team.

on first casual listen wasn't overwhelmed but I like the crisp remaster sound and look forward to hearing it all proper - johanna is grrrreat!

Would kind of like to hear Nashville Skyline in this series, with more Cash, maybe looser alt-takes of nice neat masters, and songs left off the LP (more like "Country Pie," hopefully). Hard to imagine John Wesley Harding sounding different, but that's what I thought about Kafka 'til I read editions with his outtakes incl. in the back.

Like what I heard on that NPR first listen, but don't think I'm going for the 18 cd box version on Dylan's website.

I went all in on the big boy. Can't wait!

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