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― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
I have my doubts about the assumption that FJM is simply mocking Adams and/or Swift here. In his songs and live shows he's constantly playing with what he finds funny and what audiences find funny and he never stoops to basic snark.
― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
I took it as being mocking of the dynamic of indie/rock guys "legitimizing" covers of mainstream pop musicians
dunno if he actually succeeded in making the songs good (despite the mockery involved) since I didn't get to hear them
but I agree I don't think he does basic snark, he tends to be a bit more complex and subtle than that
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Why do we live in a world where this needs more words than "haha" and a link?
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
http://www.johnallegro.org/images/PhysicianHealThyself.jpg
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
You are talking to a dude who generally thinks 140 characters is plenty!
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link
well, 1000 times 140 characters if you're being honest
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
I feel like all the bad press in this thread is only helping p4k get more hits
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
...ILM could compile a better music review site than p4k and I hate our polls (and hive mind results)
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link
(a monkey with a typewriter could make a better music site so the standards aren't very high)
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
nah i think pitchfork all in all has actually gotten pretty good, the site as a whole has improved dramatically over the years, it doesn't even feel like the same site that it did 5 let alone 10 years ago
― marcos, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
I have axes to grind with it but it definitely is not the shitshow it was 10 years ago
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Its a circle jerk and their music taste is of a shitty p4k hive-mind
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
idk if anything they have gotten broader in their coverage over th years, idk what is p4k's "music taste" in 2015? obv there is a bunch of stuff they don't touch at all but idg how it's a circle jerk nowadays lol
― marcos, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link
i mean i don't even listen to much if any current indie and I find enough stuff to read there
― marcos, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link
Pitchfork started to improve when Stylus colleagues joined.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link
I mean I don't know I have my problems with P4K but at the same time it's ridiculous to say that they haven't made a concerted effort to do a better job of covering more non-indie genres like rap, metal, pop, dance music etc compared to when it was like 12 Rods and The Wrens worship
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
the circle jerks have just gotten more inclusive. all are welcome.
― tylerw, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link
it's a big circle
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
all are welcome!
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000053W7F.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link
tiny mix tapes is more my speed. even though they love Destroyer too.
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/2015-third-quarter-favorites
― scott seward, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
Miny Tix Mapes
― switching letters guy, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link
do we seriously have a 'novelty twitter account' style ilx poster who just posts spoonerisms? jesus that's depressing
― some dude, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link
I think the point of the FJM covers, at least in part, is that how we receive lyrics and lyrical meaning is strongly determined by performative context: TS's lyrics sound like LR lyrics once they're performed in a voice approximating his and all rambly and off-meter. Which is one aspect of why such radically transformative cover versions are often dickmoves (this is the purpose of him saying he's paying tribute to RA rather than TS herself).
― Tim F, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:30 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whatever dumb pseud
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
The notion that the best way to introduce a streaming music service to women is to present it as an emotional dildo is confounding. http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/905-op-ed-women-dont-need-a-man-to-make-their-mixtapes/
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/905-op-ed-women-dont-need-a-man-to-make-their-mixtapes/
Interesting turn of phrase there.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link
That's way too long of a critique for what i assume is a stupid commercial
― The Once-ler, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link
I guess it wouldn't be pitchfork if it wasn't longwinded.
― The Once-ler, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
some dudes been doing that for years with his usernames
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link
okay, i just noticed this pairing on tiny mix tapes. bravo.
Julia Holter: “[Academic music] is music that you can explain, and I find that my music is not always explainable, or ‘makes sense.’”Gwar: “My schlong is very nice. It’s not deformed.”
― scott seward, Friday, 25 September 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link
He's from Paterson, N.J., a place we would almost certainly not be talking about were it not for Fetty Wap
tell that to a 20th century poetry seminar
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 09:35 (eight years ago) link
haha
― niels, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 09:46 (eight years ago) link
Fetty > William Carlos Willams, give him the Pulitzer for " work the damn pole"
3,578 RTs 6,895 Fav
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link
the "we" in that statement doesn't talk about poetry so the sentence is technically correct
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link
Poetry prefers to go by They/Them
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
lmao
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
brb, writing listicle: "Aging Rock Critic or 8chan Gamergate Troll?"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
(not in reference to this thread, per se, but the uptick in critics throwing around phrases like 'SJWs' in reference to articles they don't like is kind of startling and disconcerting)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/1000timesyes/status/649272260625330177
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
Cannot believe I'm AGING out of the important millennial demo that gets their sexual identity validated by the songs on a cartoon show
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
oh hey, saves me some evidence gathering
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
ah, i thought i was being sub-tweeted
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
I'm pretty sure I've talked about this before, it might even be in this thread
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
is it ok to mock thirsty allies or is that suggestive of a secrete mo to not be an ally
― TheFatSJW (D-40), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link
lol forgot about my dn
― TheFatSJW (D-40), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
I def want to start a new thread about this because I think we've def crossed over into an era where "social justice" in music writing is being over-run by straight white men screeching I'M SO ENLIGHTENED at female writers' twitter accounts
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
"era"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
so many eras of social justice in music writing, just can't keep track of them all
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
I remember the being mad at Coco Rosie era
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
also in this era: the gopherguts practice of calling any post one disagrees with "SJW clickbait" (meanwhile, breitbart is A-OK and not trolling for clicks at all) without engaging with the content
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link