pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

i'll bet john grant could do taylor swift justice. he'd probably make me cry if he did one of her songs.

"The problem, and I think this is the true reason Father John had to take down the songs, is that because he's such a great musician, he actually (totally unlike Ryan Adams, who just can't write songs anymore) managed to turn Taylor's s**t songs into real art - even though he tried to show just the opposite. That's just how talented he is, and he reminds me a lot of Lou Reed like that."

Okay, this is actually p diff - the p4k writer did a+ imo

That is pretty funny.

Anyway, the P4k piece isn't helping. "Performing as Father John Misty, Tillman has never pretended his onstage persona is anything other than an affected performance designed to achieve the very verbs he transitions into identities—satirize, provoke, philosophize, and fight the cultural plateau."

Wha?

yeah that's just bad writing. maybe he's trying to clumsily reference Buckminster Fuller there, I have no idea

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cache-ec0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fc3%2F5c%2Ffc%2Fc35cfca289537194c5583ff438f708f5.jpg&f=1

I have my doubts about the assumption that FJM is simply mocking Adams and/or Swift here. In his songs and live shows he's constantly playing with what he finds funny and what audiences find funny and he never stoops to basic snark.

I took it as being mocking of the dynamic of indie/rock guys "legitimizing" covers of mainstream pop musicians

dunno if he actually succeeded in making the songs good (despite the mockery involved) since I didn't get to hear them

but I agree I don't think he does basic snark, he tends to be a bit more complex and subtle than that

Why do we live in a world where this needs more words than "haha" and a link?

http://www.johnallegro.org/images/PhysicianHealThyself.jpg

You are talking to a dude who generally thinks 140 characters is plenty!

well, 1000 times 140 characters if you're being honest

I feel like all the bad press in this thread is only helping p4k get more hits

...ILM could compile a better music review site than p4k and I hate our polls (and hive mind results)

(a monkey with a typewriter could make a better music site so the standards aren't very high)

nah i think pitchfork all in all has actually gotten pretty good, the site as a whole has improved dramatically over the years, it doesn't even feel like the same site that it did 5 let alone 10 years ago

I have axes to grind with it but it definitely is not the shitshow it was 10 years ago

Its a circle jerk and their music taste is of a shitty p4k hive-mind

idk if anything they have gotten broader in their coverage over th years, idk what is p4k's "music taste" in 2015? obv there is a bunch of stuff they don't touch at all but idg how it's a circle jerk nowadays lol

i mean i don't even listen to much if any current indie and I find enough stuff to read there

Pitchfork started to improve when Stylus colleagues joined.

I mean I don't know I have my problems with P4K but at the same time it's ridiculous to say that they haven't made a concerted effort to do a better job of covering more non-indie genres like rap, metal, pop, dance music etc compared to when it was like 12 Rods and The Wrens worship

the circle jerks have just gotten more inclusive. all are welcome.

it's a big circle

all are welcome!

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000053W7F.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

tiny mix tapes is more my speed. even though they love Destroyer too.

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/2015-third-quarter-favorites

Miny Tix Mapes

do we seriously have a 'novelty twitter account' style ilx poster who just posts spoonerisms? jesus that's depressing

I think the point of the FJM covers, at least in part, is that how we receive lyrics and lyrical meaning is strongly determined by performative context: TS's lyrics sound like LR lyrics once they're performed in a voice approximating his and all rambly and off-meter. Which is one aspect of why such radically transformative cover versions are often dickmoves (this is the purpose of him saying he's paying tribute to RA rather than TS herself).

do we seriously have a 'novelty twitter account' style ilx poster who just posts spoonerisms? jesus that's depressing

― some dude, Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:30 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whatever dumb pseud

The notion that the best way to introduce a streaming music service to women is to present it as an emotional dildo is confounding.

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/905-op-ed-women-dont-need-a-man-to-make-their-mixtapes/

Interesting turn of phrase there.

That's way too long of a critique for what i assume is a stupid commercial

I guess it wouldn't be pitchfork if it wasn't longwinded.

some dudes been doing that for years with his usernames

okay, i just noticed this pairing on tiny mix tapes. bravo.

Julia Holter: “[Academic music] is music that you can explain, and I find that my music is not always explainable, or ‘makes sense.’”
Gwar: “My schlong is very nice. It’s not deformed.”

He's from Paterson, N.J., a place we would almost certainly not be talking about were it not for Fetty Wap

tell that to a 20th century poetry seminar

haha

Fetty > William Carlos Willams, give him the Pulitzer for " work the damn pole"

3,578 RTs 6,895 Fav

the "we" in that statement doesn't talk about poetry so the sentence is technically correct

Poetry prefers to go by They/Them

lmao

brb, writing listicle: "Aging Rock Critic or 8chan Gamergate Troll?"

(not in reference to this thread, per se, but the uptick in critics throwing around phrases like 'SJWs' in reference to articles they don't like is kind of startling and disconcerting)

https://twitter.com/1000timesyes/status/649272260625330177

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cannot believe I'm AGING out of the important millennial demo that gets their sexual identity validated by the songs on a cartoon show

oh hey, saves me some evidence gathering

ah, i thought i was being sub-tweeted

I'm pretty sure I've talked about this before, it might even be in this thread

is it ok to mock thirsty allies or is that suggestive of a secrete mo to not be an ally

lol forgot about my dn