The bands that have held up the best for me from the original list are: Magik Markers / Sightings / Burning Star Core.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link
yep. my pedantry is needless as always.sightings / BXC for me too.or maybe mouthus or fat day.i'll get a nosebleed if i try & decide which.
― massaman gai, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
it's cool massaman, i'd imagine that most ppl posting here like having their memories jogged and talking about these bands and scene.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
I try to think about what exactly killed this scene, i think it was the last real organic punk movement based on actually touring, making connections, sleeping on floors until it just became ivy league brats sending MP3s to websites run by millionaires
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
This 2006 Thurston Moore Nightmare Before Christmas seemed like the peak of something - don't think i'll ever enjoy a better line-up:
http://www.atpfestival.com/events/nightmare2006/lineup
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, he really did nail a moment with that. Kind of closes the book on the whole thing, really. Wish I went.
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
Voted Neon Hunk. They had a really enjoyable whimsical quality the time I saw them live, and I think their album was one of the best Load releases of this era.
This was a tough choice; I considered picking Hair Police, Sightings, or Burning Star Core. Gang Wizard, Nautical Almanac, and Friends Forever were also so great. Wolf Eyes too, of course, although I suspect they'll take this poll in a walk.
One of the bigger groups I associate with this scene that isn't on this poll is Pink and Brown.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
I have such a vague memory of going to No Fun Fest in 2006 that I can't actually swear I was there. But I think so... There was an upstairs and a downstairs, right?
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:44 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also non-retro, also immune to being licensed and used in marketing/ad industry
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
Yeah Pink and Brown/Burmese/Total Shutdown/XBXRX/USAisaMonster were too "rock band" for the poll, but all 100% belong in this thread
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
I try to think about what exactly killed this scene, i think it was the last real organic punk movement based on actually touring, making connections, sleeping on floors until it just became ivy league brats sending MP3s to websites run by millionaires― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 3:44 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkalso non-retro, also immune to being licensed and used in marketing/ad industry― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:43 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:43 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ums and whiney otm
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link
Also, ca. 2004 -> 2006 there was def a trend of many noise-rock bands on the fringe of this going the Daydream Nation route and getting decidedly more "pop" to various degrees of success, including Animal Collective, Lightning Bolt, Deerhoof, Xiu Xiu, the Mae Shi, Japanther, the Hella record on Ipecac, um, p4rts + l4b0r
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link
with the apotheosis being the existence of No Age?
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link
haha I was gonna mention No Age, and last night the band I was trying to think of that was from LA, had Ezra Buchla in it for a while, but then went more pop, was ... Mae Shi.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:43 PM (4 minutes ago)
didn't Captain Ahab get money somehow from the Snakes on a Plane thing?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link
wonder if Wolf Eyes gut some bux for that time they were on The Office
― circa1916, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
Since this is turning into post-2006 LETS MONETIZE THIS discussion, I think Cold Cave in the Radio Shack commercial is probably the best example
http://scaryideas.com/content/15143
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link
All of which is hilarious since the Locust somehow had a small industry of selling 5 different colored versions of the same record to dorks, and branded belt buckles and (**alleged, must credit Jessica Hopper**) coke mirrors and they didn't have to have Red Bull help them!
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link
anyway, this movement was the last time i believed or cared about anything that wasn't kanye west or death grips, peace out
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link
really appreciate this thread and the contextualization of a scene I took for granted at the time (aside from USAisamonnster, who used to play shows in our basement and were/are awesome guys)
― sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link
Hah hah, yeah massaman, I was singling myself out for pedantry as much as anyoneelse. Just hard for me to be objective about much from this scene/era, as it was very important to me at the time. I literally heard about almost all of these bands through friends, other bands, maga(zines), or seeing them in person. Very few from online stuff at all. Last gasp of that kind of thing for me.
― grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
It lasted for a pretty long time and got more press than it maybe should have, considering the nature of the music, but it deserved it. Not sure what killed it other than that it probably needed to die in some way. It wasn't destined to go any farther than Wolf Eyes signing to Sub Pop and jamming with Anthony Braxton I don't think.
I used to make fun circa 2003 or so of the "Providence haircut", which was a weird thing where a bunch of bands coming through Charlottesville all had the Brian Chippendale hairdo involving the look where it appeared that someone attacked you in your sleep with a pair of clippers. It caught on more than you would have thought ....
― grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link
we used to refer to that as "rocking the grouphome look"
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 02:47 (eight years ago) link
16 Bitch Pile Up - girls. boring, sorry.Air Conditioning - sightings wannabesBurning Star Core - boringCan't - pretty goodDead Machines - good band especially the heavily echoed horn partsDouble Leopards - good band usually, sometimes not 'on'Excepter - good bandFat Day - punk rock, annoyingFat Worm of Error - ehForcefield - good bandFriends Forever - fiery pumpkinsGang Wizard - black bean and placenta oldschool A+ free rockHair Police - never a fan but they triedHive Mind - brrrrrzzzzzzzJohn Weise - very valleyKites - comic books sometimes funny, interesting melodic sensibility, very weird personLanded - best of all timeMagik Markers - great live band, great people, but they are a rock n roll bandMammal - originators of today's thump thump technoizeMetalux - never really my thingMindflayer - great band, lots of fun live, feedback is goodMonotract/Carlos Giffoni - eh, not my thing i guessMouthus - really good band. Nautical Almanac - visionary american outsiders; true freak flag flyersNeon Hunk - badNoise Nomads - fun, keepin it real to this dayPrurient - too machoRusted Shut - rock band. bad.Sick Llama - never really listened to this stuffSightings - great.Wolf Eyes - trip metal. amtapes/hanson classic for all timeYellow Swans
― ian, Thursday, 24 September 2015 04:09 (eight years ago) link
oops yellow swans - lots of records. pretty okay usually.
― ian, Thursday, 24 September 2015 04:11 (eight years ago) link
no newton no cred
― ian, Thursday, 24 September 2015 04:21 (eight years ago) link
D yel swans - drone bros
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 05:30 (eight years ago) link
Hair Police for me, no contest
then Yellow Swans
this thread rules
― alpine static, Thursday, 24 September 2015 06:36 (eight years ago) link
Feel like I missed out on a lot of this except for Double Leopards, Magik Markers, and Gang Wizard.
POX or C90 please!
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 September 2015 08:43 (eight years ago) link
Never really warmed up to Mouthus or Yellow Swans. Shows I saw (just a couple by each) weren't particularly memorable, so I didn't delve super far into the records. I know a lot of folks whose taste line up with mine pretty well really liked them, so maybe I just saw some bad sets etc. Kind of a problem with a lot of bands like this in that you could catch them on a bad night and it wouldn't translate at all.
The thing that Fat Day did that I loved was the use of the weird home-made synth helmets and shit that they wore and would play between songs. It was weird and fun in a pretty cool/unique way to me, and it set up the explosion into short blasts of rock well.
And yeah, Nautical Almanac the legitimate weirdest in a genuinely on-their-own-planet kind of way most of the times I saw them. Liked them best when they stuck to the cracked home-made electronics.
― grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link
Very surprised by the lack of love for Yellow Swans. One of the most lasting groups on this last for me, especially their last couple records, absolute stone killers. They got better and better live as they went along too. Not sure what "killed" this scene but it was mega important to me in college, doing a radio show, going to shows at The Smell and Il Coral (anyone?) I think there have been some interesting connections/evolutions from a lot of the players here...Wolf Eyes is still super-viable to me, at least live. Captain Ahab is in Clipping., Pete Swanson went noise-techno (pretty good!). I think a lot of these people just had kids/real jobs and retreated from the scene, as you do.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
Rusted Shut is the Crazy Horse of noise. i sat next to them at the bar, they seemed like they've seen too much. Band I would least like to fuck w/of any on this list.
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
are you running for garrison keillor of ilx or something, matt?
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
You know who is probably the most consistently amazing band of this class, if not the most consistently amazing band of our generation, is Black Dice
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
Here the three biggest scene round-ups that I remember
Ben Sisario, SPIN, 2004: http://www.spin.com/2004/12/art-noise/
Brandon Stosuy, Village Voice, 2005: https://web.archive.org/web/20050317000015/http://villagevoice.com/music/0511,stosuy,62088,22.html
Young Whiney, CMJ, 2002:https://books.google.com/books?id=LyoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA1&ots=b-iNWXPcui&dq=cmj%20come%20on%20feel%20the%20noise%20rock&pg=PA53#v=onepage&q&f=false
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
hahah when i saw that article was from 2002, my first thought, was, it's about that Oops the Tour thing, and yes, i was otm
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
i was always deejbent that I was first on the ball with that but the other two pieces got way more play, but I didn't really know how the internet and timing and all that worked in 2002
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
lol @ deejbent, i was gonna say, i don't want to do "a suzy" and play gossip-maven here
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
Oops Tour was my Woodstock
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
who was Sha Na Na?
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
Quintron obv
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
I saw the Tampa show with Rah Bras, and the Brooklyn show with Avey/Panda iirc
It's kinda annoying that the only bands mentioned in those articles that are from the West Coast were the Locust and Erase Errata (i am a major fan of the latter). It's the standard alt-journalism thing though: the premise is that they are surveying "the underground" but then they only pick a certain part of it and just ignore the rest, and don't even do the boilerplate "vibrant scenes also exist in these other places i am not going to write about"
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
what bands would you have included in this thread from the West Coast & etc?
― sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link
which west coast noise band would win in a fight?
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
Well, also, the real ground zero WAS Providence, Rhode Island, which ultimately became a filter to/from brooklyn and baltimore, there's no way around that
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
I think it's great that they got so much attention. Nice people! Very industrious.
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
Providence would be nothing without GX Jupitter-Larsen.
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
hahah and he's from the West Coast! (nb do not make pirate jokes to GX's face)
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
ha that was the point I was trying to make!
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link