listened to a few tracks. sounds like something he just threw together at home for fun and he should have just given copies to his friends and family as a goof. but maybe he was sad that nobody cares about him anymore? and here people are talking about him, so, there you go.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 September 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link
Ryan Adams is so far up his own ass he very well might disappear.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 21 September 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
Wonder if this is going to be his highest-charting album.
― something totally new, it’s the AOR of the twenty first century (tipsy mothra), Monday, 21 September 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link
mark kozelek version would have been better.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 September 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link
normally completely agree with suggestion that treacly acoustic covers of chart pop songs by pale balladeers are unwelcome
but it's taylor swift
that's baked into her thing at the molecular level no matter what collaborators she's currently using
― james brooks, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
also fwiw it's mostly a full-band record, not some tossed-off "ironic indie aoustic covers" thing. almost as slick as the original, in a different way.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's also not really ironic
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link
anyway i kind of hope the ultimate product of this is ryan producing taylor's next record
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
also, it's a lot more roots than indie isn't it? makes more sense in a swift genre perspective too
― niels, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link
i am just coming by to say I love that he turned Welcome to New York into a Springsteen song, it was so obvious looking back now but it kinda delighted me
and i really like this album
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
sounds pretty good to me altho I'm not a taylor fan so i don't know 70% of these songs. So for me it's basically a new Ryan Adams originals album with a few covers.
Shake it Off is annoying by both artists tho.
― Spottie, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
the verse kinda reminded me of "i could never take the place of your man" so i was just sort of hoping that was a natural result of compressing taylor's lyrics into a rock structure
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
omg you're right. i didnt hear that the first time but that's def there
'style' is not my favorite, something about it feels illfitting/awkward
his version of 'out of the woods' makes me like hers a bit more now, i never took to it til now
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ZTuatCU.png
can't figure out if this is expert trolling or otm
― niels, Monday, 21 September 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
omg
all you had to do was stay!
brilliantit's one of my faves on her album & he nailed it, pretty much perfect <3
sorry I'll stop
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 September 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
i was tentative about this but i've listened to it like three times idk
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
think "this love" is the best cover on this, he really expands it emotionally
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
feel like greg dulli could do a killer cover of "i wish you would"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
I really wish he and mark lanegan would cover more things.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
so yeah v predictably the sparest covers here work the best for me (plus "All You Had to do Was Stay")
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 21 September 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
i wish ryan adams and mark lanegan and greg dulli would make an album together that i would never listen to. of N.W.A. covers naturally. done country style. because those are HILARIOUS.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 September 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
I don't really think any of those people are into ironic lolsy covers?
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 21 September 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
I gave up on him from gold onwards but akm is quite right aboug love is hell, it is pretty good. He often reminds me of jeff buckley there. Another diva. Btw the title track is one of the weaker songs.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 21 September 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
And why the hell did he cover wonderwall, the biggest stinker in the universe?
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 21 September 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
My 10-year old daughter's reaction: "Wow, this really makes you pay attention to the bad lyrics." I think she liked it, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link
father john misty covering ryan adams covering taylor swift:
https://soundcloud.com/fatherjohnmisty/blank-space
― scott seward, Monday, 21 September 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
In future, we will all have covered Taylor Swift.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link
the narcocorrido ballad style on "I know places" is p dope imo
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 21 September 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link
'that's how you get the girl' <3 <3 <3aaahh killing me rn
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
I would never listen to Taylor but I like this album
― calstars, Monday, 21 September 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
He is slated to play Bridge Benefit this year (and I am going), hoping for a Taylor set (plz o plz)
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, this is very much of a piece with that last album, so I like it a lot. Swift's songs are at their essence pretty simple, so it's neat to hear him take them in the opposite direction. Not huge pop productions but dark night melancholy, more or less built on the same basic frames. Fun exercise to hear them re-contextualized. His conviction is key.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:09 (eight years ago) link
listened to a few tracks. sounds like something he just threw together at home for fun and he should have just given copies to his friends and family as a goof. but maybe he was sad that nobody cares about him anymore? and here people are talking about him, so, there you go.― scott seward, Monday, September 21, 2015 9:01 AM (8 hours ago)
― scott seward, Monday, September 21, 2015 9:01 AM (8 hours ago)
The first part of this may be true - and I suspect might've been had Taylor not responded publicly - but the second part of this makes me think that it's just maybe a teensy weensy bit possible you have no idea what you're talking about. There was significant press/buzz around the self-titled release. He sells out multi-thousand-capacity venues all over the world. People definitely care about and talk about Ryan Adams, though not as many as Taylor Swift.
I'm not here to play Cap't Save-A-Sad-Troubadour but the ignorance of RA's sound, style, stature, etc., in this thread is ... oh wait, no, it's exactly as expected.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
i guess i just never hear about him.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link
Fair enough. :)
― alpine static, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link
read the rolling stone thing today where he said he started doing it by himself with a 4-track a la Nebraska but then went into a studio instead. he also said he had no intention of releasing it and that he was just gonna make it and play it for taylor and be done with it. which i totally don't believe.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
he's big in Japan
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
you have to admit though that people who NEVER think or talk about ryan adams are doing just that right now. including me. so, really, it was a good idea in the immediate scheme of things.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:37 (eight years ago) link
"you got that Daydream Nation look in your eye"
― calstars, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:42 (eight years ago) link
you just have to mean it.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ryan-adams-on-his-full-album-taylor-swift-cover-you-just-have-to-mean-it-20150921
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link
ok calling this a "novelty-free endeavor" is either reaaalll tongue-in-cheek or just absurd
― da croupier, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link
(this thread was also started 10 years ago and it took 6 years for someone to revive it. i'm not the only person not thinking about him around here...)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link
There are probably two dozen Ryan Adams threads, I'm pretty sure at least one other was active before today.
This album is definitely a novelty, so I think by "novelty-free endeavor" someone might mean it's not ironic. Which it is not. Which, of course, means it is. (Though it isn't)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link
i have zero intention of giving this the time of day because acoustic indie covers of pop songs can go fuck themselves always & forever...
― lex pretend, Monday, September 21, 2015
oh please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLWpyRAaybU
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 02:34 (eight years ago) link
I really like most cover versions from the Speak Now tour, even the lamest ones sounded earnest. Her "Summer of 69" cover is a total highlight.
This improves on the second listen, with diminished expectations. Getting to track #10 wasn't as difficult as the first time.
― cpl593H, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link
Even though the arrangements in this version of the album sound more unified than the original, in Swift's version there was a sense of progression from track 1 to 13 that's missing here. The original sounded like there was a story unfolding; this one goes for more of an atmosphere or a kind of mood, but I find it more aimless.
― cpl593H, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link
So much hate. I like it a lot.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
I can't stop listening to it, I love it
I'm even warming up to 'Style'
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, September 21, 2015
OTM
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
man i can hear a kate bush cover of his cover of into the woods dying to get out and it is incredible. or tori.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link