neat
― flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Friday, 18 September 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link
as we said back then (..maybe)
hey best buy pushed the hell out of her back then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbR73AITYz0
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
ILX's last mention of him was 2008! again, a Best Buy sampler favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWwdh6FGL4M
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link
holy fuck, is that Ashlee Simpson?
this sounds like Goo Goo Dolls if Metal Blade were the name of their cutlery sponsor instead of a punk label.
― hackshaw, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link
yep that's Ashlee Simpson. he was dating her at the time!
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:23 (eight years ago) link
most Puddle of Mudd songs are still pretty well remembered but I'll be damned if I've heard anybody hum or sing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyDykQWck74
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link
I even remember singing this at a karaoke night once! now I barely remember its hook at all (mostly cos, like most Musiq songs of the time, it didn't really have one!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBD8t0sB-4
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link
like "Hemmorhage", this was a pretty big hit. but it's not like your gonna hear it anywhere unless you're wine drunk at a Sizzler on a Thursday evening or shopping for Hallmark cards. insanely forgotten band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac3HkriqdGQ
― hackshaw, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link
haha I forgot about their second "hit"
their first one was ubiquitous enough
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link
I think that song is also played at my gym :(
― skip, Friday, 18 September 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
sure sounds like it'd get you pumped up for your workout. i always think of this one time at the Y when "tears in heaven" came on, you could just see everybody in the whole room slow...ing.... down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwgqflNYFu0
Dexter Freebish - Leaving Town. Released late 2000, though apparently, it was in 1999 that "the band won the John Lennon Songwriting Contest Song of the Year for their song “Leaving Town," picked from approximately 27,000 entries." Call me a sap but I think this is actually kind of good? Suffers from all the production tics and visual doucheyness of a lot of Good Haircut Mall Rock of this period but that's a pretty good chorus there.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 September 2015 04:26 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5O0qH4LLQ
Eve 6 - Promise. Lead single from the album that followed the big hit. This one got quickly forgotten once they scored a decent-sized hit with "Here's To The Night." It isn't exactly a rewrite of "Inside Out," although it may demonstrate some basic limitations on Eve-6's range. One of those songs where the chorus itself is less interesting than the pre-chorus ("Red as a newborn, white as a cooooorpse"). Still, I'm finding myself kinda liking it now that I'm not just completely burned out on this entire sound; there was a time when even just the guitar tone and compression here signified "sell-out radio rock" to me so hard that I just couldn't deal. It happens that all these mediocre post-alt-rock songs I've been posting pretty much date from this period: my freshman and sophomore years in college, getting more and more thoroughly into indie rock but still living in the dorms and vegging out to an alarming amount of MTV2.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 September 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eebfMFzJHNs
Green Day - Warning. A genial little strummer, one of the least Green-Day-sounding Green Day singles. Along with "Waiting" and "Minority" from the same album, it got a little bit of play at the time but (like the late-90s cuts which appear on the other thread) they never grew into hits and obviously the next album was a gigantic comeback that sort of rewrote their whole narrative. Had American Idiot never happened these probably would just be the last trailing-off singles of a bad most people assume broke up years before. Thing is, I kinda like the sound of this thing, much more laid back and almost "roots rock" than the strained ballads and obnoxious curtain-raisers to come.
Speaking of these guys...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUW2Lkmskus
The Network - Joe Robot. "Don't tell anybody" side project teaming Green Day with members of Devo and maybe trying to sound like Gary Numan more than anything. A minor, one-riff little thingy, refreshingly odd IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd3Y4o95ObU
Big Dumb Face - Duke Lion. The much-hoped-for Wes Borland solo project, which was disappointingly not a bunch of effects-pedal noodley guitar layers, but rather a scratchily-recorded wacky number for the Zappa/Primus/Ween set. At least he followed his dreams.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 September 2015 04:48 (eight years ago) link
Digging "Money Can't Buy Me Happiness," btw. Never heard that before!
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 September 2015 04:50 (eight years ago) link
am I going here? oh yes I am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDZxnawFph4
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 04:52 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tKILoxrQ4
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 04:53 (eight years ago) link
dream and willa ford will never be forgotten in my heart <3
lol the jive jones thing was the first song that came to mind when i saw this thread
― dyl, Friday, 18 September 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link
Heh, kept thinking about posting Eve 6's Promise.
I'd say the follow up single is even more forgotten than that one, which I remember getting radio play:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbvXG9tMyJk
I really should just look through my Mix CDs I made in high school for stuff for this thread, since there's already been quite a few posted here already that were on them.
― MarkoP, Friday, 18 September 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link
love this thread! reminds me of bob stanley's idea that you become a pop fan when you're 10-12 years old and curious about/into everything on top40 radio.
"stuck" is a p good song imo, surprised it went til the 1:00 mark before chorus kicked in
"he loves you not" was all over back then! such an aguilera-ish jam
for those who don't click the halfpipe-video, here's the chorus:
If I die before I wakeAt least in heaven I can skateCause right now on earth I can't do jackWithout the man up on my back
― niels, Friday, 18 September 2015 10:45 (eight years ago) link
"Stuck" was cool but I preferred Stacey's follow-up single "(There's Gotta Be) More To Life":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOcQnWbk_U
― Tim F, Friday, 18 September 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link
Mmh, that one resonated... Do remember a radio dj mocking the weltschmerz of teenage Orrico quite - to me - convincingly. Made it hard for teenage niels to admit to liking the song. Often on my mind though, good chorus.
― niels, Friday, 18 September 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
Was trying to figure out why that Sev song seemed familiar, then I realized it's what Pepsi used in it's Pepsi Blue commercials.
― MarkoP, Friday, 18 September 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link
And in the "Was a Big Hit in Canada One Summer (Especially in Quebec)" category:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpr6tii15Y8
― MarkoP, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link
probably the bgm for idk how many mtv segments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w869Avr_fXI
― hello, it me (clouds), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link
this thread is incomprehensible on zing or firefox
― let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Friday, 18 September 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
You can see why it won a songwriting competition - pretty lame performance but a good backbone.
― skip, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtN83-vQmw
― hackshaw, Friday, 18 September 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link
Eeeeewwwww
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link
lol i love that song/album
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 18 September 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
I jumped off the goo canoe around Dizzy up the girl...so I come in with baggage.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link
that song is shitty but i can actually appreciate the earlier Goo Goo Dolls hits in 2015. it's like some sub-Westerberg pining (which i'm a sucker for) with a lot of gloss and a lot of feelings, man.
which i guess is the same for most 90's alt hits that sounded corny upon arrival but are now tugging at your heartstrings when they come on the radio
"Name" especially
― hackshaw, Friday, 18 September 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
Hmm yea I was into A Boy Named Goo.
Lol I remember learning to play Name from some Internet tab site. Weird fucking tuning.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
God I heard this daily on the hip hop station
https://youtu.be/GEeSSlIukng
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
^^ Case "I'm Missing You"
https://youtube/-qnSz6Lh5pY
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link
Feckin phone. Was trying to share that dreadful Isley Bros/R Kelly joint..."Contagious"
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 18 September 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
"On The Roof Again" drawing a blank from me but I'm having fun imagining them being handed those awful programmed drums and saying "sure, okay" while their drummer glares at the whole room, unable to believe what's happening.
In general, I'm really struggling to think of genuinely good, not-just-mediocre picks for this thread. I'm wondering if part of it is the fact that this period brings us into the ILM era, and more generally a ramping-up of archived internet pop cultural knowledge of things, plus streaming etc., where like, I could bring up something like "Caught Out There" which most people in the (US) street probably do not remember (or haven't thought about since 2000, but which i cannot imagine is thought of as "forgotten" on ILM.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 September 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link
on the other hand, i've always liked outkast's ropey contribution to the scooby-doo soundtrack, "In the Land of a Million Drums," complete with a plethora of references to Scooby paraphernalia, though not having seen it, I can't say whether it rises to a Will Smith/ODB/LL level of detail about the actual plot. IIRC the stocking-stuffer post-Stankonia greatest hits came out right before this, leaving it especially stranded since they never had another comp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMED7GERpeQ
Andre's bridge is a real time-filler but I like the attempts to make a "spooky cartoon" sort of sound, really does kinda feel like a van rattling down the road with a busted axle. I've also rarely enjoyed Killer Mike as much as on his completely silly verse here:
Woke up from a long night of hanging out with ShaggyOh no, lost my last bagg-ie of Scooby SnackiesShaggy wake up -- we've been had!Our Scooby Snacks, they got the whole stashHe said, "Who? Who?" I don't have a clueI suspect the thirteen ghosts of Scooby DooCall Vincent Price up, on the NextelTell him send another package right through the mailIn the meantime, imma call Velma, and tell her,To get the Mystery Machine readyI'm two-wayin' Daphne and FreddyMe and Shaggy dressed in all black, strappedDippin' through the flash, tryin' to get our stash back;Roundin' up suspects, collection' clues!I got a question, where the ---- is Scooby Doo, when you need 'em?The hound's only found when you feed himIn fact, he probably got my sack... Tell 'im holla back!
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 September 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link
for a while this was how every song sounded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_pDcmDtnbM
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
OTM. lotta "Genie in a Bottle" wannabes in circulation, probably more than "Baby One More Time" wannabes.
also, is there a handy word for the guitar sound at the beginning of "leaving town," the bridge of "flavor of the weak," and the start of "she's so high"? it's this certain kind of processed prettiness that I think is supposed to add yearning-ness, maybe keep a guitar band closer to boy-band territory in terms of emotional accessibility/vulnerability. i'm imagining an effects pedal with a dial for "thoughtfulness and sensitivity," you stomp it when you're about to switch from the loud part to the quiet part.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH8FctYMM80
Black Eyed Peas ft. Macy Gray - Request + Line. Pre-Fergie BEP, nonetheless shedding a bit of their conscious backpacker thing and stepping (especially in the visuals) towards the club-pop turf that made their fortunes. Still kind of an interesting/strange idea about a single; it's very laid-back, sounding almost like a remix of itself (especially in the most interesting touch, Gray coming in ghostily to quote "Last night a DJ saved my life"), but without any kind of urgent plot line or need to exist. I remember my roommate mishearing the chorus as "Tell me your secrets, mister radio man," which is already way more engaging. Gray's raspy voice is a good foil for the incipient techno-futurism of the rest of the proceedings, and overall I'd much rather hear this than either Madonna's "Music" or L-Lo's "Play," similarly devoted to music or the playing thereof but both much more obnoxious.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
i don't think this ever got any significant radio play but it got played a lot on mtv (i apologize in advance for reminding you all of it b/c it's awful)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtcb4E0Ado0
― dyl, Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
Probably best remembered as "That group Nicole Scherzinger used to be in before the Pussycat Dolls":https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHdCSLeS2rc
― MarkoP, Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
goddammit i had nearly forgotten about "shaniqua"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
i'd post eamon but let's be real no one has forgotten eamon
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
fuck it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYwyaCd8MyI
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
wikipedia claims ellie greenwich co-wrote fuck it which seems questionable at best
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
although this is the guy who added that to the article so who knows https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Giovannii84&offset=&limit=500&target=Giovannii84
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DK-z5EXzw
Danish example. These guys were everywhere in the media at the beginning of 01, claimed they were going to 'revolutionize Danish rock', part of a wave of young bands, who were all going to modernize Danish rock out of the grunge-years, basically by copying Coldplay or Kent. Nearly everyone of them had nonsensical two-part names (Racetrack Babies, Carpark North, Moon Gringo, Racing Ape, stuff like that. Moon Gringo were awesome, though.) A few months later Is This It hit, nobody thought Coldplay-copying was actually cool anymore. Jupiter Day broke up before releasing a second album.
Swedish version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rayIckOBmo
― Frederik B, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link
Not exactly forgotten but curiously far from every day consciousness.
The video isn't even on YouTube, although that's possibly for NSFW reasons.
Add N to (X) - Plug Me In
https://vimeo.com/88573125
― Noel Scott Emits (Noel Emits), Monday, 18 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
yikes, NSFW indeed.
no memory of that one at all - a UK thing maybe?
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
I guess mileage does vary with this kind of stuff, but a lot of what's in this thread I never even heard of. Granted some of these that I've googled were VERY minor hits, if that, (ie. never charted at all or hit like #67 on the rap single sales chart for a single week or received airplay in certain markets but didn't really impact elsewhere or w/e)
Either way still cool to be exposed to these songs - some which reveal quite clearly why they never really "made it".
Anyway, my contribution for "once a hit, now totally forgotten" would be Guster's "Satellite" and their lesser hit "Amsterdam"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekt6PELAcEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0TQVbiWeEs
Once recurrent on Triple A / Adult Top 40 stations (my local "Dave Matthews and friends" AAA certainly did anyway) circa the mid-late 00s, I don't recall having heard these played anywhere this decade whether on terrestrial radio, satellite radio, grocery store/mall PAs. In fact, I totally forgot they existed until some music journo types brought them up on twitter.
― gregorianpants, Thursday, 21 November 2019 06:50 (four years ago) link
saw a promo 12-inch for this one in the racks at a record store recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBe1ybJarMo
don't ask me how, but i recognized it as one of a number of tunes pushed to top 40 radio from new/unestablished artists in 2001 that ended up going basically nowhere.
a few others fitting the same description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLdvMQgltTE
this one i remember hearing, but very little. it might have gotten voted off the new music battle that my local station would air on weekday evenings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAo7TTM81gU
like "hottie," another example of the sort of youthful 'rhythmic'/dance hybrid sound that was being somewhat more successfully taken to airwaves via artists like jessica simpson ("irresistible") and christina milian ("am to pm")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maROJsdJNCA
i definitely heard this, but i'm not sure if it was on the radio or on tv?
― dyl, Thursday, 21 November 2019 07:42 (four years ago) link
Oh yeah, “Miss California”, massive hit in Europe (number 1-ish in these parts) - but true, I had completely forgotten about it, even though I quite liked it at the time.Also in People who have obviously written their own Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Thomas
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 21 November 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
oh i had no idea "miss california" was a big hit internationally. makes sense tho, pretty catchy tune even if the artist is not an especially distinctive presence on it... lol that wiki page is really something
― dyl, Friday, 22 November 2019 04:21 (four years ago) link
listening to the lindsay pagano song again and tbh the chorus melody is kinda great, too bad the verses are horrible/clunky/aimless and sound like they're part of an entirely different song
― dyl, Friday, 22 November 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link
you're good, dyl! these threads inherently involve subjective experience and the vagaries of memory. i mainly just want to shake out things a step or two above "effectively unreleased and unheard," but below stuff that nobody on ILM needs reminding of even if it's faded away a little.
the production on that ashley ballard one is a real time capsule of like, two years before it came out, and amanda's "everybody doesn't" isn't much more a creature of 2001.... or did this stuff hang around longer than my brain is remembering? the hooks just all sounds like rewrites of "sock it 2 me" and "genie in a bottle" to my ears.
huh wow i've definitely heard that Satellite song plenty of times but never knew it was Guster, who i figured must have broken up after their contributions to the late 90s equivalent of this thread. it's from 2008 though - is it time to establish a late-2000s edition?
just updated the spotify playlist with various recent additions. "Miss California" isn't available but that's no mark of shame - to this day, "Land of a Million Drums" languishes off the grid. sigh!
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 November 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVYSW8swX5I
Rage Against the Machine - Renegades of Funk
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link