thread for discussion of guitarists i have only heard of because i read guitar magazines in the late 90s

What I don't really get is that the likes of Steely Dan showed a way to incorporate jazz chords, harmony and composition into a coherent whole - many of these guys might not be a Fagen in the songwriting dept, but it seems beyond a lot of these guys to even get a Steely-lite setup going

― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:33 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It just seems like a different, uh, circuit? I mean most of them probably lack either the ability or the desire to write great songs, and a steely-lite band without great songs is kind of pointless. A lot of them have sort of showcase bands and play at a lot of guitar festivals and the like. These bands are super boring. There are some musicians e.g. in fusion that sort of tread the line I guess, and it's hard to say why a Weather Report or Mahavishnu Orchestra record is good vs. like a solo fusion record by a pure guitarists' guitarist, but I guess a lot of it comes down to composition, self-editing, willful effort to create a sound and concept and not just a vehicle, etc.

Also there are a lot of session guys who can play a wonderful solo on, say, a Steely Dan song but can't or don't really focus on putting their own really conceptually sound band together. Some of that may just be a professional or economic choice, i.e. you can make a nice little living playing these guitar shows and festivals and teaching and selling your instructional books and videos and not have to suffer the whims of the music marketplace by trying to make it as an "artist."

there are a lot of session guys who can play a wonderful solo on, say, a Steely Dan song

any many, many more session guys who can spend a day trying to play a solo on a steely dan song, only to have it scrapped a day later, and then made fun of in an "classic albums" episode 25 years later.

Tony Macapline has cancer :(

nice to see the O.G. guitar mag virtuoso crew takes care of their own :)

http://loudwire.com/steve-vai-zakk-wylde-john-5-lead-benefit-for-tony-macalpine/

imagining these guys hearing a conch shell-style summons of two-hand tapping.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/438pam/ama_hey_i_am_john_petrucci_from_dream_theater_ask/

Things like adding MIDI, a direct CabClone, having two graphic EQ's and two lead channels really make this the only Boogie I will ever need.

I just had a very entertaining hour clicking through this thread. I'm friends with a guy who used to be into some of these and used to try and defend Satriani to us ("he's quite tasteful actually, well, compared to Yngwie") but I'm happy to say that he's a Creedence fan now. Had another friend whose sister gave him a present of the G3 Live in Denver DVD (because he played guitar) and we watched it while stoned, which was hilarious for a while, although in the end I was worn down by the sheer quantity of notes.

G3 Live In Denver being a gig featuring Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, and Yngwie Malmsteen, first on their own, and then in a titanic three way display of wank, containing some amazing unintentional moments of hilarity.

Here's Vai being tasteful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8wyKuLY2k

TWO graphic equalizers

so many mids to scoop....so many mids

three necks, two equalizers...

one heart

Ha, I was going to defend the Vai clip until I got to about the 4:25 mark.

holy hell, that one chord he hits on the 12-string is the worst thing ever played on a 12-string by anyone, ever.

Can't deny envying his chops at the same time.

Joe Bonamassa shits all over ZZ Top's "Just Got Paid" for 12(!) minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLl800ezYVY

This seriously almost made me physically ill.

vai's faces are so great, i particularly liked 3:38 - 4:00

Omg dying at vai's obnoxious facial scenes

i just spent like 5 minutes trying to come up with a succinct description of bonamassa's look. i think he looks like he should be wearing an earpiece while guarding the ramp to a luxury yacht.

http://i.imgur.com/Scv5fb6.gif

what's the general consensus in here on wank rock gods like Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen? They were really idolized by guitar magazines in the 90s. Bought 'surfing with the alien' based on how much Satriani was mentioned and gave it away after a week.

Topic: Bonamaglossary

this is something that was started back on March 11, 2004 on the fansite. Since Joe's forum now allows bring thread to the top, I've moved it here. I didn't copy every post however.
There's been some terms that folks have come up with since, please add them if you have them.
some of the previous entries lose a little meaning without the 'smilies' from the other site...
anyway

Mar 11, 04 - 6:33 PM
Bonamaglossary

hope John G. whom I believe is the one who coined the term Bonabaptism finds his way here

Bona(anything)-means its ALL good

Bonabaptism - Your first Bonamassa show, or any show if you sin alot and need to be born again

Johio - that dang blasted state that gets way too much Joe time, unless you live there and then its not enough

Joe-maha Bonabraska - where Garth and MattR live.

the Wing - if you are here, you are under it

Bonamalessons - what you learn at a show or a '03-'04 Blues in the Schools presentation

Bonaddicted - what you sick fans reading this are!!!

hey fix these and/or add your own or one you heard somewhere

Peace,
Joe's most Bonafflicted fan

well Joe is certainly using Bona-seum often on his instagram etc.
like I said its ok because its Joe but its driving me nuts. I prefer Bonamuseum or even Bonamasseum....mumble

Joe Bonamassa shits all over ZZ Top's "Just Got Paid" for 12(!) minutes:

Well, to be fair, during those twelve minutes he also shits all over Whitesnake and Zeppelin.

Bona-useum?

Bona-rrhea: the irreparable psychic damage caused by a Bonabaptism

Bona-drag: when Joe's blues jam drags on for too long, causing all concert attendees to ask, "He's not playing any more, is he?"

http://i.imgur.com/ecCtdZ7.jpg

muddy wolf

That's a lotsa-Bonamassa!

"Black Rock"?

Btw Michael Schenker slicks back his hair and kinda dresses like Bonnamassa now :(

That was at the Barnes and Noble on South Coast over by the John Wayne Airport. I just thought it was a strange sight: in a retail store where they've dialed back shelf stock to the point where the majority of sections on the CD racks are more than half empty —really the only people having more than two CDs in stock are the big names of classic rock (Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc.)— and amongst that, here's this totally inexplicable white blooz guitar wanker with a whole section of a rack to himself.

And, to my memory, his section at the B+N in Huntington Beach is even bigger.

this guy is like the music equivalent of a big dogs t-shirt y/n

Michael Fath, who (based on the one album I have) had amazing chops but no idea whatsoever what to do with them

The rehearsal space I go to practice at has DVDs of all these guys basically running on a loop in the rest area, so you can enjoy some blues noodlin' while you have a cup of tea between sessions.

I conclude from this that the audience for all this kind of stuff is primarily comprised of guitar teachers.

From the Huntington Beach B+N:
http://i.imgur.com/GfG1ky9.jpg

https://youtu.be/JGX5hTomOnw?t=3m48s

I'm afraid too, Steve.

STEVE VAI, RICHIE KOTZEN, NUNO BETTENCOURT, TOM MORELLO Voodoo Chile

My roommate (and one of my best friends) bought this in college and we would watch it regularly

http://i.imgur.com/1rtzXKx.jpg

― 龜, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:35 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

All of this stuff is on youtube now. Went down a Guy Mann-Dude rabbit hole this morning and popped up here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqoSUJwmQvE

haha the beginning sounds like he's playing random notes over a Casio preset

A lot of these guys also fall into the category of "guitarists whose names I know solely because the sound of my guitar teacher's voice pronouncing them still rings in my head. "

I had never heard Gambale before last weekend - he was all over a Chick Corea box set I had to review. He still plays like that.

jesus god look at that effin outfit

the whole thing about how if you go in one direction across the strings you need an odd number of notes and if you are going up and then back across the strings on a "lick" you need an even number of notes was very #galaxybrain

lol.

i enjoy how useless this video is on youtube, can you imagine what it was like on vhs

Lol

Gambale is the Joe Pesci of guitar nerds

Watched this doc Inside Metal: The LA Metal Scene Explodes 2, and there were guys liked Marty Friedman and Bruce Bouillet from Racer X talking about the stir caused on the Strip shredding community when Ron Keel bright Yngwie Malmsteen over to the US to be in Steeler. One anecdote recalled Dokken's George Lynch seeing one of the first Steeler gigs with Yngwie and looking visibly shaken. Everyone was running in fear of the fury!

Harvey Mandel is one of these dudes, a pioneer of two-fingered tapping, does a lot of cool things with sustain. his 70s albums are all totally righteous, though, funky bluesy exotic electric guitar instrumentals..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDHD-jR3xU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWcyNJ_bwhc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_IGj-dTDW8

"cristo redentor" (last vid i posted) is extremely lush