tunnel of love, i mean
― da croupier, Saturday, 5 September 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
think live 75-85 is closer to bruce's new jersey
― balls, Saturday, 5 September 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
haha woah, even with the fact that a 5cd box only has to drop 2m copies to go diamond, i was taken aback by how much that's sold. still don't think he has one (in that tunnel of love would have to be the keep the faith) but i agree that box is closer to being one
― da croupier, Saturday, 5 September 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
was just thinking it reminded me of spirits having flown where the album was a hit and had hit songs but still managed to be a big sales disappointment, retail complaint about overstock.
― balls, Saturday, 5 September 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
that's closer to the Tusk Clause.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 September 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
if you were to have a what artists have a huge event album following a big selling album but sells far less BUT is far more loved critically what else would there be apart from In Utero ?Actually save your answers for a thread on it
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 5 September 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
What acts have had a huge selling album and the follow up sells far less yet is critically favoured by fans and music critics?
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 5 September 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
the trick is to ignore the 1st 4 tracks AND the final 4 which don't really count anyway. it's one of the worst sequenced albums ever.
― piscesx, Saturday, September 5, 2015 2:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I always thought the record was front-loaded, if anything.
Then I saw him do it live last year. I hadn't listened to the album in years (like Al, it's my least favorite of his classic era), and after "I Wish" I thought, ok, probably nap time now. WRONG. Songs I remembered as duds were impossibly thrilling. Maybe it was just a you-had-to-be-there thing, but it made me seriously revise my opinion of the album.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 September 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
Of the stevie albums I have its def my least favourite
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 5 September 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
y'all are mad
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Saturday, 5 September 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
SITKOL is hugely acclaimed and beloved. def his most popular album.
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Saturday, 5 September 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
Yeah this is nuts, he just this year toured stadiums playing the album!
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 September 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link
if you google stevie wonder albums, SITKOL comes up first as "most popular"
― nomar, Sunday, 6 September 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link
did everyone see where i admitted i was basically thinking of one ILX post from a decade ago that merely made me think my sense that it was beloved was mistaken?
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 6 September 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link
parse fail.. Parse fail...
― Mark G, Sunday, 6 September 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link
haha I knew that was a horrendous sentence as I was typing it
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 6 September 2015 13:17 (eight years ago) link
I can't recall if we ever mentioned Carnival Ride by Carrie Underwood. Her debut Some Hearts was 7x platinum, the biggest selling country record of the 00s, and the follow up had one of the biggest first weeks of the decade, but the singles, especially "Last Name" sure felt hollow. It sold 3 million. Next album 2 million. Fourth album less than that.
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link
25, calling this in advance
― The Reverend, Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
the bets start now
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
It seems highly likely, so good call.
― Turrican, Saturday, 7 November 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
ha yeah, good shout. is/was there a stipulation that the first single off a New Jersey is a smash? cause if so..
― piscesx, Saturday, 7 November 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link
"Bad Medicine," "Stuck With You," et al hit #1
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 November 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link
Yeah good call, one because there are so few releases that even feel like "events" anymore and I knew she was big but I didn't know the Internet would go nuts for 24 hours about a new Adele
― Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 7 November 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
Adele's last album was one of those absurd once-in-a-generation runaway success stories that nobody can really hope to repeat. i mean, i'm sure somebody thought Bad was going to somehow outsell Thriller, but once the bar's been set high, it's practically impossible to reach it again. i guess in a decade we'll be able to say if she had a swift, dramatic Alanis-like drop in commercial prominence or a gradual Alicia Keys-like one, but either way, it's pretty hard to sustain that magnitude of success. then again, someone upthread pointed out that Taylor Swift's Speak Now felt a little like a New Jersey, and it really did at the time, but that whole career decline thing sure didn't happen afterwards.
― some dude, Sunday, 8 November 2015 04:20 (eight years ago) link
streaming seems like such a larger part of the marketplace than when 21 came out also, it's very easy to imagine 25 to be in some ways as successful as 21 while not approaching those sales numbers (which no other album in that span has really approached anyway)(i could be wrong there and if i am i'm just gonna guess that i forgot about frozen)
― balls, Sunday, 8 November 2015 04:39 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean...everybody could sour on "Hello" in a couple weeks and hate every other song, and it would still very likely end up being the 2nd-highest selling album of the decade (after 21) just off of preorders and Christmas gifts. streaming has definitely cut into sales now, although it's hard to tell right now whether Billboard's 'album-equivalent units' will end up being the number people refer to by default in the future.
― some dude, Sunday, 8 November 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link
Kind of wondering if Ashanti's Chapter 2 counts as this
― i;m the worst poster e9er (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
Meh, on 2nd thought, Concrete Rose did almost as well; I just dont think I can remember any solo Ashanti songs tbh
― i;m the worst poster e9er (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
views from the six
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link
god I hope so
― Οὖτις, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link
so otm
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
don't think so im afraid
― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link
i literally heard some 20 year olds raving about it/him this morning as i bought coffee
― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
and that anecdote can clearly be extrapolated to all 20 year olds everywhere writ large
So "Hotline Bling" is "You Could Be Mine" to Views' Use Your Illusion.
― Yung Chella (Eazy), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link
no, "Hotline Bling" is definitely his signature song...
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link
yeah it has probably supplanted "The Motto" or whatever as the centerpiece of the Drake segment of I Love The 2010s
― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
does it really count as a part of the album though. it's tacked on at the end & existed for a full year prior right
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
yea it def doesn't. it's a bonus track. views is definitely his new jersey
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
Probably can add Life of Pablo to this
― nazi pugs fuck off (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
^what i was thinking
― dc, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
idk i think a lot of people are stanning for Pablo as AOTY
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
MBDTF was already kanye's new jersey, notwithstanding the brief uptick that was the first half of yeezus
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link
except that like everyone under the age of 22 thinks MBDTF is one of the greatest albums of all time (wtf right??)
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link
one problem (of many) with the "every huge artist has a New Jersey" theory is that some artists are taken more seriously after their commercial peak than Bon fucking Jovi
― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Friday, 13 May 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
I don't trust myself on predicting Drake decline anymore, figured NWTS was gonna be the cultural high-water mark
― nova, Friday, 13 May 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
― flappy bird, Friday, May 13, 2016 2:53 PM
he's like Elvis Costello in the '80s: lots of people will think a new album is his latest masterpiece.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link
And even New Jersey did not immediately present itself as a New Jersey.
― Yung Chella (Eazy), Friday, 13 May 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link
kanye breaks the mold but drake i think fits very comfortably into it, like lady gaga
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 13 May 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link
yeah called it for views from the 6, I would argue that for Kanye it was Twisted Fantasy
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 May 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link