I was surprised at "Rapture"'s absence from the P4k list! Also I never noticed how weird the lyrics to the rap are until recently. I always just remembered the "Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's fly" parts, not the "Man from Mars eating cars" parts.
― drown zoowap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link
that martorialist list is actually listed as "favourite" rather than "best" on the original post
― da croupier, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
saw rapture done at karaoke and those lyrics really are a trip
Back to back, sacroiliacSpineless movement and a wild attackFace to face, sightless solitudeAnd it's finger-poppingTwenty-four hour shopping in rapture
― da croupier, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
Rapture reads to me as a song about over-blown consumerism. At least it's the only way I can interpret those lyrics.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
the "Man from Mars eating cars" parts
That's the only part I remember! It always reminds me of the Saturday Night Live "Rap Street" sketch.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
Maybe the discrepancy for me is because of "The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel"?
― drown zoowap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
Lol everybody trolling themselves talking to Moka
― Hi, my name's David and I quit (wins), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
I'd take "Square Biz" over "Rapture" as far as '81-white girl rap goes.
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link
Lol is true but they clearly have nothing better to do
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
A couple other early-80s rap tracks with original sung hooks, although in both of these they're secondary hooks: "Jam On It"; MC Fosty & Lovin' C - "Radioactive Rapp" (another one that probably didn't influence beyond the West Coast, at least until Snoop jacked its opening wholesale for "2 of Amerika'z Most Wanted", although my contraristan favorite flip of it is Mac Dre/Mac Mall/E-40's "Dredio")
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link
nah they picked the right H&O
― brimstead, Monday, August 24, 2015 10:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
song is played
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Monday, August 24, 2015 10:02 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh no it's played... whatever that means?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link
Great song obv but it's been the Pitchfork-approved H&O song for years -- the same way "In the Air Tonight" and its spare electronics fits with P's ethos.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
which Hall and Oates song did they pick?
― soref, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link
Guess!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link
No can do
― Spottie, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
aw, thought it might have been Method of Modern Love
― soref, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
"billie jean" generates from "i can't go for that" so imo it was the appropriate pick. also that song will never be played for me, still sounds so effortless and packed with tiny melodic ideas
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link
geeta wrote about the apple thing too the other day:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/aug/24/rolling-stones-greatest-songwriters-list-corporate-sponsorship-apple-music
― scott seward, Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:13 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
As someone who helped organize and write the songwriter list from its very beginnings, I can tell you that there was absolutely no editorial input from apple whatsoever, and any connection that geeta/guardian have intuited is based on absolutely nothing
― Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link
curious what one would do apple music linkwise for the beatles, songwriting allowed for lennon and mccartney to be represented separately
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link
ah, see that in the case of prince it goes to the itunes store instead of apple music, guess they could just do that
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link
are their any artists that would plausibly make a pfork/stone canonical list with zero apple presence (music or itunes?) even seger's got some live shit available for apple
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
though i think the concern that apple-branding could hypothetically lead to artists being ignored is valid, considering its breadth of product i also believe in most cases the issue simply wouldn't cone up
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link
come up
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
oddly with prince there's simply no link to apple music on the pfork list but there is a "listen on apple music" link for kate bush's "running up that hill" - which leads to a "not available in us"
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link
First off, Moka is an idiot and no one cares about corny ass "walk this way." It's not even the best song on the album ("Peter piper")
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:47 (eight years ago) link
She's not, be nice.
Also, where's the secondly?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link
First off, deej is an idiot and the best song on the album is "My Adidas"
― Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link
I couldn't follow the Run-DMC argument upthread, but just wanna say that they are the best and Pitchfork's constant campaign to erase them from history will not stand on any internet that I also use
― Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
v chill dude calling women idiots on message boards
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link
(right about "Peter Piper" tho)
who would've imagined this discussion of 80's music on the internet would disintegrate into ad hominem and narcissism of small differences; that we would live to see the day, what will we tell the children, etc
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link
(RUN DMC are dope as fuck btw)
a lurking dmc breathing a sigh of relief at every parenthetical
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:13 (eight years ago) link
I think on this point we all agree.
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
"It's like that" was the 12" that singlehandedly killed old school hip hop in one swipe. Or two--radio stations played both sides of the record. But it's like that was the very first run dmc record and their breakthrough single, beat still sounds fresh today
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link
yeah, but the B-side >
― Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:23 (eight years ago) link
― best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:08 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought Moka was a dude
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:23 (eight years ago) link
you're blind, you can't see
― Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link
also the piece mad about "straight outta Compton" being high on the list is extra stupid
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link
imagine the good "piece" criticizing the choices on a pitchfork list
― Now Dom Go Suggbanizer Way (Why?) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:28 (eight years ago) link
It's too bad that in that one piece of blurb real estate no one directly tackled NWA's sexism, because then it could more accurately reflect every other piece being written about NWA in 2015
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link
that's not even the part i'm mad at, i can understand that critique at least
Because, seriously, nobody thinks ‘Straight Outta Compton’ is a better song than ‘Fuck Tha Police’.
this is a completely insane assertion
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link
it's also insane because ... if that was the case based on his apple music conspiracy theory...either one would being promoting NWA?
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:53 (eight years ago) link
they were closer to 2 live crew than public enemy, he asserts, as if this explains why straight outta compton is inherently and obviously worse than public enemy
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 01:55 (eight years ago) link
Sorry about being an idiot. Just sparking some light conversation.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 27 August 2015 02:04 (eight years ago) link
no apology needed i was just playing standard ilx music slapbox/roughhousing
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link
sorry if i was being hella OTT, it was intended for dramatic effect
i do think 'walk this way' has aged pretty badly
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Thursday, 27 August 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link
always thought it was kind of a shame that walk this way was on raising hell. cuz i never liked it much and that album is so cool.
― scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 02:15 (eight years ago) link
I just played Raising Hell for the first time in 12 years before the power went out and thought, Fuck, that's good this album is.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 August 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link
"imagine the good "piece" criticizing the choices on a pitchfork list"
i totally wrote one! and now they send me money. win/win!
― scott seward, Thursday, 27 August 2015 02:28 (eight years ago) link