pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

yep

also, katherine on "sweet dreams," meaghan on "your love" etc.

Man I'm really suffering from pfork PTSD cuz I skipped the blurbs in a "fool me once, shame on you" way but then everybody's listing specific author names and its like "oh right, I like a bunch of those critics, maybe I should read the blurbs."

Tim f otm about the frustration in people only talking about song choice not writing content when it comes to lists, though sometimes I think sites could do a better job featuring that content over song choice

Didn't expect these to make it, but still sad that they didn't:

'Til Tuesday - "Coming Up Close"
Commodores - "Nightshift"
The Jets - "You Got It All"

Overall I think it's a really good and interesting list. Feel like synth pop/new romantic music isn't represented as much as I'd like. I wasn't expecting Party Fears 2 to be in there (Which is my favourite ever) but it would have been nice to see something by any of these, Duran Duran, Human League, ABC, Soft Cell, OMD, Yazoo, Adam & The Ants, Japan Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Heaven 17, Propaganda, Erasure etc.

admittedly I have only skimmed the list so far, but not because I'm not interested, because it crashes my browser

(so does this thread if I click view all)

I didn't notice it wasn't there, but yeah, thinking of it, Only You is a weird absence. Or perhaps I have a skewed idea due to the recent season of Americans.

Haha, that was a great episode. Love that album.

But also, there's the Mau Maus, a militant fictional rap group named after a real mid-century Puerto Rican gang in Brooklyn,

uhhh

lol

no way, where

daaaamn

nobody edits that Pitch section, is my impression

that's in the "fictional rappers" piece

Much appreciated KSA's precise and pointed work in the 80s list on Sheila E., Shannon, and esp. Janet.

Glad to see "Night Nurse" (and the volume and selection of Jamaican music in general) but Mistry's take seems like a stretch?

I glanced at a couple blurbs and saw something about how Rhythm Nation's relevance is justified because Beyonce dressed in that outfit for Halloween. And then I decided not to read the blurbs.

in the spirit of the 80's, i remixed and edited pitchfork's list. i kept the general spirit of the original list. nothing too weird or obscure. lotsa hits. but now i like it much better! (also, i don't feel like working today...)

200) Prince - “1999”
199) Bow Wow Wow - “I Want Candy”
198) Donald Fagen - “I.G.Y”
197) Peter Gabriel - “Shock The Monkey”
196) Eddie Grant - “Electric Avenue”
195) LL Cool J - “Rock The Bells”
194) Double D & Steinski - “Lesson 1”
193) Kano - “I'm Ready”
192) Bronski Beat - “Smalltown Boy”
191) Yello - “Bostich”
190) Michigan & Smiley - “Diseases”
189) David Bowie - “Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)”
188) ABC - “The Look of Love”
187) Gwen Guthrie - “Padlock”
186) The Clash - “Rock the Casbah”
185) Man Parrish - “Hip Hop Be Bop (Don't Stop)”
184) Wayne Smith - “Under Me Sleng Teng”
183) Loose Joints - “Is It All Over My Face”
182) Strafe - “Set It Off”
181) Eurythmics - “Love Is A Stranger”
180) Frankie Smith - “Double Dutch Bus”
179) Yazoo - “Situation”
178) Tom Petty - “The Waiting”
177) The Pretenders - “Brass in Pocket”
176) Schoolly D - “P.S.K. What Does It Mean”
175) Mantronix - “Bassline”
174) Minor Threat - “Screaming At A Wall”
173) Wipers - “Youth of America”
172) The Go-Betweens - “Cattle and Cane”
171) Malcolm McLaren & The World's Famous Supreme Team - “Buffalo Gals”
170) Cybotron - “Clear”
169) The Chills - “Pink Frost”
168) George Kranz - “Din Daa Daa (Trommeltanz)”
167) Thomas Dolby - “She Blinded Me With Science”
166) George Benson - “Give Me the Night”
165) Inner City - “Good Life”
164) Meat Puppets - “Up On The Sun”
163) The Go-Go's - “Our Lips Our Sealed”
162) XTC - “Senses Working Overtime”
161) U2 - “Sunday Bloody Sunday”
160) Sheila E. - “The Glamorous Life”
159) Digital Underground - “Doowutchyalike”
158) 808 State - “Pacific State”
157) Aztec Camera - “Oblivious”
156) Siouxsie and the Banshees - “Spellbound”
155) A Guy Called Gerald - “Voodoo Ray”
154) Trio - “Da Da Da”
153) Joe Jackson - “Steppin' Out”
152) Galaxie 500 - “Blue Thunder”
151) Dead Kennedys - “Holiday in Cambodia”
150) Beastie Boys - “Paul Revere”
149) Shannon - “Let the Music Play”
148) Junior - “Mama Used To Say”
147) The Blue Nile - “A Walk Across The Rooftops”
146) Simple Minds - “Promised You A Miracle”
145) Liquid Liquid - “Optimo”
144) Big Daddy Kane - “Ain't No Half-Steppin'”
143) Talking Heads - “Burning Down The House”
142) Tears for Fears - “Head Over Heels”
141) Jesus & Mary Chain - “Just Like Honey”
140) B-52s - “Private Idaho”
139) Spacemen 3 - “Walkin' With Jesus”
138) Rob Base / DJ E-Z Rock - “It Takes Two”
137) Mission of Burma - “That's When I Reach for My Revolver”
136) Motörhead - “Ace of Spades”
135) Pixies - “Gigantic”
134) Queen - “Another One Bites The Dust”
133) Fleetwood Mac - “Everywhere”
132) Split Enz - “I Got You”
131) Yellowman - “Nobody Move, Nobody Get Hurt”
130) Phil Collins - “In the Air Tonight”
129) This Mortal Coil - “Song to the Siren”
128) R.E.M. - “Radio Free Europe”
127) Cyndi Lauper - “Girls Just Want to Have Fun”
126) Janet Jackson - “Control”
125) The Replacements - “I Will Dare”
124) Biz Markie - “Nobody Beats The Biz!”
123) Run-D.M.C. - “It's Like That”
122) Grandmaster & Melle Mel - “White Lines (Don't Don't Do It)”
121) Slick Rick / Doug E. Fresh - “La Di Da Di”
120) Rick James - “Give It to Me Baby”
119) Soul II Soul - “Back to Life (However Do You Want Me)”
118) Visage - “Fade To Grey”
117) Rhythim Is Rhythim - “Strings of Life”
116) Adam & The Ants - “Antmusic”
115) The Police - “Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic”
114) Talk Talk - “Life's What You Make It”
113) Dire Straits - “Romeo and Juliet”
112) The Gun Club - “Sex Beat”
111) The Clash - “Should I Stay Or Should I Go”
110) Softcell - “Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go”
109) The Smiths - “This Charming Man”
108) 2 Puerto Ricans, A Blackman, And A Dominican - “Do It Properly”
107) Alan Parsons Project - “Time”
106) Madonna - “Borderline”
105) The Cure - “In Between Days”
104) AC/DC - “You Shook Me All Night Long”
103) Whitney Houston - “Saving All My Love For You”
102) Michael Jackson - “P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)”
101) Grauzone - “Eisbar”
100) The Soft Boys - “I Wanna Destroy You”
99) Donnie Iris - “Ah! Leah!
98) Violent Femmes - “Blister in the Sun”
97) Chaka Khan / Rufus - “Ain't Nobody”
96) Felt - “Primitive Painters”
95) Grace Jones - “Pull Up to the Bumper”
94) Mary Jane Girls - “In My House”
93) Prefab Sprout - “Appetite”
92) Fleetwood Mac - “Gypsy”
91) Expose - “Point Of No Return”
90) Midnight Star - “No Parking (On The Dance Floor)”
89) Man 2 Man Meet Man Parrish - “Male Stripper”
88) Alisha - “Too Turned On”
87) OMD - “Enola Gay”
86) Dead Or Alive - “You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)”
85) Lionel Richie - “All Night Long (All Night)”
84) Slayer - “Angel of Death”
83) My Bloody Valentine - “You Made Me Realise”
82) Tears for Fears - “Everybody Wants to Rule the World”
81) Diana Ross - “Upside Down”
80) Zapp - “Computer Love”
79) Throwing Muses - “Green”
78) The Specials - “Ghost Town”
77) Metallica - “Master of Puppets”
76) Fingers Inc. - “Can You Feel It?”
75) Black Flag - “Rise Above”
74) B-52's - “Give Me Back My Man”
73) Agent Orange - “Bloodstains”
72) Bad Brains - “Pay to Cum”
71) Bruce Springsteen - “Glory Days”
70) Pet Shop Boys - “Opportunities (Let's Make Lots of Money)”
69) Prince - “When You Were Mine”
68) Dominatrix - “Dominatrix Sleeps Tonight”
67) Guns N' Roses - “Sweet Child o' Mine”
66) Altered Images - “I Could Be Happy”
65) Echo & the Bunnymen - “The Killing Moon”
64) David Bowie - “Let's Dance”
63) Stevie Nicks - “Leather and Lace”
62) Art of Noise - “Moments in Love”
61) John Cougar Mellencamp - “Small Town”
60) ESG - “Moody”
59) Depeche Mode - “Just Can't Get Enough”
58) Daryl Hall & John Oates - “I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)”
57) Eric B. & Rakim - “Follow the Leader”
56) Duran Duran - “Girls On Film”
55) New Order - “Ceremony”
54) Roxy Music - “More Than This”
53) Kraftwerk - “Computer Love”
52) The Stone Roses - “I Wanna Be Adored”
51) Bruce Springsteen - “Hungry Heart”
50) Madonna - “Like a Prayer”
49) Neneh Cherry - “Buffalo Stance”
48) Janet Jackson - “When I Think of You”
47) Joy Division - “Atmosphere”
46) Sly Fox - “Let's Go All The Way”
45) De La Soul - “Me, Myself and I”
44) Laurie Anderson - “O Superman (For Massenet)”
43) S-Express - “Theme From S-Express”
42) Eurythmics - “Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)”
41) Guns N' Roses - “Welcome to the Jungle”
40) The Cure - “Close to Me”
39) Information Society - “Walking Away”
38) Salt-n-Pepa - “Push It”
37) Tom Tom Club - “Pleasure of Love”
36) The Chameleons - “Swamp Thing”
35) Sade - “The Sweetest Taboo”
34) Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force - “Planet Rock”
33) Prince and the Revolution - “I Would Die 4 U”
32) N.W.A - “Fuck tha Police”
31) New Edition - “Cool It Now”
30) Commodores - Nightshift”
29) Diana Ross - “I'm Coming Out”
28) Kate Bush - “Running Up That Hill”
27) Janet Jackson - “Love Will Never Do (Without You)”
26) Public Enemy - “Bring the Noise”
25) Animotion - “Obsession”
24) 'Til Tuesday - “Voices Carry”
23) Van Halen - “Jump”
22) Yes - “Owner Of A Lonely Heart”
21) Prince and the Revolution - “I Wish You Heaven”
20) “Bruce Springsteen - “Dancing In The Dark”
19) Eric B. & Rakim - “Paid in Full” / ”Paid in Full (Seven Minutes of Madness Mix)”
18) Marvin Gaye - “Sexual Healing”
17) Madonna - “Into the Groove”
16) The Cars - “Drive”
15) L'Trimm - “Cars With The Boom”
14) Big Black - “Kerosene”
13) Michael Jackson - “Billie Jean”
12) Bauhaus - “She's In Parties”
11) Prince and the Revolution - “When Doves Cry”
10) The Smiths - “How Soon Is Now?”
9) Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - “The Message”
8) Talking Heads - “Once in a Lifetime”
7) Joy Division - “Love Will Tear Us Apart”
6) Freez - “I.O.U.”
5) Bananarama - “Cruel Summer”
4) The Fall – “Cruisers Creek”
3) Company B - “Fascinated”
2) Michael Jackson - “Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'”
1) Wide Boy Awake - “Slang Teacher”

I am having a great time just comparing this 80s list to the 00s list.

spotted some challops in scott's remix - "edge of seventeen" replaced with "leather & lace, "let's dance" left exactly where it was

the inclusion of "hungry heart"

Cruel Summer in it's rightful place.

all in good fun. it's my freestyle edit!

"I Can't Wait" by Nu Shooz should've been on here.

Still no Dead Milkmen.

I mean, everything off of Beelzebubba, but Sri Lanka Sex Hotel in particular is missing.

ooh, good call on nu shooz! I also added They'll Need a Crane; there should be at least a single TMBG cut.
Still room for more plus loads of cleanup for more as we have doubles from The Bangles, Bobby Brown, Chaka Khan, DeBarge, Debbie Deb, Def Leppard, George Michael, The Go Gos, Ice T, Lisa Lisa, Maze, Paul Simon, The Pointer Sisters, The Psychedelic Furs, REM, Stevie Wonder, and Terence Trent D'Arby. And now Dead Milkmen, because i wanted Bitchin' Camaro on there too.

xp wheres "Smoking Banana Peels"

ya forgot to Pass The Dutchie on the left hand side

hitting it at least once more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaCu-EmN4nU

Thank you, Tim F, for saying what I was kind of afraid to say (here and on FB)

big fan of the ET Boogie. one of my favorite 12 inches.

i saw musical youth the day after they were on SNL. they did pass the dutchie twice. thankfully.

I couldn't find a playlist on spotify (I'm sure there must be people who made it into a list already but search function sucks or it takes some time to update). So here's a link, I'm sort of busy so this might take two days but half of the list is there already:

https://open.spotify.com/user/moteldemoka/playlist/491iIVQpdjtGOa8keqt0mP

ha "slang teacher", awesome. thats a jam.

Interesting that R.E.M. only gets one song on the list (and not even top 100 treatment) considering they listed Murmur as a top 5 80s album when they did that list a decade ago. Reflects the exodus of Gen X white dudes I guess.

Ok I actually completed the list already, faster than I though. It's missing all songs from Prince but one, pictures of you, Rhythim Is Rhythim, De La Soul and someone else I can't remember right now.

sorry to be the dick who points this out Moka but it was built yesterday and has 600+ subscribers
http://open.spotify.com/user/norwich5/playlist/5rYtPUau6Aewf3UrsM7r66

"strings of life" is filed under derrick may

xp n/m

My feeling about the aesthetic delineated by the list is that, while it ostensibly reflects a post-poptimist awareness, it's nevertheless iconoclastic in a way I think I genuinely have a hard time relating to at least my own sense of what the poptimist experience is about. Like "Thank goodness there's no 'Come on, Eileen'" is an interesting statement to me. It reminds me of the fact that "Thank goodness there's no 'Come on, Eileen'" could have easily been uttered in an '80s indie culture context. And then I look at this list and, what do you know, I see the Wipers and the Chills and Husker Du and Galaxie 500 and Beat Happening and Spacemen 3 and Mission of Burma and the Pixies and the Minutemen and Nirvana and Nick Cave and Black Flag and Dinosaur Jr. and Bad Brains and Sonic Youth (and a fair number of other things easily integral or peripheral to '80s indie culture as well).

Someone upthread said something about there being no space for an artist like Taylor Dayne on this list. That's interesting, too. Pitchfork writers not happening to be Taylor Dayne fans is, of course, one thing, but I wonder how is it that there's no space for her here. Again, I wonder about my perception of a new iconoclasm and, if that is indeed the case, who's getting left outside the door.

No "Double Dutch Bus" or Jets or New Edition or Debbie Gibson. Just adult music? "White Lines" and "The Message" the only early rap. No pop metal.

double dutch bus was bothering me as something i'd been forgetting.

two things

a) belated thanks to people who brought up my blurbs! finally reading those madonna liner notes growing up came in handy for something

b) my mother's comment when I told her there was a list: "what, no flock of seagulls?"

lol

I'm starting to meet students whose dads were "into Brian Eno in the eighties."

it was built yesterday and has 600+ subscribers

http://media.giphy.com/media/wJ7hpVsjkT3u8/giphy.gif

i was just happy to see Egyptian Lover first thing

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haha apparently I am partially responsible for this bc I played that song for Nate Patrin this spring.

all the dope early 80s dance is the best part of this list imo.

otm

This has caused me to do a fair amount of retro listening over the past day or two and reminded me how much i love Don't Stop the Rock, I Can't Wait, Two of Hearts, Oh Sheila, Jam On It, Pump Up the Volume, Something About You, Crush on You, You Dropped a Bomb on Me, Lookout Weekend, Let It Whip, Feel for You, Sweet Love, etc