pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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when the drummer went out of commission, rather

i realize this is very reductive shorthand, but no one should reach terror level You Think You're So Great about it

da croupier, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 03:24 (ten years ago)

nah they picked the right H&O

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 03:29 (ten years ago)

k i'll allow it.

my case--in the 80s they wrote a bunch of snappy little numbers, in the 90s they were a much more interesting arena band than u2.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 03:29 (ten years ago)

if the problem is "scaredycats" is too dismissive, pretend i said "sensitives" or "liberals" or whatever - i coulda called zep "rem for vikings" on the other side of the coin

da croupier, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 03:30 (ten years ago)

I played a Rickenbacker 360 at Guitar Center a month or so ago and it was like, wow, this is truly a beautiful musical instrument.

timellison, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 03:34 (ten years ago)

It was like two grand or something.

timellison, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 03:34 (ten years ago)

nah they picked the right H&O

― brimstead, Monday, August 24, 2015 10:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

song is played

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 05:02 (ten years ago)

anyway idk why people are mocking the george benson cut when its a certified quincy jones / rod temperton slapper in the vein of 'rock with you' 'stomp' and 'ai no corrida'

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 05:02 (ten years ago)

20 favs that didnt make it

Bananarama: "Cruel Summer"
Marshall Jefferson: "Move Your Body"
Audio Two: "Top Billin'"
Bernard Wright: "Who Do You Love"
Michael Franks: "Lotus Blossom"
Shirley Lites: "Heat You Up"
SOS Band: "Just Be Good to Me"
Prince: I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man
Debarge: "I Like It"
Billy Idol: "Rebel Yell"
Paris: I Choose You
Nick Straker Band: "A Little Bit of Jazz"
Gwen Guthrie: "7th Heaven"
Eric B and Rakim: My Melody
Gypsy Kings: "Bamboleo"
Lil Louis: "French Kiss"
Spoonie Gee: Love Rap
Anita Baker: Sweet Love
Paul Simon: "The Boy In the Bubble"
Cameo: "She's Strange"

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 05:09 (ten years ago)

also, everything on Hotter than July by Stevie Wonder

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 05:10 (ten years ago)

5 more

Keith Sweat: "How Deep Is Your Love"
Alicia Meyers: I Want To Thank You
LL Cool J: "I'm Bad"
Jan Hammer: Crockett's Theme
Regina Belle: "Baby Come To Me"

ok im done

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 05:11 (ten years ago)

Hmm, just noticed they didn't rate Pump Up the Volume by M/A/R/R/S. That's kinda inexplicable.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 05:12 (ten years ago)

loooool yessss

they should have put "pump up the jam" on in honor of this timeless thread: PUMP UP THE VOLUME /V/S/ PUMP UP THE JAM (clearly the p4k staff has read all of ilm's classic threads)

dyl, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 06:33 (ten years ago)

oh hey, i did this (because of course i did)
ILX's 200 Songs of the 80's That Aren't in Pitchfork's Top 200 Songs of the 80's Spotify Playlist
We're only short 60 or so. Make your case.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:07 (ten years ago)

^compiles most everything available on the service that's been mentioned since the list came up, if it wasn't clear

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:08 (ten years ago)

(plus, you know, a number of tracks i wanted on)
been listening to dazz band while compiling this, worth the work

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:11 (ten years ago)

some of my adds include 6'n the mornin, cokane in my brain, when i hear music, always on my mind, 9 to 5

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:18 (ten years ago)

also: africa must be free by 1983, the glamorous life, nightmare on my street, electric avenue

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:20 (ten years ago)

Ace of Spades is on the PF list, btw.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:20 (ten years ago)

(switching out for master of puppets)

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:21 (ten years ago)

or orion actually

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:21 (ten years ago)

also sekoi fali by the bulgarian women's radio choir

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:24 (ten years ago)

aw that hugh mundell is 78 and not 80's till it hit the uk/us so i'll remove on a technicality
so subbing in Byron Lee's "Tiny Winey", the cover of which was an early heterosexual awakening marker
also yellowman's zungguzunngguguzungguzeng because i'm tired and it feels right

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:32 (ten years ago)

Kid Creole & The Coconuts - Stool Pigeon
Junior - Mama Used to Say (original version not on Spotify, just a re-recording)
Marshall Crenshaw - Whenever You're on My Mind

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:37 (ten years ago)

Ready for the World - Oh Sheila

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:42 (ten years ago)

the glamorous life is on the list too

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:49 (ten years ago)

seems lke a dumb exercise imo once ppl just start naming 80s songs but w/e

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 08:50 (ten years ago)

Yeah, I mean I already mentioned the three songs upthread I thought absolutely should've been included (and I'd stan just as hard for "Oh Sheila"), but I guess I'm just contributing good stuff to forks' playlist at this point...which, btw, got me to listen to S.O.S Band for the first time and now they're my new favorite thing.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 09:01 (ten years ago)

never been wild about 'oh sheila', feels like something wrote on a napkin that sheila e rejected & is more hook than song imho

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 09:26 (ten years ago)

something *prince* wrote

mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 09:27 (ten years ago)

it ain't best-of-decade material but it's dope

some dude, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 09:46 (ten years ago)

Why is there no Tom Waits? 80s are his best decade by far.

Apart from Doves Cry would change all Prince songs to SOTT-songs lol

niels, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 10:52 (ten years ago)

Hows about an opinion (positive or negative) on a blurb for a change eh?

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:08 (ten years ago)

no If I Was Your Girlfriend is a genuine 0_o as that's become the hip pick from SOTT era of late in polls and lists.

SOTT at number 3 here too. not sure if ILX has kicked this list around yet in this thread as it's impossible to open/read in full.
http://www.spin.com/2015/05/the-300-best-albums-of-the-past-30-years-1985-2014/5/

piscesx, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:18 (ten years ago)

Hopper's "Gypsy" blurb is great.

also applaud anytime a song was prominently sampled in a post-'80s hit and the blurber managed NOT to mention it.

some dude, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:50 (ten years ago)

I enjoyed deej and Tim F's blurbs quite a bit.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:00 (ten years ago)

thanks alfred, though I will at least try to claim I wasn't fishing for compliments. Comment above more born of frustration that these tentpole features often have really fascinating writing - not just fascinating as in "good" but fascinating as in it tells you about the strengths and weaknesses of modern crit (e.g. see below) - but then all we tend to talk about is whether X song ought to have made the cut. Ultimately I think a much more interesting question is "what do these blurbs say about modern perspectives on the 80s" and etc. Especially when the voting process that leads to the final list makes the actual song choice as meaningless as any other qualitative population sampling.

also applaud anytime a song was prominently sampled in a post-'80s hit and the blurber managed NOT to mention it.

yeah in general I think the "let's connect this with modern stuff and trends" imperative often came across quite hamfisted or even worse ass-backwards (justifying past masterpieces by reference to contemporary stuff that isn't fit so much as to gather up the crumbs from under the table of etc.). That kind of thing can be really interesting in a think piece but it's really hard to pull of successfully in a capsule review. Best case scenario you sound glib.

I didn't do it but I don't think the songs I had to write about lent themselves to the approach anyway.

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:17 (ten years ago)

it's like edm but old

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:31 (ten years ago)

i'm still reading through the blurbs but tim's on "teardrops" is wonderful and so is meaghan garvey's on "how will i know"

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:39 (ten years ago)

I enjoyed Katherine St. Asaph's blurbs, I enjoy her writing on The Singles Jukebox as well.
And for what it's worth, I thought the Madonna picks were spot on-but I suppose her position in the 80s has never been subject to reappraisal.

campreverb, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:44 (ten years ago)

the "how will I know" blurb is so surprisingly dark! I love it.

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:54 (ten years ago)

seems lke a dumb exercise imo once ppl just start naming 80s songs but w/e
― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Tuesday, August 25, 2015

i can only assume you're referring to the pitchfork article here, chickenshit

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:04 (ten years ago)

I can name a lot of 80s songs, but I give them different names and make them sound better.

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:07 (ten years ago)

also really great: douglas wolk on "white lines" and eric on "back to life"

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:11 (ten years ago)

"(the snares sounding like they’ve ricocheted off every building in Minneapolis)" damn tim (re: "saturday love")

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:16 (ten years ago)

with this and Marcello's reappraisal of the first Soul II Soul album a couple weeks ago I've been playing them a lot.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:17 (ten years ago)

deej completely nails "never too much"

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:27 (ten years ago)

yep

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:40 (ten years ago)

also, katherine on "sweet dreams," meaghan on "your love" etc.

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:52 (ten years ago)

Man I'm really suffering from pfork PTSD cuz I skipped the blurbs in a "fool me once, shame on you" way but then everybody's listing specific author names and its like "oh right, I like a bunch of those critics, maybe I should read the blurbs."

da croupier, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 14:25 (ten years ago)


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