Carly Rae Jepsen • Kiss

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the thing is, people have been given the chance. by and large, they don't.

wtf are we caring about album sales for again? when the album is deadddddfdfdd11!!!!11eleven!!11!

im actually curious how she'll fare once streams are factored in, even though streaming-equivalent albums are a high bar to vault over

streams only effect album chart position if there's a giant single (i.e. the only reason Mark Ronson's album charted well for many weeks)

Tim smacking one lips is a metaphor for being GLAD about something, no reason to defend wishing the album was bigger

lol at this album being on track to do sky ferreira numbers when all is said and done. next stop: top 10 placement on the pitchfork readers' poll's "most overrated album of 2015" list! (i am jk here, all you have to do to make that list is be a woman and have your album reviewed semi-favorably on the site.)

i like all the album's songs! but i feel like the sequencing might be off? idk, as a front-to-back listen it's not quite as life-changingly excellent as i was hoping it would be based on the songs that i'd heard pre-release. but maybe my impressions will change as i spend more time with it.

also why does she have a hint of a british accent on 2/3 of the singles

cause she's from BRITISH columbia

Also for context, this was the next tweet:

‏@chartnews Aug 22
US chart preview (sales only) - debuts: @Disturbed 70-75k | @KipMooreMusic 30-35k | @BonJovi, @GhostBcOfficial 22-25k | @NRateliff 18-21k.

there were way more ppl in line for ghost at rough trade than crj

fuckin ghost

the Ghost record rules

Ghost + CRJ oughta tour together, tbh

imo discussion of sales is healthy

the number of copies an album sells often has very little to do with the album's quality but pitchfork scores have even less to do with it and people talk about those all the time

so discuss

part of my disdain for using weak album sales to undermine enthusiasm for pop (or pop-aspirant) acts - which shouldn't be mistaken for a disinterest in chart stats by anyone who's seen three posts of mine - is that i have no idea why anyone would buy an mp3 or a new CD in 2015.

(one that is also available on streaming, at leasT)

yeah as an indicator of even a crude baseline popularity contest, albums just aren't the primary unity of measure any more (particularly CRJ's audience)

as a measure of "how popular is this collection of songs among the people who buy full mp3 albums and/or CDs" it's right on the money i guess

would like to see a "how many streaming playlists does this album's songs appear in" chart

if someone was shrieking that enjoying crj means one is in touch with the youth and the streets i would understand pointing out the lack of popular groundswell in her numbers but personally i've yet to see that shriek. but personally for a near-one-hit wonder with a critical cult making nu-cathy dennis, i think her numbers aren't particularly noteworthy positively or negatively

iirc the radio airplay and performance stats for all of CRJ's singles have been mediocre. streaming playlists aren't perfect because if there's any editorial oversight or influence, well, you can see how they might want to have her stick around more.

and people are -- I don't know if I want to call it "shrieking" but surely saying a whole lot of things about how the album is universally relatable or whatnot, and when you look at how actual listeners are responding, this simply isn't true. (nor is it true, really, for anyone.)

universally relatable usually means "relatable to me."

is there a good example of that kind of hyperventilating offhand? i stop searching for over-the-top praise in music reviews after ending the shinsblog

album sales are of interest w/r/t crj bc after i really like you didn't perform, her team did an about-face in the press trying to shift focus from the question of whether or not she could pull off another call me maybe to whether or not the album would be "critically acclaimed"

very rarely do you see someone with as many resources as CRJ make such a direct play for the robyn demo of adult fans of thinking person's pop-not-popular music, so it's hard to imagine a better case study to determine how big that audience actually is

it shouldn't undermine anyone's enthusiasm to learn that the answer to that question is "about half the size of earl sweatshirt's audience" but it's interesting to know

weird how Robyn is the benchmark because Robyn hasn't meant shit in album/singles sales in the U.S. since her Max Martin days.

like, lol, she's streaming and selling Robyn levels despite "Call Me Maybe" outselling and outstreaming "Show Me Love."

i would just like to reaffirm my initially raspberry followed the stat being joined with a lol gif, not the stat

initial raspberry, rather

tbf most top 40 singles released this decade have outstreamed "show me love"

good album

would like to see a "how many streaming playlists does this album's songs appear in" chart

billboard has shifted the methodology to its album chart so that before long, as album sales continue to go down the toilet, the chart will essentially become this

funny you all should mention robyn!

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6670488/robyn-top-dance-electronic-albums-chart

Robyn scores her second No. 1 on Billboard's Top Dance/Electronic Albums chart (dated Aug. 29) with EP Love Is Free from La Bagatelle Magique (Robyn, keyboardist Markus Jagerstedt and late producer Christian Falk). The set, completed after Falk's death in 2014, opens atop the chart with 2,000 units, according to Nielsen Music.

(that's from this past week)

:D

the thing is, people have been given the chance. by and large, they don't.

I'm not sure I know anybody who's heard any of it except for ilxors and my thirteen year old daughter and one woman that I work with who I'm guessing is in her early twenties, both of whom have told me they heard "I Really Like You" somewhere.

croup sorry i missed your point earlier

american top 40 radio is an impenetrable fortress that generally only opens for artists with gigantic budgets and a deep rolodex

she got on there with i really like you and it didn't work

between that and the massive release week press campaign, people definitely got a chance to make up their minds

Gotta say the praise culled by metacritic was relatively measured, of the b+ variety. Not saying people aren't waxing painfully rhapsodic - lord knows plenty of those reviews refer to massive hype - but I'd still love a link to someone begging for a corrective

what was the 'strawman' of the early oughts is 'the people i follow on twitter' today

Dude it was verrry easy to find overzealous reviews of albums in the aughts, trust me

she got on there with i really like you and it didn't work

I must have missed it. Radio hits are stylistically all over the place enough that I could quite easily see how it could work, I think.

good for you

Yeah, I guess. I don't know why you're insulted by my disagreeing with you, but I apologize if I could have phrased it more nicely.

Actually I won't qualify that with an "if" - I do apologize.

as much as it sucks to admit it, another point against CRJ is that she probably doesn't qualify for on the verge

hard to market someone as 'on the verge' when they've already had one of the biggest hits basically ever a few years ago

that promo doesn't always turn the pop format selections into hits anyway -- i actually kinda like when it doesn't

yes, that was in fact what I was getting at

sorry

nah it's cool

so is "Black Heart" the song of the year or

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)) wrote this at 2015-08-23 15:53:36.000

Yeah this song makes me feel like I'm in a tj maxx commercial on very good acid.

so many songs that didn't initially stick out are complete earworms

like this week it's I Didn't Just Come Here To Dance

the numbers on emotion are pretty interesting. it debuted at #16, but songs from it were streamed 1m more times than the disturbed record, which was this week's #1 (it was mid30s in streams overall, near fall out boy and a couple of other pop megastar types).