Carly Rae Jepsen • Kiss

I'm hoping that the fact Charli XCX's Sucker still got a vinyl release (Four months after the CD!) means that this will still happen. She seems pretty excited to get it out there on vinyl.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/carly-rae-jepsen-emotion-interview/

don't look at me I bought the record twice

US chart preview (sales only) - debut: @carlyraejepsen 12-15k.

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remember when pavement came out and a cult of critic types acted like pavement were a big deal and then when crooked rain came out people were like "lol it debuted at #121, obv pavement is not a big deal, you fools"

lest anyone think i'm suggesting crj = pavement, what i'm suggesting is that people who are smacking their lips over the failure of a critical fave to storm the chart are more-popist-than-popist weirdos.

what's pavement

a band some people pretended was worth hearing, despite the fact that it took four albums for them to make the top 100

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the hot 100 is the singles chart, the albums chart is the top 200

and you should be proud to know that, i do too, hence my referring to the top 100 and not the hot 100

for context, the #21 album last week sold 11k in pure album sales

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6671156/billboard-200-chart-moves-katy-perry-teenage-dream

isnt the point of the lolz that ppl thought this was something more than a crit phenom

a band some people pretended was worth hearing, despite the fact that it took four albums for them to make the top 100

― da croupier, Sunday, August 23, 2015 6:19 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whether pavement ever broke the top 100 or not was not the reason they weren't worth hearing

i'm all for spiting disgusting pernicious pure pop creeps 24/7 but i think it's fair to also want to see this lp get a merited fair shake on its own terms at the same time

i liked katherine's tumblr point about the just pure sonic thrills of it. seems obv but it's also the simple thing no one ever gets round to saying

my fave for this is prob 'la hallucinations', lyrically ur braced for typischer rechtshaidung but then u get served this absurdist fizzing clanking whirring fluoro soundscape that makes it seem as if she and her erstwhile bff had originally travelled to the west coast to pilot giant robots and battle sea monsters pacific rim style

the beats have always been the biggest selling point imo

nah

oh yeah -- it's what grabbed me about "I Really" and the album in June ("Warm Blood," "Making the Most of the Night" especially).

isnt the point of the lolz that ppl thought this was something more than a crit phenom

― mods = chickenshit idiots (D-40), Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:54 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well it IS more than a crit phenom in that the album will likely debut in the top 20, despite album sales (streams not included) that look piddly if you're not aware how few albums you have to sell to make the top 20. but are there any "ppl" who banked their acclaim for this album on its likely commercial weight? the lolz seem dependent on that strawman AND not realizing how lol sales are in general these days.

whether pavement ever broke the top 100 or not was not the reason they weren't worth hearing

― lex pretend, Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:03 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know if you missed my sarcasm, or just wanted a chance to say "pavement sucks" regardless of it, but i was trying to call out how absurd it would be to try to dismiss people's enthusiasm for music based on it failing to inspire commercial beatlemania.

pretty sure lex wanted a chance to say "Pavement sucks."

no, i was just rolling my eyes at the constant fretting about chart positions! (plus, pavement suck.)

my fave for this is prob 'la hallucinations', lyrically ur braced for typischer rechtshaidung but then u get served this absurdist fizzing clanking whirring fluoro soundscape that makes it seem as if she and her erstwhile bff had originally travelled to the west coast to pilot giant robots and battle sea monsters pacific rim style

i've been listening to this song on repeat since friday

am i the only one who hears "cry me a river" in the evil little mincing synth figure?

so is "Black Heart" the song of the year or

people who are smacking their lips over the failure of a critical fave to storm the chart are more-popist-than-popist weirdos.

For me, it's just like wanting to hear it on the radio and stuff.

Same thing with lex's comment about people having an interest in chart positions.

Well, and now that I think about it, wanting people to like it too because I think they might if given the chance.

And it's fun to share things in common with people.

the thing is, people have been given the chance. by and large, they don't.

wtf are we caring about album sales for again? when the album is deadddddfdfdd11!!!!11eleven!!11!

im actually curious how she'll fare once streams are factored in, even though streaming-equivalent albums are a high bar to vault over

streams only effect album chart position if there's a giant single (i.e. the only reason Mark Ronson's album charted well for many weeks)

Tim smacking one lips is a metaphor for being GLAD about something, no reason to defend wishing the album was bigger

lol at this album being on track to do sky ferreira numbers when all is said and done. next stop: top 10 placement on the pitchfork readers' poll's "most overrated album of 2015" list! (i am jk here, all you have to do to make that list is be a woman and have your album reviewed semi-favorably on the site.)

i like all the album's songs! but i feel like the sequencing might be off? idk, as a front-to-back listen it's not quite as life-changingly excellent as i was hoping it would be based on the songs that i'd heard pre-release. but maybe my impressions will change as i spend more time with it.

also why does she have a hint of a british accent on 2/3 of the singles

cause she's from BRITISH columbia

Also for context, this was the next tweet:

‏@chartnews Aug 22
US chart preview (sales only) - debuts: @Disturbed 70-75k | @KipMooreMusic 30-35k | @BonJovi, @GhostBcOfficial 22-25k | @NRateliff 18-21k.

there were way more ppl in line for ghost at rough trade than crj

fuckin ghost

the Ghost record rules

Ghost + CRJ oughta tour together, tbh

imo discussion of sales is healthy

the number of copies an album sells often has very little to do with the album's quality but pitchfork scores have even less to do with it and people talk about those all the time

so discuss

part of my disdain for using weak album sales to undermine enthusiasm for pop (or pop-aspirant) acts - which shouldn't be mistaken for a disinterest in chart stats by anyone who's seen three posts of mine - is that i have no idea why anyone would buy an mp3 or a new CD in 2015.

(one that is also available on streaming, at leasT)

yeah as an indicator of even a crude baseline popularity contest, albums just aren't the primary unity of measure any more (particularly CRJ's audience)

as a measure of "how popular is this collection of songs among the people who buy full mp3 albums and/or CDs" it's right on the money i guess

would like to see a "how many streaming playlists does this album's songs appear in" chart

if someone was shrieking that enjoying crj means one is in touch with the youth and the streets i would understand pointing out the lack of popular groundswell in her numbers but personally i've yet to see that shriek. but personally for a near-one-hit wonder with a critical cult making nu-cathy dennis, i think her numbers aren't particularly noteworthy positively or negatively

iirc the radio airplay and performance stats for all of CRJ's singles have been mediocre. streaming playlists aren't perfect because if there's any editorial oversight or influence, well, you can see how they might want to have her stick around more.

and people are -- I don't know if I want to call it "shrieking" but surely saying a whole lot of things about how the album is universally relatable or whatnot, and when you look at how actual listeners are responding, this simply isn't true. (nor is it true, really, for anyone.)

universally relatable usually means "relatable to me."

is there a good example of that kind of hyperventilating offhand? i stop searching for over-the-top praise in music reviews after ending the shinsblog