Acclaimed Music Top 30 Albums from 1997 poll

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beep beep who got the keys to the jeep

brimstead, Friday, 14 August 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

I enjoy it as a rock album by a band who could sincerely be mistaken as speakers of English as a second language ('Magic Pie', indeed).

― Grilled Floam In A Gak Reduction (Old Lunch), Friday, August 14, 2015 7:23 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Worst/most cringeworthy lyric on Oasis' 'Be Here Now'

Can anyone explain the appeal of Spiritualized to me? I've given them a go a number of times over the years and always found them crushingly dull.

― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:56 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

have you heard the first album, Lazer Guided Melodies? the sound is much more dreamy and zonked out than their other records. the production is really slick and shimmerry. and the songs are catchier.

brimstead, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

plus j spaceman's voice tends to be either bathed in fx or low in the mix (if his voice bothers you)

brimstead, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i'd agree with that. if you're not a fan of spiritualized from "ladies and gentlemen..." on, you should give lazer guided melodies (and some of pure phase) a chance because it's quite different.

1993 ball boy (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 August 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

me and my girl missy gettin pissy up in bennigan's
makin all you other rappers begin again
like finnegan
christians repent and then sin again

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 14 August 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

imago how do you think this list was constructed and what do you think the intent was behind the methodology?

― balls, Friday, August 14, 2015 7:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's some RYM-type deal isn't it, the intent being to allow people to rank their favourite albums on a big website, which is fine for many purposes tbh

Pure Phase is sooooo the best Spz album

imago, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

another nudge for david holmes.

listened to the album last week, and heard it afresh all over again.

mark e, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

but could have easily voted for 8 of the other albums ..

mark e, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

t's some RYM-type deal isn't it, the intent being to allow people to rank their favourite albums on a big website, which is fine for many purposes tbh

no

balls, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Diminishing returns from Spiritualized, imo. Best thing about 'Ladies & Gents...' was the medicine-style packaging.

Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 14 August 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link

Franzon has statistically aggregated hundreds of published lists that rank songs and albums into aggregated rankings by year, decade and all-time.

ahahaha christ, ok, this is almost perfectly inimical to how i approach music listening. i'm out

imago, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

the only conceivable positive purpose this list has, and i'm sure the intent, is to see which music has been acclaimed and to chart the critical consensus - to construct an image of the canon if not the canon itself. but i'm being very charitable there

imago, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

o it's definitely some nerd shit. it's kinda useful as a warehouse of various crit lists, etc over the years. the overall consensus arrived at is kinda dull (rateyrmusic is probably more interesting in a way)(in the same way that imdb's top movies list is more interesting than afi's) but still it's more 'o right these are the big crit list faves of that year'. it's been kinda interesting to me w/ the 90s is the relative dearth of hip hop beyond the token obv choices. not quite as outrageous to me but there's also been a noticeable dearth of metal on these lists. hip-hop does better at getting token spots on trad rock pub lists than metal but metal i think has more publications and a longer history of publications adding inputs. something like country which very rarely gets acknowledged on trad rock pub lists and doesn't have a ton of publications devoted to it doing this kind of canonizing gets shafted even more.

balls, Friday, 14 August 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

This may be deeply uncool to admit, but I think 1997 was kind of a high watermark year for modern rock radio. As overplayed as they are, I'd rather listen to a well curated mix-tape of Wallflowers, Smash Mouth, Third Eye Blind, Sublime, OMC, Green Day, etc.. hits from this year that most of the albums listed above. I guess Blur, Verge and Supergrass from the list above were kind of in that style - for some reason Britpop got a bit more critical respect than the US post-grunge stuff.

o. nate, Friday, 14 August 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

Catherine Wheel - Adam And Eve <<<the best American indie-rock album of this year by a British band, obv

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Friday, 14 August 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

'97 is also the year of Teenage Fanclub's best album

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Friday, 14 August 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

no

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 14 August 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

(grand prix or bandwagonesque imo)

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Friday, 14 August 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

jim otm

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 14 August 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

This is an easy one for me as Homogenic is my favourite album of the 90s. In It For The Money would be a close second.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 15 August 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link

So many people mentioning Homogenic... I love the record, and it's my favourite Bjork album by far, but if it tops this poll I'll be very surprised, even though I'd be pleased to see anything beat OK Computer for a change.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 15 August 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

My top ten, roughly in order:

Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One
Björk - Homogenic
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
Erykah Badu - Baduizm
Primal Scream - Vanishing Point
Supergrass - In It for the Money
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space
Elliott Smith - Either/Or
The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
Cornershop - When I Was Born for the 7th Time

Grilled Floam In A Gak Reduction (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 August 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link

great list imago, discovered a few things i already like.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 15 August 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

i think the most surprising thing about this thread is that no one has said they are voting for Homework. this is ILM right?

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 August 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

Voted Missy.
Probably listened to "Welcome to our World" more than anything else though.
Imperfect album, but the production and Static's vocal arrangements were amazing.

mr.raffles, Sunday, 16 August 2015 05:04 (eight years ago) link

1997's critical consensus was... underwhelming. maybe it's just where we're at in time, maybe in ten years all these records will sound really brilliant to me again, but i find there are very few records less interesting to me than the critically acclaimed records of twenty years ago.

never heard "sizzla", though. any good?

rushomancy, Sunday, 16 August 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

Try the most critically acclaimed films of 20 years ago.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Sunday, 16 August 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

I just think Discovery is Daft Punk's crowning glory. I love some of the singles off Homework but to me it feels more like a collection of 12"s than an album I'd want to listen to all the way through.
Then again, I heard Discovery first so that may have biased me.

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Sunday, 16 August 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

I'd have voted for Prolapse's "Italian Flag" if it were here. Same for Memphis synthers the Clears' self-titled (would be an interesting alternate universe). But "Lonesome Crowded West" was my life for a while, and in the absence of those others I can't not vote for it.

For some other off-listers, thank you ILXors for reminding me of Fantasma and Polydistortion. Drugs A. Money's list looks nice too; my droney DAM-esque picks for '97 wd be Hash Jar Tempo "Well Oiled" and the Azusa Plane's "Tycho Magnetic Anomaly". And, oh shit, ciderpress OTM, The Ballasted Orchestra.

Homogenic and (bits of) the YLT and BTS are p gr8 too but nobody needed reminding of that. Screw New Forms; d&b was never really an album genre but if I had to pick a couple from '97 they'd be Modus Operandi and The Prototype Years.

xp i love the track on Orblivion with the Scouser going on about Beelzebub

SALT. Sample of David Thewlis in "Naked" iirc. I sold the album at one point cz I was all "bah, it only has two good tracks on it" (SALT and Toxygene), but it turned out that I missed those two tracks so much I bought it back again.

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 16 August 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

yeah not super into "kundun" or "the ice storm" either

rushomancy, Sunday, 16 August 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 17 August 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

imago otm itt

rip van wanko, Monday, 17 August 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

'97 is also the year of Teenage Fanclub's best album

― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Friday, August 14, 2015 2:40 PM (2 days ago)

agree with this, and I voted for Grand Prix in the '95 poll...

that said, even if it were here I couldn't vote for Songs from Northern Britain over Lonesome Crowded West or Perfect From Now On.

alpine static, Monday, 17 August 2015 04:40 (eight years ago) link

Just bought Polydistortion on CD for a massive £1.57.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 17 August 2015 08:08 (eight years ago) link

Money very well spent.

Grilled Floam In A Gak Reduction (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link

every Gus Gus album (except for Forever) is great to to outstanding

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 17 August 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

the Top 2 is right and big surprise at number 3. i'm a bit disappointing that In It for the Money and Vanishing Point got no votes.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Wow, totally didn't see that coming!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Having said that, not a lot of votes between Homogenic and OK Computer!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:20 (eight years ago) link

Most of the albums that received zero votes are quite good. I expect Erykah to do muuuuch better in the 2000 poll (and I might even preemptively declare that as my vote).

Profound Perspectives (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link

Polls make you look really ugly.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

to the 5 others who went YLT: i love you.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

Thanks 23 voters for proving imago right.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

nope

Bee OK, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link

1997 was also the peak of the '90s alt-country boom: Whiskeytown, Old 97s, Robbie Fulks, Steve Earle, The Derailers, The Bottle Rockets, Richard Buckner, Slobberbone, Blue Mountain, 6 String Drag, Neko Case ... all put out terrific albums.

alpine static, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link

Voted Spice world

Leonard Pine, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 09:37 (eight years ago) link

voted OK C because it's what the thread deserves

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link

Zaireeka didn't get a single goddamn vote?!?!

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link


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