― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Sunday, 23 January 2005 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 23 January 2005 09:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 23 January 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 23 January 2005 09:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 23 January 2005 09:58 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't know about England, but it's regarded pretty much over here.
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Sunday, 23 January 2005 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link
And he fails to mention New Order anywhere in the entire article? Compares LCD Soundsystem to PJ Harvey & Pavement? I'm sure people have burned in hell for less.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 23 January 2005 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stevem On X (blueski), Sunday, 23 January 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Rex the Dog!
― JoB (JoB), Sunday, 23 January 2005 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I thought the article was much better than most of the articles on this topic have been, though as per usual at times the "signs of life" can seem to take on a disproportionate level of importance. The Tiefschwarz mention is alright because Tiefschwarz are flagbearers for what is currently the biggest sound in dance music, but I would have considered "breakcore" to be marginal at best. Actually I'm glad that he grouped Tiefschwarz and LCD Soundsystem together because I think it's useful to compare the two groups' similarities and differences.
Although had he actually talked about electroclash it might have been pertinent to note (and this is where Ronan's point comes in) how Tiefschwarz take the electro framework and reinvest it with a ravey actual-dance-music energy (hence electroclash having saved dance music while still being "over" - it's like a "vanishing mediator", or is that vanishing antithesis?).
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 January 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm guessing it's a response to jaymc's comment.
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 23 January 2005 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Ronan totally OTM.
That's why this
In fact, some North American D.J.'s and producers like Richie Hawtin have moved to Germany because the climate for electronic music is more supportive
is basically the whole story. Maybe Simon needs to move to Cologne? ;)Said it in another thread some time ago but dance here is seeing an influx of young people. And this year Dance Valley is probably going to become a three-day festival, so in rockspeak were actually getting into 1969/ the Woodstock phase. :) Now where are The Stooges?
― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 23 January 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― bugged out, Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
and disco nihilist otm.
― it's tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link
If you're thinking about the mainstream (in the US) and why dance is not as popular (anymore), then you have to look at how the public generally tends to listen/view artists: They want a *face* something which isn't as prevalent in dance.
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
actually, DYOH debuted at no. 14 and went gold half a year later. Not bad at all, but the "teeming throngs" line feels a bit facetious, especially since they've released two albums since then have each done worse than that.
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― it's tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 23 January 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
She's right. (Google "lenny bruce," "vaughn meader" and "kennedy" together to get a fuller explanation.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 January 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, when were prodigy and fatboy slim hip on the real dancefloors? never. its all about the singles and compilation mix albums in the REAL danceculture. the culture that brings money to the table, the 'kids'
They aren't waiting on a new Daft Punk either, they just want Dave Clarke to put out a new mix album.
― Rizz (Rizz), Sunday, 23 January 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Or Kiss?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rizz (Rizz), Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Screw that, we're talking about dancing and having fun, and that's NOT Moby these days. What we need is a picture of Altern 8:
http://www.trancentral.ru/pix00/10_misc/altern8.jpg
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 23 January 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.yegor.com/Music/moby-7.jpg
see? Lookee!
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 23 January 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
In the UK in the 90s there were dance #1s coming out on a fucking conveyer belt. The big problem is that most of them were rubbish.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 23 January 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Blightersrock (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 23 January 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
*or is it Rest of World?
― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 23 January 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― bugged out, Sunday, 23 January 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― bugged out, Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Laurent Garnier is presenting the 6 Mix show on 6 Music, NOW ! 8pm - 10 pm
Sunday 23 JanuaryInfluential European DJ figurehead Garnier enjoyed a previous life as a restaurant manager, then footman at the French Embassy ...
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
I think this is true about much of ILM
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Maybe he should have mentioned Waltzes as well. I mean, okay, Britney Spears makes Dance Pop. You can dance to Rock. If it has a beat, you can dance to it. But he's talking about Dance - from Chem Bros to Kompakt. I mean, this is an article not about him (and what music he likes) but about the state of Dance music in the US.
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― fatfreddy, Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
xxpost - history is written by the "winners"
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
That's right, we're stopping you from dancing to any records except electronic ones, with physical force.
And fuck the barely concealed contempt in the you can dance to all sorts of music too whining
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 23 January 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link