Great record, terrible drummer

Michael Clarke of the Byrds was pretty sloppy. But those Byrds records are great despite it/because of it? I'm not sure and you know, I don't really care.

Whoa whoa whoa. I've learned to ignore most of the Radiohead bashing on ILM but you CANNOT be serious.

well, not exactly. they became Mover.

Colm's drumming makes that album, though.

Either Led Zeppelin 4 or Who's Next -- two albums that were amazing despite the substandard, damn-near-embarrassing drumming.

I've always been bothered by the all-over drumming on Jimi Hendrix albums, especially "Crosstown Traffic."

Radiohead to thread.

Neil Peart...

it's Buddy Miles' singing that I have problems with.

I don't think much of Keith Moon as a "drummer"

"Radiohead to thread."

WTF?!

I also agree with Sundar re: Keith Moon and John Bonham.

2. The Buckpets!!!!!!! Wow! I saw them open for Jane's Addiction once about 15 years ago, and I haven't thought about them since. Come to think of it, their song "Pearls" was kind of decent. I think I have their cassette buried in a box somewhere.

Yes, hilarious. But seriously, I never liked the Meat Puppets' drummer, he always seemed kind of a boring player compared to the Kirkwood boys.

the kingsmen's "louie, louie" owns this thread

My favourite drumming on a record ever!!!!!!!!!!

well, not exactly. they became Mover

ooh! did mover have a proper drummer?

Yup, White Stripes certainly count, too.

-- Dadaismus

FANTASTIC performance on the drums during the gtr solo! Reminds me of Drumbo from Beefheart's Magic Band. Practically avant-garde!

no way. ac/dc are the count basie orchestra, and phil rudd is jo jones.

(Same goes for "Be Here Now", which is a considerably less great album than "Morning Glory" though)

Also, "Crocodiles" by Echo & The Bunnymen (Echo was never an impressive drummer)

Nick Mason also dragged Pink Floyd down a few notches. He's a
solid timekeeper, so I have to give him that. But he's so limited,
so lacking in imagination. Maybe he was too busy hanging out at
the pub to learn a few fills, or a drum roll (there are none, except
for one track on the first album). I think he definitely dragged
the band down. Imagine what kind of exciting dynamic they could have
had with a imaginative drummer like Bill Bruford, John Bonham or Phil Collins.

Dream Syndicate and the Rain Parade could have been gods with
a great drummer.

Rain Parade - I really liked the guy who played on Emergency Third Rail Power Trip - Eddie Kalwa, was it? He has a good feel on tracks like This Can't Be Today and Talking In my Sleep.

Also he paid for/produced great records by Robert Wyatt, Lol Coxhill, Carla Bley etc. so I'll hear no ill spoken of him.

Of course, or else they would have fired him from the band much
earlier. The real question is, why did Pink Floyd require a
shitty drummer? Why didn't they demand a good drummer? Cause I've
only been playing drums for two years and I can play better than
Nick Mason.

_Fictitious Sports_ was good, though, I have to give props.
Better than most Floyd records, actually.

No, because he is very good at what he does.

Learning to beatmatch jungle wrought havoc on my enjoyment of live drummers. A recent Franz Ferdinand show springs to mind as one example where the tempos vacillated all over the place, within the same song, and not in some loose retro-hipster perfect-for-the -song fashion. Just in a youthful, unskilled, 'where did the tempo' go fashion. Ugh.

Most drummers who love Radiohead will still probably agree that the drumming is the weakest link. Which is not to say that he doesn't do a fine job, given the requirements of the band.

I will not tolerate any dissing of Mason here.

First of all, that video is from the Live At Pompeii movie and Mason himself bashes his performance on it because midway through, he loses a stick (additionally the movie crew lost the film reels of Gilmour, Waters, and Wright for that track and so all you see of "One Of These Days" is him losing the stick)

Anyway, Mason is exactly the drummer that PF needed - my proof is any live recording from the 1975 tour, especially the end of "Raving And Drooling"

i'll mention him; he used to be (circa '87-'90) absolutely terrifying. i saw sy three times in 1990, and each one he was totally channelling keith moon. ever since then he plays like someone dosed him with quaaludes. i can't think of a more dramatic example of a once-great drummer falling so far (not even moon himself).

Not me!

besides, drumming has changed over the years. it's become a bit more minimal. as much as i love keith moon or bonham, would they really sound right backing sufjan stevens, animal collective or the
microphones?