TOOL - C/D!?

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I'm still Team Opiate EP & Undertow, although Lateralus and Aenima are great. I have no recollection of anything on 10,000 Days

I remember loving Aenima and being really disappointed at how dull and humourless Lateralus was by comparison

that was a common reaction. but i think 10,000 days tried to reemploy their sense of humor to their new knottier, proggier song structures, and the effect is even duller

I've only heard 10,000 Days once and wasn't impressed but it probably deserves another listen or too. I like the early stuff OK but Aenima and Lateralus are what I love Tool for.

Yeah Aenima seemed to hit the right spot and it was my intro to the band. Lateralus (IIRC) came out just as nu-metal was starting to saturate the market, and I remember the production being very much a part of that ilk, as in nu-metal filtered through prog structures. Aenima, to me, had more in common with industrial music; stuff like Ministry etc. I've not heard any other Tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_SG41-MKTc

you're welcome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwWucCZpLg

you're still welcome

i revisited the tool catalog this weekend and tbh i don't like a lot of opiate and undertow at this point in my life

this point in your life totally sucks IMO

I mean, "Sober" and "Swamp Song" and "Intolerance" still super rule, is what I'm trying to convey here

Opiate, Undertow, Aenima and Lateralus are all great, 10,000 Days still sucks.

xp: also "Undertow" and "4 Degrees" btw

those are my two favorite tracks on the record

I'm with DJP when it comes to Tool, things went way downhill when they got that bass player who plays writes them awful pedal note sections where he plays too many open strings with a ton of phasing or flanging, bleargh.

I can do without an awful lot of Tool from all of their eras. I feel like there's so much filler there. But I'll listen to Opiate til I die.

I am being reminded right now of how much I enjoy "Eulogy" on Aenima

https://vimeo.com/167665228 - they apparently played a new song during their last tour (Nov/Dec 2015) called Descending?

It's been over a decade now, christ. I used to love this band and they were very formative for my tastes, I still like them but all enthusiasm for anything new has evaporated. I'll still listen to a new album when it does eventually appear though.

While listening to aenima now I keep thinking, cheer up dude! Still great riffs though.

Riffs are great, drums are all-time, lyrics are dumb and one-note, competing with the song titles. But I can't imagine them without Maynard, dumb or no.

Danny Carey has been playing the drums on Seth Meyers all week & apparently there is a new album coming up.

I heard there was a new album coming up last year. Any details on when?

I care less about when the album arrives and more about it being better than the last record they put out, tbh!

well yeah, but you can't make that determination until an actual album has dropped

Well yeah, but if they don't have another great record in 'em then we won't be missing out on anything if it doesn't come out.

i really love "jambi" and "wings/10,000 days" and would like the new record to resemble those

oh also "right in two." been reaching for 10,000 days a lot lately

Undertow is still a beautiful, wonderful album.

it is

Undertow, AEnima and particularly Lateralus = a trilogy of high quality albums.

yup, I loved them from the EP though. Back when they got labelled 'Grunge' as everything did at that time

Opiate and Undertow are my favorite releases of theirs still.

In order of preference for me: Lateralus > Undertow > AEnima.

Tool are classic

Aenima > Undertow > Lateralus > Opiate

Great band. But are you all forgetting 10,000 Days on purpose? 'Vicarious', the 'Wings for Marie' suite and especially 'Intension'/'Right in Two' are classics that would have fit nicely on the two earlier albums.

AEnima > Lateralus > 'Sober' > 10,000 Days >>> Undertow-'Sober' > Opiate

Can't say I really listen to these guys anymore, but Sober remains a great single that I'm always happy to hear.

the 'Wings for Marie' suite and especially 'Intension'/'Right in Two'

these are great songs, some of the best of their career but imo they're the only great songs on 10,000 days

a little over a year ago, i pitched a ranking of every tool song including the more unmusical interludes, mostly to make fun of bill wyman lists) but it fell through bc writing a blurb for every song seemed exhausting and the pitch was at least 70 percent a joke anyway

'Throw that Bob Marley wannabe motherfucker outta here'.

I'd love a Tool track poll. I'd probably go for Pushit. Or Third Eye. Or Lateralus. Or Crawl Away. Or...

Anyone else read the Lilith Fair oral history where Maynard claims he had Tool's manager request a slot on the bill, just so that he could frame the thanks but no thanks letter?

Anyway, I would listen to Tool even if it was just isolated drum tracks.

I have a weird recurring dream about Danny Carey where I'm in a distant part of a venue and I need to get him a message. It's definitely him (or someone copying him) as it's the 'bouncing tennis ball' thing from the start of Disposition.

Was actually on a Tool kick after attending a goth themed birthday party where, by the end of it, the DJs just kept dropping Tool and NIN tracks. 10,000 days surprised me - I recalled liking it more than Lateralus. Felt more emotionally charged. Aenima + Lateralus + 10,000 Days is a hell of a trilogy with the latter album being a solid "Eulogy" for the band. Probably fitting they don't release any more music at this point.

'Throw that Bob Marley wannabe motherfucker outta here'.

I'd love a Tool track poll. I'd probably go for Pushit. Or Third Eye. Or Lateralus. Or Crawl Away. Or...

― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, July 6, 2017 8:21 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

listen, i went through everything, and "jimmy" is the best tool song

I'm not gonna argue (well, I am). Just a thought, but Eleven off Stranger Things isn't an oblique Tool reference, is it?

Or a Dead reference. Or Primus.

I assume they are working on a new album. they've been touring and Maynard is going to tour A Perfect Circle, so either they are getting their voice and chops in order, or they've just been sharpened and they want to show them off.

I really should catch them live again, been too long.

One of favourite gig memories is them opening with Third Eye at the old Astoria, with Maynard painted entirely blue and eyes drawn all down his spine.
In that same gig, someone charged the stage and Maynard threw him, pinned him to the deck and didn't miss a note.