MF Doom?

Not to beat the overused beats thing into the ground, but some of the self produced tracks on this are just Doom phoning it in over beats that were on the Special Herbs & Spices series like 4 years ago.

oh nev mind xp

Also that Batty Boy track is piss poor. I can't work out what's worse, the suggestion that gay men should be battered with baseball bats or the will-this-do? delivery.

― Doran, Wednesday, April 1, 2009 3:20 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't think you get the song.

― chinese electrodribble torture (The Reverend), Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

GET A BRAIN DORANS

batty = first rap slashfic?

hahahahaha

Nah

Thinking more of what they can't explore, like
the cartoon Donald Duck is giving fellatio on the floor
with Reed Richards, looking at The Thing's naked pictures

--Doc Octagon, 1996

very disturbed that it took you just 4 mins to come up with that

batty boys is a weird track, i'm still trying to work out what he's getting at there.

i don't know where this album is in the ranking of doom albums (i have doomsday, gheedorah, madvilliany, 2nd victor vaughn, some of the herbs and spices mixes) and i don't see why that's particularly important. just because it's his fifth best album or whatever ... a bit like complaining about led zep or black sabbath's fifth best, isn't it?

I'm aware of third person narratives etc. And I've been listening to Doom's stuff since about 2000, so I'm aware of what he does.

I just don't think there's that much there to 'get'. This isn't a bad album, just too dull, too lazy.

Dull and lazy? Maybe compared to Madvillain, but that was a collaboration....to my ears, Bazillion ear thru Rap Ambush and Microwave Mayo thru That's That represent near-perfect Doom...the samples might be old, but the lyrical flow is as dense as ever, so much so that I still pick out new couplets after listening to it 20ish times. If anything, its a rather inconsistant effort, but still as good as any hip-hop released in the last two years. And re: "Batty Boyz", if listened to in the context that its intended (Doom, supervillain, ranking on the homoeroticism of his competition),it is not offensive at all.

picking out the one time KRS-ONE says "GAY!!" is ridiculous.

I'm not threatening to wrap myself in a rainbow flag and set myself on fire outside Lex's offices (no, not McPherson's offices), I just think it's a bit lame, that's all. The KRS One comparison doesn't hold that much water.

Space Is The Place: Maybe I need to give it another listen - I didn't glean what you did from it but I should probably listen to it again. After all, the bugger did send me a natty, reversible DOOM mask through the post. It's the least I can do.

I hear "Batty Boyz" as a sendup of rap homophobia as much as anything.

I'd be with you, but there's no big "hey, i'm joking" sign anywhere. its message is left kind of ambiguous

i wish i was more comfortable with it because it's probably the second best song on the record after the one with kurius

I fucking love this:

Wrote this lyric in bed with a chick/She had the tightest grip around the head of myyyyy...

[lengthy instrumental bridge]

...Bic. Now can I my pen back?/Got no enemy; got no friend, black.

The big "hey, I'm joking" sign is that it's fucking about Batman and Robin.

(almost worded that very poorly)

I'm huge mf doom fan but for some reason I don't really feel a need to listen to this album I don't know why

The big "hey, I'm joking" sign is that it's fucking about Batman and Robin.

The big "hey, I'm joking" sign is that it's about Batman and Robin fucking.

I am enjoying this album. Rap Ambush is the one I've been playing the most - I listened to Ballskin and That's That about a hundred times each while looking forward to this thing releasing.

Ah, I see, Rev! I never figured that the whole thing was about Batman!

I can't tell if you are sarcasms or not.

i'm not. I thought it was just a bunch of gay jokes followed by some batman stuff in the second verse

he does include a semi-cryptic explanation too: "There's gay choice/no hate debate/becomes a problem when they try to go straight/and raise the monster rate in the whole population/its starting to affect the super-pimpin occupation"

but my favorite line has to be:

"More rhymin/pure diamond/tore hymen/poor timin'/raw linin/Paul Simon tourin?/I'm in!"

i'm not. I thought it was just a bunch of gay jokes followed by some batman stuff in the second verse

― splattergories (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, April 2, 2009 7:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

THE BEAT IS A BATMAN SAMPLE

Also, it's really funny to me that Vast Aire's last album had a track where he's Batman. I don't think this is intended as a Vast dis, though, since they're pretty tight as far as I know.

Listening to "Batty-Boys" again, and I'm still really uncomfortable with it. I don't sense any wink or irony it it.

Same...

You know, I think the trick is to remember that he is a character. Doom is the SUPERVILLAIN.

And villains naturally would chill in their underground lairs making gay jokes about superheroes who where tights

^^^money store

My expectations were way too high for this album.. oh well. I still like it, but I thought he was capable of the OK Computer of hiphop... whatever that's supposed to mean..

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8054/gqoe2.jpg

lol

^^^money store

― sugjust blaze (The Reverend), Saturday, April 4, 2009 5:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not sure how i feel about this

but i respect that u r making innovative moves

oh shit, I can't believe I fucked that up, supposed to read "money house"

gettin my dollar stores and money houses mixed up :/

Vast Aire feat. Geechie Suede - The Dynamic Duo

listening to Goodie Mob right now, and Khujo - as usual - is much more poisonous and offensive than doom ever was in homophobia. And he's not even funny!

little confused by the Doom profile in the New Yorker this week. i mean, if you're gonna do something on Doom, why now? ok, so you can bitch about the current state of rap... but again, is Doom really the right stand in for the "Golden Era." very confusing.

i love Doom and the New Yorker but they should really stick to shit like this http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann?yrail

There are a couple funny parts though - Doom driving around LA (or being driven around by his driver who's named after the robot from Short Circuit) getting drunk instead of going to the studio and trying to write a rap about the chimp who killed his owner from the chimps perspective.

Also, excited to hear work's finally being done on another colab w/ Madlib.

Not a subscriber, so I only see an abstract at the moment. Sad, I'd like to read it.

http://www.eyeweekly.com/music/live%20eye/article/84317--doom-kool-haus-feb-25

I've had the "Rapp Snitch Knishes" beat in my head all day

what ever happened to Mr. Fantastik?

doo doodoo
doo doodoo
dee deedlydeedly
deeedly doo doo deedly

xpost And does he rap under another alias? Needs to put out his own album.

& has anyone heard the Gigan EP? And did Hassan Chop record anything worth hearing after this?

yeh i got the EP on the strength of krazy world. it's excellent NY headbusting shit but not as singular as u might expect. he loses that out the side of the mouth flow coming aggie.

holy moly. listening to the king geedorah album now. last track, 'the fine print' is great.