Violator!

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One of the best albums of all time, IMO.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 16:29 (ten years ago)

I was at that Los Angeles show. Depeche mode were great, Electronic not so much.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 16:45 (ten years ago)

prob the most popular 'modern rock' album for scoring gay pr0n in the '90s

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 17:02 (ten years ago)

this is my go to for "this thing is so and so many years old but so and so many years before that thomas edison invented the tampon." enjoy the silence my ass. the void is screaming back at you. time is fucked up seriously. there were at least full three cultural cycles in the 1980s by my count but this was barely one and a half cultural cycles ago? the beatles barely got off the plane yet two violators ago. three violators ago people were buying war bonds. this shit was just yesterday.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 8 August 2015 06:24 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

I've been spending so much time with Spirit this year that I've realised I haven't returned to Violator in a while. Listening to this with that in mind, I'm struck by how different both Gahan's and Gore's voices are now - and not neccessarily for the better either.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:17 (eight years ago)

Like, Gahan's vocals on Violator are definitely untutored, but the overall sound of his voice is far easier on the ear, I think.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:20 (eight years ago)

Oh yeah, and I'll always love the way 'Blue Dress' segues into 'Clean' via 'Interlude Nr. 3' ... this is one of those albums where side one is awesome and side two still manages to blow it out of the water.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:25 (eight years ago)

yeah Gahan's singing is obviously more skilled now but I defintely prefer his old hoarse drone

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:34 (eight years ago)

good god i love "policy of truth"

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 16:26 (eight years ago)

Yeah, it's probably my favourite track on the album, although it's a tough choice!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 17:01 (eight years ago)

This thread inspired me to listen to the whole album end to end for the first time in god knows how long, and Jesus Christ it’s all killer isn’t it? The sound design is so much more detailed than I remember it, a weird collage of familiar 90s presets with textbook Fairlight sampling. And correct me if I’m wrong; but there weren’t many electronic bands at that point embracing 6/8 the way DM did?

Side note: me and a friend covered Policy of Truth for an 8-bit compilation a couple of years back: https://8bitoperators.bandcamp.com/track/policy-of-truth

bamboohouses, Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:32 (eight years ago)

it really does sound incredible... flood is an iron chef here.
i was thinking about that cascading feedback/e-bowing that closes "policy of truth".. it's an amazing sound and it's mixed so well.

understood by moron level and above (brimstead), Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:45 (eight years ago)

Francois Kervorkian mixed the album and apparently he was really anal about it - there's stories about the band listening in to him mixing and all they can hear is a hi-hat or something and they're thinking "what is he doing!?"

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:13 (eight years ago)

*Kevorkian, sorry.

He also mixed Kraftwerk's Electric Cafe.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:15 (eight years ago)

Violator is the last good Depeche Mode album

crüt, Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:16 (eight years ago)

"Kervorkian" is the misspelling they used in the Violator liner notes iirc

crüt, Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:17 (eight years ago)

ut i stand by "enjoy the silence" because i could write thesis about it

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Why because it footnote interstin

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fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:29 (eight years ago)

i sang Policy of Truth at karaoke tonight....the song is just fuckin infectious

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:31 (eight years ago)

xxpost:

Yeah, it's understandable to think that. Violator represents a peak of sorts - the one it was all leading up to, and the one that everything after was in the shadow of. I still think Songs of Faith and Devotion and Ultra are great records, though - and generally see 1984-1998 as one long extended period of greatness. After that, it gets spotty.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 23 November 2017 07:34 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

As of last week, "Personal Jesus" is now thirty years old.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:27 (six years ago)

Your own
Middle-aged
Jesus

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:31 (six years ago)

I have a good friend, a bit older than me, who used to be at least a casual fan of Depeche Mode throughout the '80s... until Violator! I can't really conceive of that album being the jump-ship point. He reserves a huge hunk of animus for "Personal Jesus," specifically.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:31 (six years ago)

There is a subset of DM fandom who went "ew guitars" on that song

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

That Rich Cotton Dub of Enjoy the Silence is so good.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:35 (six years ago)

All discerning Depeche Mode fans bailed after Violator. It was obvious on SoFAD that the band were done creatively and now it was just Junkie Dave thinking he's Jesus and over-singing every song. There's nothing essential released after 1990.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:37 (six years ago)

Er... no.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:39 (six years ago)

Yeah, that's...wrong.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:41 (six years ago)

There is a subset of DM fandom who went "ew guitars" on that song

"...you know there's guitars on "Never Let Me Down Again" and "Behind the Wheel," right?"

"NOT LISTENING!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:42 (six years ago)

I was going to follow up with "these are, of course, the same morons who lose their shit when any given MFTM single pops up" but got distracted

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:44 (six years ago)

I have a good friend, a bit older than me, who used to be at least a casual fan of Depeche Mode throughout the '80s... until Violator!

That's pretty much me actually. I became a fan in '84 or '85 when my older sister got Some Great Reward and the People are People comp, bought all the earlier and later albums through MFTM, saw the '88 tour, saw 101 in the theater on opening night -- and haven't bought anything since. I didn't dislike Personal Jesus or Enjoy the Silence and have nothing against guitars, there was just something about them that seemed less interesting in some way. It could've just been oversaturation; prior to Violator I didn't hear much DM if I wasn't playing them myself; when that came out I was hearing those songs all the time and for whatever reason didn't feel like I needed the album. I've been meaning to check it out after seeing all the praise for it here over the years.

early rejecter, Friday, 6 September 2019 19:24 (six years ago)

display names vmic

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:32 (six years ago)

they peaked with Speak and Spell

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:49 (six years ago)

more like peak and pell

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:50 (six years ago)

lol

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:50 (six years ago)

I hate the term “bucket list” but this band is one of my top “bucket list” bands to see live

brimstead, Friday, 6 September 2019 19:54 (six years ago)

Not that I haven’t had zillions of opportunities!!

brimstead, Friday, 6 September 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

All discerning Depeche Mode fans bailed after Violator. It was obvious on SoFAD that the band were done creatively and now it was just Junkie Dave thinking he's Jesus and over-singing every song. There's nothing essential released after 1990.

― brotherlovesdub

This is clearly trolling, and yet it describes my relationship with their music pretty accurately

enochroot, Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:55 (six years ago)

I can sort of see why someone would think that Depeche Mode didn't do anything worthwhile after violator or that an 80s Depeche Mode fan would not like Personal Jesus, but I can't imagine why a Depeche Mode fan would not like something like World in my Eyes or sweetest perfection

silverfish, Sunday, 8 September 2019 02:32 (six years ago)

can we post 50 reasons why we love "Halo" like we did in the Tusk thread?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 September 2019 02:33 (six years ago)

I’ve said this before, but “Halo” is a proper second verse short of greatness.

Tim F, Sunday, 8 September 2019 06:00 (six years ago)

six months pass...

Thirty years old today.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:11 (six years ago)

Happy birthday! The production on this has aged very well.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:18 (six years ago)

Yeah it really pops

Tim F, Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:35 (six years ago)

Still one of the GOATs.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:36 (six years ago)

Celebrating the 30th birthday by blasting this today. What an album.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 20 March 2020 09:18 (six years ago)

I have nothing bad to say about this album (except maybe ... 'undetectedly'?) Listening to the bonus tracks though makes it all the more remarkable, they are entirely lacking in whatever kind of magic was captured in the album proper.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 20 March 2020 12:20 (six years ago)

Totally, the drop in quality is pretty incredible. The album seems to have been born fully formed

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 March 2020 12:28 (six years ago)

"Dangerous" and "Sea of Sin" are two of their best ever b-sides, but it's true that neither would fit on the album proper. They're great songs, but they still can't touch most of Violator.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 20 March 2020 22:57 (six years ago)

sea of sun and happiest girl are songs I would place pretty high in my ranking of Depeche Mode tracks, but as mentioned, neither would have fit in this album.

this is almost certainly the album I've listened to the most in my life and while I don't really listen to it that much anymore (I can play it entirely in my head whenever I want) it still holds up surprisingly well

silverfish, Saturday, 21 March 2020 01:45 (six years ago)

“Dangerous” comes closest to feeling like it could slot in. Then again, I’ve always had that feeling about “Never Let Me Down Again”, too. Production-wise especially, that track sounds like a sonic bridge from the record before.

vmajestic, Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:41 (six years ago)


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