Carly Rae Jepsen • Kiss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBPw0l26L58

;_;

are you sad because it's a disco ball?

sure

is there any chance at all of "run away with me" becoming an actual hit? i want / need to have a euphoric dancing experience to this in public at some point

i think it could be, depends on how well it's promoted

on board with this album now fwiw

I thought he was sad because he made the mistake of looking at the Youtube comments where everybody is making comparisons to Bad Blood.

oh yeah lol

is Run Away With Me not even charting??? WTF

it debuted at #104 on the uk charts today

but now there's a video for "warm blood" as well!! so.. idk

is Run Away With Me not even charting??? WTF

― mingalaba, Friday, July 31, 2015 10:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the internet is vastly overstating the extent to which the general public shares their cult fandom

oh finally

Popularity is a weird thing. Operating on the premise that Carly Rae's closest musical kin is Taylor Swift, it makes no sense that she wouldn't be as famous for making slightly better songs and having a slightly better voice, but it does make sense for her not purposely living her life like (and writing songs as if) she's a walking supermarket tabloid (no shade on TayTay, it's her choice). For some reason I can't put a finger on, CRJ seems kind of like a "distant" figure in a way that TS (or Katy Perry or Rihanna or even the One Direction fellas) doesn't. That probably hurts her when it comes to cultivating a rabid fanbase.

it debuted at #104 on the uk charts today

but now there's a video for "warm blood" as well!! so.. idk

― transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:27 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't see a video yet, only a YouTube audio...

i'm afraid i will cause a car accident if i hear "run away with me" on the radio from dancing and/or crying uncontrollably so maybe it's better if it's not a hit

she's releasing a new song from it weekly until the release date
not that it will make much of a difference unfortunately

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/arts/music/carly-rae-jepsen-with-a-new-album-is-definitely-changing-her-number.html
this article's interesting. wonder what she means by wanting to 'go even weirder' on the next album because nothing on this seems very 'weird'.

I like this album, A+ bubblegum. Wonder if my kids will get into it if it's not something every other living person under 13 is listening to.

"This time we wanted to stop worrying about singles and focus on having a critically acclaimed album." -- I feel like I have to preface all my posts with the fact that I like this album, but man, if ever there was a more damning quote from a manager

Weirdly, there might be some strategy behind that. Keep her contract active and keep her in the minds of people until the unwashed masses can catch up.

"This time we wanted to stop worrying about making something people would buy and focus on having an album people liked."

"album sales are really where it's at these days"

It makes total sense as a long-term strategy; in the general public's mind she's a classic one hit wonder at this point. She doesn't have and is uninterested in building a tabloid profile to keep herself in headlines without hit music; and Call Me Maybe is unduplicable. So a well crafted pure pop album for the heads will at least maintain niche loyalty until a potential comeback. Of course what's surprising is a major label taking a long term approach at all...

Nothing on this album sounds like a hit and it's only v superficially comparable to 1989

I think "I Really Like You" sounds even more like a hit than "Call Me Maybe" but maybe bubblegum sometimes works against you. "Emotion" sounds like a massive hit record to me, too.

was "I Really Like You" not a hit?

Looks to have been in some countries. Yet to hear it once on the radio in the U.S.

#39 in the States.

Nothing on this album sounds like a hit

I will never understand what keeps stuff like "Run Away With Me" or "Gimmie Love" from connecting with people or radio or w/ever

I Really Like You was #3 in the UK and it was released in a tough week (same as Cheerleader and See You Again iirc).

In my head there are faint traces of genealogy b/w Run Away With Me and Pray To God and given that Tayvin Swarris is a thing we'll probably be subjected to in 2016 these sorts of songs should theoretically be hits or are otherwise simply ahead of their time.

i feel like maybe she could, like, un-crossover and have the same sort of fanbase career as robyn or charli xcx. sorta feel like her working with people like dev hynes, ariel rechtshaid, rostam etc on this record is the first step in building that bridge.

that said maybe she'll end up in this weird stasis where she's too one hit wonder to ever be taken seriously by both the general pop audience of america *and* the types of people who think robyn is the only acceptable pop star

Kind of ironic that the big pop stars are wanting to work with or sound like The Weeknd whereas making bubblegum codes as chasing that Robyn stanbase.

Robyn's stuff recently suggests she is straying from Body Talk-esque material so that sort of lane is open to her, but yeah it's essentially dependent on "the types of people who think robyn is the only acceptable pop star" being open minded enough to embrace her.

The way EMOTION is reviewed will have a lot to do with this I think.

The points of difference between 1989 and Emotion are pretty much all the reasons that none of the excellent pop songs on the latter sound like a 2k15 hit. And tbh it doesn't sound like CRJ's playing that personality game anyway

The failure of "22" might be a prototype for the Jepsen songs if they don't come up big in the U.S. Again, if that means that these songs *don't sound like a 2k15 hit*, that's only because they code as bubblegum. One Direction often ends up in the same boat.

"What Makes You Beautiful" and Justin Bieber's "Baby" might suggest that breakthroughs can still happen, though.

iunno how viable the robyn NPR para-pop career path is for major label artists

iirc robyn is fully independent and a big hard ticket live draw so she's in a great position to shape the career she wants from the larger share of the income her independence guarantees

seems like when people on the mainstream side of the line get seduced by the idea of a thinking person's quality-not-quantity pop career it's usually followed pretty quickly by an abrupt "WAIT, GUYS, DON'T LEAVE! I WAS JUST KIDDING! OF COURSE I WANT TO BE ON THE RADIO" about-face once the paychecks reveal how small that audience actually is

the robyn lane is also incredibly crowded, full of people who want to cross over the non-reverse way, and increasingly full of people who do both at the same time (see: alessia cara)

I guess it depends how they want to work it. Robyn gets afaict absolutely zero airplay in the US, despite lots loving her. For those accustomed to success via the the radio-sales-tour model, that throws things off. Throws off perspective, too. Like, is Haim popular? By what metric? Sky Ferreira? What happened to Annie from Norway?

I Really Like You was like the highest selling #3 single in the UK in quite some time and iirc only lost the #1 spot due to the inclusion of streaming on the chart. It also did really well in Japan (with respect to how foreign artists typically do over there). Focusing on critical success makes sense if she can still build a fanbase in other big non-US markets.

Turns out that I Really Like You is the weakest track? I don't enjoy it as much as the others. Nevermind that, it might be my favorite pop record released this decade.

robyn is legit popular in scandinavia, i wonder if it would be harder to maintain a career as a critically acclaimed but not actually popular pop musician without that

Was listening to some pop for kids with my kid today, and first came across Rachel Platton's "Fight Song," which couldn't be more of a rip of nu-Taylor style. Then I heard "Dumb" by Heydaze, which I'm about to post to the worst songs thread. But then I heard Demi Lovato's "Cool for the Summer," and that song is dope.

then I heard Demi Lovato's "Cool for the Summer," and that song is dope.

At this point, I feel like the only person left who thinks this song is nbd.

I think it's because the first time the guitar faded in it really caught me by surprise, and added a sonic component I hadn't heard in one of these summer pop songs in some time.

Was listening to some pop for kids with my kid today, and first came across Rachel Platton's "Fight Song," which couldn't be more of a rip of nu-Taylor style.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, August 3, 2015 1:31 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh what

Did I miss something? I just thought it sounded a lot like the singles from the latest Taylor. Is that inaccurate? I'd never heard it or heard of her before.

Huh, so I guess they're buddies?

inaccurate in the sense that it sounds nothing like any of the taylor singles (accurate in the sense that apparently they're touring together, though)

At this point, I feel like the only person left who thinks this song is nbd.

I agree tbh

I suspect artists are telling producers and writers they want a song "like Taylor Swift" w/out pinning down what the hell this means.

xpost I thought it echoed a vibe, not that I would actually confuse it with the singles. Though it would fit right on one of her recent records regardless, imo.