I feel quite the opposite, really. Barter stacks its best tracks towards the end and would have benefited from a proper London On The Track hit, but apart from those minor flaws it's definitely the most ambitious, accomplished and adventerous release of the two.
― longneck, Thursday, 16 July 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
woooow xxp wtf is this real?
― Spottie, Thursday, 16 July 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link
def
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/60416-young-thug-and-birdman-accused-of-conspiring-to-kill-lil-wayne/
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
idiots
― Spottie, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
this saddens me
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
This on top of Barter 6 being empty garbage, fuck this guy
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link
the first part of that sentence is pretty silly
― Number None, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/16/did-young-thug-and-birdman-try-to-kill-lil-wayne.html
This article is so weird. It tut tuts Young Thug for being immature. ("Just because his name is Young Thug doesn't mean he has to act like one.") Plotting to kill someone seems too serious to discuss in this way...
― Treeship, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link
i blame birdman
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 July 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
bad influence
oh Birdman is definitely evil
― Number None, Thursday, 16 July 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link
there's no way any of this shit actually happened
― flopson, Thursday, 16 July 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link
You guys, the only evidence they're claiming is that the shooter holds a gun in Thug's video where Thugger obliquely references Wayne in a non-threatening manner, about two minutes after the reference. He's not going down over this.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 July 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link
the trend of rap lyrics being used as evidence in court is so troubling
― nose, Friday, 17 July 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/60417-cash-money-sues-jay-z-tidal-for-50-million-over-lil-waynes-the-free-weezy-album/
― soyrev, Friday, 17 July 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link
the implied narrative by all these headlines is pretty amazing
― soyrev, Friday, 17 July 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link
*lil wayne sues birdman*
birdman: 50 mil? fuck am i supposed to get that?
birdman: let's just kill him
*failed murder attempt*
birdman: damn
*tidal releases 'free weezy album'*
birdman: maybe we can get it from jay
You guys, the only evidence they're claiming is that the shooter holds a gun in Thug's video where Thugger obliquely references Wayne in a non-threatening manner, about two minutes after the reference. He's not going down over this.― The Reverend, Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Reverend, Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah but it's fishy. Why else would someone shoot at lil wayne's tour bus?
― Treeship, Friday, 17 July 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/300-entertainment/young-thug-pacifier
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 17 July 2015 03:48 (eight years ago) link
it's whineybait because it has sampled snare drums but it legitimately is great and probably the best thing young thug has done this year
― some dude, Friday, 17 July 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link
Great MWMI beat, quickly ruined by Whiner McMumbles spitting all over it.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 July 2015 04:13 (eight years ago) link
Dimwit here... I'm really enjoying all this Lil Wayne-influenced hip hop recently. This "cloud rap" & Southern Rae Sremmurd/Young Thug stuff seems too "out there" to have become as popular as it has, though... from my perspective it's like Bjork-inspired acts took over a large chunk of radio rock!
Basically this stuff seems so avant garde, lyrically, that I don't understand how it's become so popular. I know I'm speaking from ignorance here (Canadian living in Cambodia), but I'm so ignorant I don't even know why I'm wrong. Can someone clue me in? Yeah there are parallels in the past with James Brown or early electronica where the music simply went over a lot people's heads, but a core component of this new stuff seems to be dadaist lyrics. Even the silliest doo-wop (and this could be called doowopcore imho) had the love song structure. Rock has had "Bird's the Word"/"Song 2"-type songs but they were always considered novelties within the genre. Are there past examples of genres centrally featuring dadaist lyrics becoming as popular as this wave of hip hop, or it historically unique? Is there criticism which has touched upon this? I know that there's a lot of meaning going over my head, but the bizarreness of Young Thug's lyrical style is a major part of the appeal, no?
― Adam J Duncan, Friday, 17 July 2015 05:59 (eight years ago) link
RIP Camp Lo's former wikipedia page ;_;
― The Reverend, Friday, 17 July 2015 06:12 (eight years ago) link
speaking of... their new album is a blast
― Spottie, Friday, 17 July 2015 06:42 (eight years ago) link
xxp this is p much why currently i'm listening to more hip hop than i ever have.
― (no offence to people) (dog latin), Friday, 17 July 2015 09:08 (eight years ago) link
i mean, i used to listen primarily for the productions, not being a big lyrics guy, but these days it's the delivery of the vocal and the sheer fun with - i don't want to say wordplay - but fun with words in general, pronunciation etc.
― (no offence to people) (dog latin), Friday, 17 July 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link
omg this new song!!
― lex pretend, Friday, 17 July 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link
Yes. Dropping it right now after 14 months of limbo feels like massive damage control from 300 Ent, but if this is indeed the first single from the album I'm not mad at all.
― longneck, Friday, 17 July 2015 09:22 (eight years ago) link
Yeah me too doglatin, it's some of the freshest stuff out there and I keep coming back to it... but I've imagined how I'd feel if "Hey QT" or "Lemonade" shot to the top of the charts. Stunned. Guess it's already happened with Southern Hip Hop and I'm just out of touch (main difference from 2000s crunk & Lil Wayne is in no way does this feel like a novelty).
― Adam J Duncan, Friday, 17 July 2015 09:35 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I'm relatively new to it too, save for a few EOY cuts from the past. Not sure how much hip hop figures in the UK charts ATM cos I don't really pay attention to them. Neither am I that sure about how well recognised people like Thugger are in the UK outside of hip-hop circles. Still, over the summer I've found along with afrobeats it's all I really want to listen to.
― (no offence to people) (dog latin), Friday, 17 July 2015 09:54 (eight years ago) link
Ha, Afrobeats... heard a few times out this month. Latest was Friday, seeing a session bassist friend with an Indian drummer-on-a-beats-in-a-box and typical Cambo expat as singer-songwriter... was warned against it earlier by the bassist at a local beefhouse... called the singer-songwriter a cross between Cohen and the Crash Test Dummies. Went anyhow, thought it was alright, singer-songwriter English teacher nihilist dude apparently doubles as videographer, had koyaanisqatsi-style footage on the projector from Late 90s East Village lowlife... heroin addicts and WTC and all... guy was closer to an untalented Nick Cave, w/ East Village affections... whole time through it's Nigerians in the back playing pool flirting with Khmer whores and one-night-in-the-Penh scared Ozzie backpackers at the bar hugging their girls watching the Wimbledon semifinals live. Their LAST NOTE Davido gets pumped up on the speakers (note that Nigerians are barred from most bars here so they'll take it where they can get it), Mr English Teacher asides immediately to bassist friend that they get replaced by "techno shit".
Feel a bit bad for the guy, sure he's a musical hack but the footage was great, he succeeded in mooding his corner, so after my food-poisoned friend & Viet wife & kid leaves and my wife & I get bored I get fed up of waiting for him to stop talking to the drummer (giving up on my dreams of explaining Bhangra and Cave might not be the best fit) and head up to his booth, saying that yeah at times I clued into his act and considered it the shit... like Thurston Moore had a blues side-project (hey know your audience). "hey wow thanks!"... and hey is your footage on YouTube? "It's a long story... I'm in the middle of a conversation, can we talk in a bit?"
English teacher proceeds to the bar. I proceed to rock out to Davido the hardest in my life.
I wore a Phillies cap out that night. Learned the next night at Sharky's he was from Harrisburg PA. Might prefer no fans at all over the kinds of people he left back in PA on his way to the East Village, I dunno. I've got 100k views a day nowadays on YT, thought his video was the shit, wanted to explain how to get an audience bigger than one per week.
Anyway this is the kind of stuff I should post under a screenname, not for being Phnom Penh, but because I've been told my pithiness is legendary and should remain under wraps. Davido's been great this month tho. Won't share the other times.
― Adam J Duncan, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:32 (eight years ago) link
Cambodia
― Hikikomori Povich (tsrobodo), Friday, 17 July 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link
terrifyingly british
― flopson, Friday, 17 July 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link
"pacifier" is sick
― flopson, Friday, 17 July 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif
― lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link
i love the guitars and the screaming
― flopson, Friday, 17 July 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
do we know whether or not hitunes is going to have anything thugger recorded in 2015?
regardless pacifier is insanely good
― misterjoshua, Friday, 17 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/mikewillmadeit/young-thug-i-need-chickens-mike-will-made-it
― Number None, Sunday, 19 July 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
love that sweater
― flopson, Sunday, 19 July 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link
why wouldn't it? it generally seems like he's constantly recording and most of what he releases is very recent (and the clearly old stuff that's gotten out there has been unauthorized leaks or stuff from Gucci's vaults).
― some dude, Sunday, 19 July 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link
might be something to do with
andrew @noz Jul 16assuming barter 6 was all rich gang era cuts to preempt the leak we haven't heard one contemporaneous young thug song in 2015
He also says Pacifier is "at least 14 months old"
― Number None, Sunday, 19 July 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
i saw that tweet but i don't know why he assumes the leak & barter 6 were old material? barter 6 defnitely feels like a whole album of 'givenchy' but that's not really concrete. maybe based grandpa knows something i don't?
― flopson, Sunday, 19 July 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I don't see any reason to assume the stuff on Barter 6 wasn't new.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 July 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah maybe noz has an inside track on something i dunno. a lot of big name rappers are frequently throwing out music that was recorded really really recently, but i always suspect that a lot of the 'new' music we hear has been sitting on a hard drive for longer than we'd guess, like a good year or two. you just can't even guess unless the artist is prone to timestamped references (which YT isn't) or has had turnover in producers and collaborators (which YT has, so you kind of assume if a song with Quan or Lil Wayne leaks that it was done a while ago).
― some dude, Monday, 20 July 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link
hi.
i can't find it right now but there was a youtube interview where thug specifically says that barter 6 was put together from the leaked tracks to preempt the leak. and it was my understanding that the leak was all rich gang era stuff. there are definitely some of those time stamping issues on b6 too ie "i'm chasing dreams free meek milly" six months after meek came home.
here is mike will tweeting about pacifier in may 2014 https://twitter.com/MikeWiLLMadeIt/status/465956175331479552
― based grandpa (noz), Monday, 20 July 2015 03:11 (eight years ago) link
thank you based grandpa
― flopson, Monday, 20 July 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link
on second thought i would guess "constantly hating" is new material given the oblique lil wayne references and the fact that it's stylistically pretty different from everything else on there
― based grandpa (noz), Monday, 20 July 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link
yeah that was the one that always made the record feel of-the-moment to me but i guess it was an outlier.
so Young Thug has to have recorded a ton of songs in the last 6 months and we've maybe heard barely any of them? interesting.
― some dude, Monday, 20 July 2015 03:19 (eight years ago) link
:)
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 July 2015 03:50 (eight years ago) link