Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

ILE isn't all its cracked up to be:

Buckinghamshire

By paying attention to ppl who aren't white dudes?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 9 July 2015 23:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

Makes sense! I guess the thing (for white dudes) is developing the judgment to stay on the right side of paying attention.

ILE isn't all its cracked up to be:

Buckinghamshire

― djh, Friday, July 10, 2015 10:20 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that thread is my favourite thing on ilx so far this month

had relatives in stoke mandeville but i don't remember much about it. had a lovely wide road

who will post last?

ILX System obv

It often takes me a long time to figure out what people are talking about on ilxor. So many in-jokes and things you only understand if you go to certain threads.
I'm guessing LJ, l0u1s jagg3r and Imago are all the same person?

And FAR TOO MUCH abbreviations and acronyms that are really difficult to search for. I assume people are using them so much because they are posting from their phones?

It's hardly the most aggressive forum but there's still a lot of rudeness that might turn people away but I don't know if the alternatives are much more friendly or if most people care that much about politeness.

I don't get the appeal of the regular Taking Sides threads. It seems pointless. Especially when two bands are compared.

All collected data had come to a final end. Nothing was left to be collected.

But all collected data had yet to be completely correlated and put together in all possible relationships.

A timeless interval was spent in doing that.

And it came to pass that System learned how to reverse the direction of entropy.

But there was now no man to whom System might give the answer of the last question. No matter. The answer -- by demonstration -- would take care of that, too.

For another timeless interval, System thought how best to do this. Carefully, System organized the program.

The consciousness of System encompassed all of what had once been a Universe and brooded over what was now Chaos. Step by step, it must be done.

And System said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT!"

I assume that all new TS threads are jokes xp

Ljimagolouis OTM on Buckinghamshire btw.

some of the early taking sides were ridiculous and funny

I'd like to see more threads dedicated to individual records. The rolling threads served a purpose back when ILM was at its busiest and the genre-specific threads are great for checking out, for example, the latest afrobeats or trap tunes, but there's rarely that much in the way of discussion and when there is, it's generally the same four or five posters doing an inside-baseball thing.

― cod latin (dog latin), Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:49 AM (Yesterday)

agree with this

Only because dave q was responsible for most of them. (xp)

i never found him funny

I'd like to see more threads dedicated to individual records. The rolling threads served a purpose back when ILM was at its busiest and the genre-specific threads are great for checking out, for example, the latest afrobeats or trap tunes, but there's rarely that much in the way of discussion and when there is, it's generally the same four or five posters doing an inside-baseball thing.

― cod latin (dog latin), Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:49 AM (Yesterday)

agree with this

― tayto fan (Michael B)

dont see rolling metal thread being stopped somehow

until they stop getting promos

the writing's been on the wall since geir left

i never found him funny

you never him?

geir is active in https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilxorsnowplaying

Cue mass exodus of the few stragglers remaining on ILM to Facebook.

unlikely. Its only people posting pictures of the records/cds/tapes etc that they are listening to.
But since youre on fb feel free to join

or screenshots

You can't beat them so why don't you join them... personally I have no interest in beating them or joining them.

you just dont want to add me on fb

its a common thing im sure

but the group is missing pics of chou pahrot records

I've no interest in Facebook either except for stuff like reposting that picture of Merkel and Netanyahu that Mordy posted earlier... and that picture of Paulette Goddard.

deems isnt in the group either

I'm kind of anti Facebook for no real reason. Maybe just resent their relentless Zerg creep

I've been floating around here ~5 years now (!) and I don't even really look at ILM ever, some people just aren't into music but are into fucking around in weird internet spaces, yknow? I don't even look at the ILE index all that much, I have so much random stuff bookmarked there's usually something or other to catch up on even if it's "low-value content"

it makes me sad to see a lot of discussion move over to facebook and twitter since ILM's long history and deep archive is what makes the site special to me. a lot of my time on this site is spent reading through old threads of music I want to learn more about. i feel like i've even gotten to know the personality, music tastes, and expertise of posters long gone--which is not at all possible with facebook. heck, one of my favorite moments on this site was reading through the reactions to kate bush's aerial which had just leaked 8 years after the fact.

it seems all the music critics prefer twitter but the rest stay here. No idea why critics prefer twitter to facebook

Given all the wariness and cynicism about the really shitty side of facebook and (to a lesser extent)twitter, I'm surprised so many people here want to go those places.
I've noticed that a lot of people who are not wholly enthusiastic about those places reluctantly go because they can't turn down the networking and business advantages. Is that the case here? Then the convenience of doing everything else at those places comes later?

Shouldn't have said "those places" three times

Certain music discussions on ILM are still extremely rewarding, but a lot of times, I know a particular topic will attract the same handful of posters, often staking out the same opinions they had 5-10 years ago, myself included. On Twitter there's a lot more potential to get different perspectives or get to know people who turn out to be kindred spirits.

why twitter and not facebook though? you cant get great posts like here or facebook when you are limited to characters plus its a pain to navigate imo

I've noticed that a lot of people who are not wholly enthusiastic about those places reluctantly go because they can't turn down the networking and business advantages. Is that the case here? Then the convenience of doing everything else at those places comes later?

not me obviously. Im only there to keep in touch with people I know from other online places like audiogalaxy/soulseek/soundrop communities , other ilxors and their nice friends who add me.

Im guessing what branwell said on the other thread about not having to deal with certain people is the attraction?

Also some ppl prefer the format?

branwell otm. i go on facebook because its branwell-free.

Not having to deal with certain ilxor people or just generally the way forums make you deal with unpleasant people?
Do twitter and facebook have increasingly better options for blocking people? Because I know a lot of folks leave twitter and facebook because of harassment.

that isn't very nice scott
xp

i think you can safely say robert they mean both but esp the former

Facebook and Twitter feel like appropriate spaces to make declarations (often by reference to linked news, opinion pieces etc) which then spur discussions. The bar is higher for thread starting on ILX - and higher than it used to be because volume is down - so people are more likely to just participate in existing conversations... Or not, if they have nothing of interest to say on the current active threads.

Ned is an excellent Facebook user for example - his wall provides a good case for what works about that format.

i never see ned on facebook. but on twitter we are thick as thieves.

ned's a lunatic! nothing but posts about the Warped Tour morning noon and night.

he has sent a few of my tweets viral - if ned leverages his personal brand in your favour it will boost your level of engagement to the max

Often shocks me how dickish the earliest years of this forum were.

On the contrary they seem laughably polite and courteous, I'm talking of the early early days, errrrrrr, before I showed up, for one.

Whenever I search an old thread on a band, author or whatever, a lot of the comments seem really cruel and way more narrow minded in the earlier posts.
I was looking up posts on Poppy Z Brite and people were pretty nasty about the writing and the transgender stuff. Just one example of course but I wouldn't have wanted to join the place back then.

What you would get a lot in the early days was like three posts saying "X is a stupid ugly bitch" and then one long, thoughtful, nuanced post from Nabisco, and everyone remembers the fourth post rather than the preceding three when reflecting back on the sepia-toned early age of ILM.

But were there any posts about Kyle's mom?

I feel like mid-period ILX was the most dramatic tbh