thanks! I think we all had fun doing in and are planning to do more....we only got together 3 or 4 times before the show so I think we can achieve a more psychic garcia/weir/lesh mental jam connection with more practice
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:48 (ten years ago)
yeah dudes, palmer/sowell/helgeson is sounding groovy! you have my permission to quit yr day jobs and focus on this full time.
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2015 15:58 (ten years ago)
"we've added the only thing that can make American Primitive guitar even *more* lucrative.....free improv!"
*mr. burns fingers*
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:04 (ten years ago)
Who is gonna wear the short shorts and tank tops Global, you? An integral part of the Weir sound.
Also, in re "we've added the only thing that can make American Primitive guitar even *more* lucrative.....free improv!", I can tell you all you want to know about this hah hah.
― grandavis, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:05 (ten years ago)
make it rain!
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:33 (ten years ago)
just came across this relevant adhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJfEW-SVAAEeVnR.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:34 (ten years ago)
lmao
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:30 (ten years ago)
dude's solo banjo LP by the light of the loews minibar is next level shit
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:49 (ten years ago)
Hah hah. Bonus points for it being a 6 string with pickups and volume knobs.
― grandavis, Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:12 (ten years ago)
checked out this latest dying for bad music thang from Andy Mcleod this morning -- an eclectic mix of sounds... straight takoma, bowles-ian banjo workouts, spacier electric stuff, carter family trad jams. i like! https://dyingforbadmusic.bandcamp.com/album/forge-the-valley
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:06 (ten years ago)
Hey, how was that Steve Gunn Band show? Any new songs? And was Elkington definitely in the fold, or was it Sukeena? Don't think I will get to see them on this tour anyway, but just curious.
― grandavis, Friday, 10 July 2015 16:02 (ten years ago)
Great show! MdG was great, highlight was actually this really stern, mammoth 10 min instrumental on pump organ
Gunn band w Elkington was really in the zone, maybe a less classic rock guitar hero version of Solar Motel, but yeah epic jams... Jennifer Castle was good, very beautiful voice, a wee bit twee at times but will end up buying the record,
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 July 2015 22:54 (ten years ago)
Nice, didn't get to see the Sukeena version but the show I saw with Elkington was great. That Matthew De Gennaro set sounds right up my alley, I love the sound of a pump organ.
― grandavis, Saturday, 11 July 2015 11:59 (ten years ago)
Hi, I haven't been here for a while, but wanted to leave something for you:Andy McLeod: http://dyingforbadmusic.bandcamp.com/yum?code=2nte-gv4mLebo Jenkins: http://dyingforbadmusic.bandcamp.com/yum?code=ykqh-ybvgShould work for a few downloads.
Also: Check out Alex Archibald: http://dyingforbadmusic.com/blog/post/2015/07/alex-archibald-accidental-waltzes-2015.htmlIt's a nice short EP, just the right size.
― DFBM (Nikolaus Höhle), Sunday, 12 July 2015 11:06 (ten years ago)
Thanks for throwing these up Nikolaus, Tyler already repped for that McLeod, psyched to check the rest of these out.
― grandavis, Monday, 13 July 2015 16:05 (ten years ago)
took a rare trip to the record store over the weekend, picked up a few things relevant to this thread, includinghttp://cdn.discogs.com/WBTT4FBB2PAr6-JSRUyi-XQT7Sg=/fit-in/500x500/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-2654014-1295128405.jpeg.jpgwhich is very good!
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 16:15 (ten years ago)
also grabbed the Cromarty Wind in the Heather LP, which I'd only had on mp3. that album is gorgeous.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 16:18 (ten years ago)
yeah wind in the heather is great, and a lot easier to track down than grassroots guitar
funny story: i spoke w/metzger once about his influences and he says he never even heard of fahey before people started comparing him to fahey, but he LOVES duck baker
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 July 2015 16:27 (ten years ago)
ha, that is great. he's new to me (unless he showed up on some comp I'm forgetting about).
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 16:32 (ten years ago)
think he has ties to stefan grossman. he's also on this very excellent collection:http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81SWickNBYL._SL1210_.jpg
― no lime tangier, Monday, 13 July 2015 17:23 (ten years ago)
ooh that looks good - yeah the Duck Baker album is on Kicking Mule, which I think was Grossman's label? also got this one! http://cdn.discogs.com/lhioGswxJY-cfJds8Sh36DaVl2I=/fit-in/600x594/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-5640717-1398703333-8427.jpeg.jpg
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 17:29 (ten years ago)
Speaking of Duck Baker, local jazz station used to play some of his takes on Monk--think there was a whole album---just now spotted this (if it's gone, it's a YouTube clip in which he demonstrates how to play Monk on guitar: a nine-minute workshop, but not too clinical)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF055gY1af0
― dow, Monday, 13 July 2015 18:20 (ten years ago)
grossman is kinda nerdy guitar stuff but i like him ok
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:38 (ten years ago)
i've just heard a couple things by him, but this one sounded very nice.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:53 (ten years ago)
xpost: well, his first release was an instructional lp... most entertaining grossman i've heard is a library lp he and a bunch of people did demonstrating different old-timey styles.
another good kicking mule lp to look out for: http://ghostcapital.org/peter-finger-bottleneck-guitar-solos-kicking-mule-km-116-1973/
― no lime tangier, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:57 (ten years ago)
yeah! i like that album. kicking mule stuff i've heard is pleasingly low-key.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 July 2015 22:16 (ten years ago)
https://igcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t51.2885-15/1922247_1661948707359269_1149418051_n.jpgxylouris white was so good last night, everyone should go see them. seriously amazing.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 15:33 (ten years ago)
Nice, and I wish! Glad you got to at least.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:11 (ten years ago)
Jim White is one of the greatest living drummers imoready to agree with this, just a stunning musician, pure inventiveness, natural feel, great hair.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)
Hah hah "great hair" otm. Not to be underrated if you can pull it off (which I unfortunately cannot).
― grandavis, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:23 (ten years ago)
And yeah, pretty much any record with Jim White is a good record.
You going to Red Rocks tonight?
i am! should be fun. two wild nights in a row, though, i feel tired already.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:25 (ten years ago)
Hah hah. I am sure you will have fun man, seems like a pretty ideal way to see the Gunn Band, and a damn fine way to spend an evening. Maybe Nels Cline will make it wild for the Wilco set too.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:31 (ten years ago)
tyler have you heard "you follow me" by nina nastasia & jim white?
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 17:18 (ten years ago)
You guys are gonna have to school me on Duck Baker. I've never heard his name outside of those Stefan Grossman guitar videos, and a quick Googling shows lots of traditional Irish stuff (usually not my bag, unless I'm in Ireland). Where to start? The song I just heard - "Child Of My Heart" - is wonderful.
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 20:55 (ten years ago)
And now I'm listening to some stuff with Zorn and Derek Bailey and not feeling it so far (but I'm generally unmoved by both Bailey and Zorn)
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 20:56 (ten years ago)
i have heard that nastasia album but i should revisit... i'm new to baker, but the one i got is super solid! start there!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 22:13 (ten years ago)
My lady friend was in Peru for three weeks and I was missing her, so I got a bit tipsy one night and made this podcast. Thought it would be relevant to this topic:http://imgur.com/pnMTqJyhttp://austintayeshus.blogspot.com/2015/06/acoustic-mix-for-angel-in-peru.html
― austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 23:25 (ten years ago)
Sorry, that should be:http://i.imgur.com/pnMTqJy.pnghttp://austintayeshus.blogspot.com/2015/06/acoustic-mix-for-angel-in-peru.html
― austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 23:27 (ten years ago)
gunn at red rocks was sweet - they sounded really good in a big open space. almost dareisay zeppelin-esque at times? (musically, not vocally haha)
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:10 (ten years ago)
I've been lurking on this thread because I CANNOT catch up to you guys, so I've been pretty quiet. Anyway, Glenn Jones playing my wedding this Saturday. He's been super nice. Him and his wife will be guests when he isn't playing- hoping we'll be able to chat and I'll try to get some footage of him playing. He said he has some new pieces he'll be playing for us!
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:26 (ten years ago)
oh man that is so cool... and congrats! being married is the best. see if glenn will break this one out www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3V9mIP7kQ
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:28 (ten years ago)
Oh cool Evan, have a great time! That should be great, hope you have a really wonderful day/night.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:45 (ten years ago)
There are some total pastoral-version Zeppelin moments in those recent Gunn band songs. Just kinda production/sound-wise with the guitars, but I hear it for sure. Would have loved to see that kinda thing at Red Rocks, though a small and intimate room where I am right up front ain't so bad either. Hope to do one or the other sometime soon.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:48 (ten years ago)
funny you mention gunn's vox because i noticed he has this phrasing thing he does ALL THE TIME where he ends a phrase kind of in the way dylan ends lines like "he not busy being born is busy DY-IN'" or "even the president of the united states must sometimes stand NA-KED" (like emphasizing the last 2 syllables of the line)
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:57 (ten years ago)
thanks guys! xposts
Yeah Death Kit Train is a good one for the processional I'd say, right?
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:02 (ten years ago)
pretty sure it was written for that express purpose
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:06 (ten years ago)
and re: gunn's vocals, he really does seem to have come into his own in that area -- sounded super confident/powerful last night (without losing his low-key charm).
xpost Wimmels, you might also wanta check that Duck Baker video I posted here a couple days ago, where he's playing "Blue Monk."
― dow, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:38 (ten years ago)
congrats evan, v jealous
realised I never got back to global re just intonation/unusual tunings. to get really commit you have to redo your fretboard and working in the already unpopular realm of modern composition that limits things a lot and I think there really are only a handful of guitarists playing this stuff, you're definitely in youtube videos with three-figure views territory. also this often seems to go hand in hand with theatrical vocals for reasons which remain unclear to me.
larry polansky has done some pretty interesting stuff, some of it super dry but this is a jaunty folksy one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yiZ8bzoSW4
and I really like this piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WuZ--ziRcE
this james tenney duo for two delicately out of tune guitars has some nice bits especially the gnarly final ten seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOP4Q6GEM48
if we're just talking wacky tunings there's some steffen basho junghans improv stuff with detuned guitars (not my favourite of his stuff but he has such a gorgeous touch he's always a pleasure to listen to) and while we're on the subject of more out there guitarists it would be remiss not to mention hans reichel who was amazingly inventive, had a very distinctive rich sound full of overtones, built loads of his own guitars (with strange features like frets right up to the bridge, guitars with fretboards either side of a bridge, harmonic capos) and was a genuine virtuoso in a way none of the guys we talk about here could come close to. one of my absolute favourite guitarists, in any top 3 I'd ever have to make, and horribly underrated; when he died there was pretty much a media silence it was so depressing
― ogmor, Saturday, 18 July 2015 22:05 (ten years ago)