Taking sides: John Lennon vs Paul McCartney

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he also did this one how's that for reconciliation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwp5mpJO2NA
I'll have to take my Tug of War out of the "for sale" bin and check it out, had no idea it had any quality material on it

niels, Thursday, 9 July 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link

many of my friends were crying, it's quite an emotional experience to see a Beatle live

niels, Thursday, 9 July 2015 09:52 (eight years ago) link

and how beautiful is the verse melody of My Valentine? very beautiful is what it is! would maybe have been more appropriate for folkish/psych lyrics but nevertheless beautiful https://youtu.be/f4dzzv81X9w

niels, Thursday, 9 July 2015 10:04 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

I distinctly remember Lennon himself mentioning in later interviews that visits with disabled fans brought out his worst side.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

This just in: "John Lennon had a dark side."

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

"John Lennon was just a complete c***! You don't take the p*** out of disabled ppl (sic)"

Wise words.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

That footage is in the Anthology -- Lennon does it at that Australia show, and at the Washington, DC show.

I distinctly remember Lennon himself mentioning in later interviews that visits with disabled fans brought out his worst side.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, September 20, 2015 1:03 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

These visits were also talked about in the Anthology; Derek Taylor called the situation "nightmarish" as the caretakers of the disabled fans were blatantly exploiting their charges as a means of meeting the Beatles (and it's implied these disabled fans were not being well cared-for). I think Paul said that John's mockery was the only way he could deal with it. Which doesn't excuse it, obviously, but this isn't new/news, and it seems far crueler without context.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 September 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

Seems like most people never made it past "Imagine" on their John Lennon Greatest Hits CDs.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 20 September 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

i saw Paul McCartney live in Duluth, GA recently (they named a street after him down the road from Cash Money Bonus Blvd) and it was a life changing show. i really feel bad for writing shit about him in ILX here and there plz forgive me Paul. it was a magical show at a relatively small venue (we had cheap seats but i could still see him on stage) and he played a lot of new stuff in between the old stuff. at one point he joked about it, how the crowd would go wild after all the Beatles songs and then it was much quieter for his newer stuff. lol. Blackbird was a very emotional moment, and he paused to talk about civil rights, and how he wrote this song in support of that. behind him for the acoustic portion there was a Southern style old house i got the feeling he was also trying to pay tribute to his musical roots. visually it was pretty cool and at one point he stood on part of the stage that lifted up and projected underneath was blackbirds flying over a sunrise and waterfalls and all kinds of stuff. he did Temporary Secretary

he paid a lot of cool tributes to the fallen Beatles. he did Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite with a crazy lazer show and really gaudy Cirque Di Solei style high end production psychedelia. he did We Can Work It Out with an accordion player. his band was very small, just 4 other guys, and one of them switched between keys and other instruments during the course of the show. it is funny, it was in a stadium but it felt very diy very garage rock. all the Beatles songs were very short, most under 3 minutes, so it was cool to hear a set that fast paced in a live concert hall setting. of course there was room for guitar solos and jams and sometimes they would pick up a song they just finished and jam for a bit. pretty cool. he really loves playing music! you can tell!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 July 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

for Temporary Secretary he had this kraftwerk style vector graphics and for Live and Let Die there was a Metallica-style stage show that would explode whenever he sang "Die" and it was as loud as indoor fireworks i lolled every time. it was cool to hear him tell stories, even if you have heard the one about Jimi Hendrix playing Sgt. Pepper a million times, to hear the person who was there talk about running into "Mick and Keith" it was fucking awesome and yes this is a huge part of the live show, seeing the Beatle tell these famous stories, for he is this living legend, who has lived this amazing life, and seen so much, and is a great storyteller.

he did Something on ukulele, and told a story of first doing this for George while they were hanging out at the Harrison's estate and it was really beautiful, it segued into a full band section at one point that was cool. he did one encore that included a rad Birthday. his voice was impressive throughout, only being a little weak during the high points of Maybe I'm Amazed, giving the performance a sense of self reflective nostalgia or wisdom or something else human and profound. at the end of the show he invited two groups of fans onstage to get autographs and introduce themselves. one girl showed up with a poster that told her parents she was coming out, and it was a very emotional moment, and Paul said some words in support and thanked her for coming to the show. then a family went onstage wearing matching Sgt. Pepper costumes that the mother had sewn (she told him she was a seamstress) and Paul singed them and thanked them for coming. the husband's name was Hank which was kind of eerie for me because my grandfather just passed this year and his name was Hank. it was very weird because they were a 4 piece family and i had gone to the show with my mom and two brothers. it really felt like an out of body experience.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

his band was very small, just 4 other guys

this is pretty cool

tong poo (da ba dee) (crüt), Friday, 21 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

I think he's had this band longer than the Beatles and Wings combined. He really stuck with what works (and his drummer, Abe Laboriel, Jr., is phenomenal).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 July 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I'll have to double check but I think he's had this particular live band since at least Driving Rain ... Abe Laboriel, Jr. does indeed rule!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

a family went onstage wearing matching Sgt. Pepper costumes that the mother had sewn (she told him she was a seamstress) and Paul singed them

what a dick

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 July 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

Seriously. Dude can't even put his spliff down for a second.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

Ha! Hasn't he knocked that on the head now?

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

I assumed he never stopped being a 'round-the-clock stoner, and may even still grow his own. Did he make noises about giving it up?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

Heather made him quit iirc

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

Ah, didn't know that.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

I think people - although not McCartney fans or music geeks - often forget just how huge of a stoner the guy was. The guy could probably have out-smoked the entirety of the average touring funk band at one point.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I mean, he basically had the farm in Scotland for the sole purpose of growing weed, didn't he?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

"They were sent to us by fans! We just planted them and uh... they came up that way!"

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

... and writing "Mull of Kintyre". (xp)

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

Thanks Westboro Baptist Church for the warm welcome! #OneOnOne pic.twitter.com/KZmycxMgq9

— Paul McCartney (@PaulMcCartney) July 20, 2017

global tetrahedron, Friday, 21 July 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

Hah!!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

My friend who DJs pre-show for Macca was out there, in his white suit and waving a rainbow flag.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 July 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

cool! he did a great job! it was a nice mix of Love-style remixes and classic 60s souls covers of Beatles material

xpost hah he played Let Me Roll It early in the set i bet it was a nod to the stoners in the audience

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 22 July 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

for Temporary Secretary he had this kraftwerk style vector graphics and for Live and Let Die there was a Metallica-style stage show that would explode whenever he sang "Die" and it was as loud as indoor fireworks i lolled every time. it was cool to hear him tell stories, even if you have heard the one about Jimi Hendrix playing Sgt. Pepper a million times, to hear the person who was there talk about running into "Mick and Keith" it was fucking awesome and yes this is a huge part of the live show, seeing the Beatle tell these famous stories, for he is this living legend, who has lived this amazing life, and seen so much, and is a great storyteller.

he did Something on ukulele, and told a story of first doing this for George while they were hanging out at the Harrison's estate and it was really beautiful, it segued into a full band section at one point that was cool. he did one encore that included a rad Birthday. his voice was impressive throughout, only being a little weak during the high points of Maybe I'm Amazed, giving the performance a sense of self reflective nostalgia or wisdom or something else human and profound. at the end of the show he invited two groups of fans onstage to get autographs and introduce themselves. one girl showed up with a poster that told her parents she was coming out, and it was a very emotional moment, and Paul said some words in support and thanked her for coming to the show. then a family went onstage wearing matching Sgt. Pepper costumes that the mother had sewn (she told him she was a seamstress) and Paul singed them and thanked them for coming. the husband's name was Hank which was kind of eerie for me because my grandfather just passed this year and his name was Hank. it was very weird because they were a 4 piece family and i had gone to the show with my mom and two brothers. it really felt like an out of body experience.


This is a great story, thx for sharing.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 7 September 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link

paul did the ukulele thing with "something" when i saw him at coachella back in, i think, 2009. it was gorgeous and moving and one of the concert experiences that really has stuck w/ me through all these years.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 September 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

apart from the half-assed lyrics, you can tell Drive My Car is a McCartney composition from the discrepancy between the mediocre melody and the all-time bass line

niels, Thursday, 6 September 2018 06:17 (five years ago) link

lmao

flappy bird, Thursday, 6 September 2018 06:51 (five years ago) link

Yeah fuck that guy

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 7 September 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link

How Do You Sleep? studio video

Brad C., Friday, 21 September 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

wow that's pretty awesome

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

yeah! a few months ago for the solo poll i was trying to hunt down any footage i could find of those sessions, so it's really cool to see this now. klaus voormann looks like he's falling asleep, ha!

i'm guessing this bit from the accompanying article - "What you do have on "How Do You Sleep? (takes 5 & 6)" is a brilliant slide guitar performance from the former Beatle George Harrison" - is referring to something on the boxset, not the video, because george looks like he's still trying to figure it out a bit

Karl Malone, Friday, 21 September 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

yeah I don't think that was the final take used on the released recording

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

Great video, thanks for sharing. They love cigarettes and Dr Pepper

flappy bird, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link

still waiting for McCartney to die (preferably in a public and horrible accident) so I can celebrate and piss off all the fucking awful hippies in my town who unironically listen to his worst Beatles tracks to this day

I hate him so much, more than any other musician I can think of except for the guys in Foreigner and Toto, and even they aren't as fucking annoying

so, yeah, Lennon.

sleeve, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link

absolute proof that we live in a world with no God is shown by the fact that Bowie died before McCartney

sleeve, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link

actually it proves the opposite, god clearly prefers to hear music live

flappy bird, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

sleeve calm down

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 22 September 2018 03:01 (five years ago) link

Yeah great take !
And Klaus V certainly hadn’t smoked only Gitanes...
As for McCartney haters, they shouldn’t wish for his death because when that day comes, he and his music will be inescapable in all medias for a little while !

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 22 September 2018 07:34 (five years ago) link

still waiting for McCartney to die (preferably in a public and horrible accident) so I can celebrate and piss off all the fucking awful hippies in my town who unironically listen to his worst Beatles tracks to this day

I hate him so much, more than any other musician I can think of except for the guys in Foreigner and Toto, and even they aren't as fucking annoying

so, yeah, Lennon.

― sleeve, Saturday, September 22, 2018 2:33 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know we all enjoy our internet hyperbole but please fuck off with wishing death on anyone because you don't like their music

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 22 September 2018 07:56 (five years ago) link

man those sessions rule, good jammin from all

niels, Saturday, 22 September 2018 08:46 (five years ago) link


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