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superchunk weren't emo!

Mr. Que, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

xposts

I mostly feel the same way, but I think I enjoyed some of those tail-end metal one-hits more than a lot of nu-emo singles. It was all middle-aged weirdos in jumpsuits, very cool.

Honorable Crossover Mention goes to Breaking Benjamin: "Post-Grunge, New Metal, Emo -- We're Uniters, Not Dividers"

Blink-182 = totally agreed, yeah. Older/different audience is probably true, but that's like the whole point -- there was some demographic moment there where the older nu-metal kid's TRL voting base was replaced by the slightly younger sibling's emo one! I mean, lots of what's prized in emo seems like a progression from what was going on in the rock charts just before, and lots of what's prized seems like a reaction to what was gonig on just before.

Superchunk became retroactively honorary-emo when like the 2nd or 3rd wave of emo just happened to sound like old Superchunk

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah I definitely thought at the time that big chart debuts for Dashboard and Thursday were flukes...and really, they were, since they haven't really remained as popular since then...they might've set the stage for 'emo' of a sort to go multi-plat but the bands that did sound absolutely nothing like them.

(xpost yeah Superchunk weren't emo, but no 'Chunk, no Get Up Kids)

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh man one-armed scissor i remember thinking that song was the shit

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

that was emo?? it sounded like talking heads

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

but no 'Chunk, no Get Up Kids

very very true!

Mr. Que, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I've actually been thinking about the lyrics to "Big Empty" a lot lately, because my girlfriend and I seem to hear it on the radio every time we'r ein the car together lately, and I recently had to explain to her that Weiland wasn't talking about a girl with a "daisy head".

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I remember around the time when "Take Me Out" and "Float On" came out, 99X started experimenting with its format and I actually heard them play a Polyphonic Spree song once (which was weird since in 2003 their playlist was like 90% Linkin Park, 10% Hoobastank) but then I think they rediscovered Audioslave and reigned things in a bit. But for a while there before that it sounded like things could go in any direction.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

'Chunk might not be part of the actual A-to-B continuum, but they're definitely keeping the stars aligned (or something).

David R., Friday, 27 April 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE FIFTY FIVE X-POSTS

David R., Friday, 27 April 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

haha "2004 in music" on Wikipedia:

New classic rock and New Wave-influenced bands such as the Killers begin to oust numetal bands.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

man when i worked at this furniture store they played 99x all day & i couldnt believe how awful and confusing it was

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Judging by the ORACULAR PREDICTIVE POWERS of Orgy, the turn-of-the-decade trend should actually be synthpop.

NOT judging by the OPPs of Orgy, the turn-of-the-decade trend will be some kind of tuneless bad-attitude Sum 41 replica with too many words and lots of bad puns that aren't entirely intelligible through all the "sucking in your cheeks like a fashion model" stuff.

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

'wait, the dude from my so called life has an emo band?? wait, 19 yr olds listen to sublime and dave matthews in 2007??'

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Still, if anyone wants to start a vaguely metallish stadium synth-anthem band and do stuff that sounds like "The Final Countdown" with heavier beats and spazzy pun lyrics about ex-girlfriends, I will gladly invest $50.

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

sold

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

btw curt1s they were all tech kids

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

they all lived in duluth with their parents and went to chilis on fridays

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Are people finally figuring out that current emo-pop has a lot more in common with HAIR-METAL than Nirvana and 90's Green Day?? Although modern Green Day is very much among their ranks today.

billstevejim, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

For example...

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This is nowhere to be found in FOB/MCR/P!ATD

billstevejim, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

WTF

billstevejim, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.greenday.net/images/whenicomearound.jpg

billstevejim, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think you're about 18 months behind the "guyliner" bandwagon to insinuate that that's an original observation, dude.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

its kinda exciting how baffling & unfamiliar this shit is to me

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Usually it's a bit like a hair metal band had sex with a Britpop band who wanted to be the Smiths.

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah well.. I'm still pissed about that ultragrrrl thing where she claimed MCR to be the next Nirvana.

billstevejim, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

i thought they were

Mr. Que, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

MCR could've been the next Nirvana before they decided to be the next Spacehog.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Never mind that the whole heavy metal continuum can be blamed / credited for the punk rock & the hair metal.

[oh ffs w/ the x-posting making my KOTO observations even more pointless]

David R., Friday, 27 April 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

MCR are the next ICP

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Look closer. They're Brett Michaels.

billstevejim, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Well I don't think she meant they were like sonic successors of Nirvana, just that they were what a certain age group had as "Important Formative Favorite Band" material. The main problems with that are that (a) their importance just isn't quite as broad, and I'm not sure anyone's could be the way media's fragmented now, plus (b) I find it hard to imagine any kids experienced MCR as some kind of left-field revolution, the way lots of kids seemed to with Nirvana in 91. (MCR came onto a field that already included lots of generally similar post-altrock stuff, whereas if you were watching MTV in 91 Nirvana would seem to have just popped up from nowhere.)

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

i think gnarls barkley are this generation's nirvana

and what, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/1036/emocharteb5.png

strongohulkington, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

moss icon! i forgot about them

Mr. Que, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Hell, I was already into "college rock" and punk in 91, and Nirvana still seemed to blow in kind of amazingly. It helped that the only other rock things I can even remember being on MTV and radio at the time were GnR and Metallica, the latter of which itself seemed to be crashing the party at first.

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

NO CAULFIELDS NO CREDIBILITY

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

that was way more exhausting than the first one btw

strongohulkington, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh snap if Colin Meeder were around to see that...

David R., Friday, 27 April 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

hee hee!

strongohulkington, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

i was kinda hoping he was

strongohulkington, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

One thing about the nu-metal to emo transition - the emo kids never seemed to get play on the same stations. Fall Out Boy, MCR, etc. are played in Top-40 rotation next to Akon and TI instead of on the stations that were all Limp Bizkit and Korn five years ago.

The alt-rock stations that went nu-metal (and thus active rock) are still stuck in the same cycle as far as I can tell, just another set of droney whiners have taken the stage.

milo z, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

NO CAULFIELDS NO CREDIBILITY

OMG

C0L1N B..., Friday, 27 April 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

You should throw that up on cafepress as a t-shirt, jess.

milo z, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

haha i might actually do a clearer, more hi-res version

strongohulkington, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

where does Jimmy Eat World fit in

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ooo, that's another question: is the push to capitalize on emo acts as Top 40 material going to lead to

(a) the creation of a fluid and unshackled new sound that revolutionizes popular music, or

(b) a bunch of awkward collaborations with rappers and hip-hop production teams that eventually embarrass the genre to death?

nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

it's already b, nitsuh!!

strongohulkington, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

your emo theorizing is at least six months out of date

strongohulkington, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)


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