Sex Pistols?

I think they were saying at the time or at least towards the end of it that the only notes that really count are the ones that come in wads.

That particular song was written and recorded about 18 months after Lydon had quit, a year after the first PiL record, and a few months after Sid Vicious was in his grave. It's part of the McLaren/Temple/Jones/Cook retrospective self-glorification cash-in that Lydon despises. I don't know anything about the Visa cards or why they are made but they seem to be on that continuum, rather than reflecting anything to do with the original band. Of course, that is part of their story too so who cares really?

Lydon has uh historically been a-ok w self-glorifying cash-ins.

and he's usually snarkily up-front about it! Insisting on calling PiL a corporation and not a band etc.

Someone on Twitter came up with the perfect slogan: "You don't know what you want but you know how to get it: the Sex Pistols Virgin MasterCard."

haha stealing that

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in... what's in your wallet?

Anarchy In The AMEX

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

AND I'M STILL BUYING

NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
BECAUSE OF MY WEALTH
MY BEAUTIFUL WEALTHY!!!

this thread is turning into a cheap holiday in other people's usury

maybe unfair

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Let's face it: in the long run, punk rock has really failed at most of which it apparently set out to do, didn't it?

didn't *hasn't

oh i dunno.

What did it apparently set out to do?

It set out to destroy the passer-by

well in that it succeeded. or did it? have your say in the comments

when the kids fly United, the airfares will be divided.

p much every musical movement "fails" at achieving non-musical goals

What kind of weirdo would get one of those cards

― JRN, Tuesday, June 9, 201

Urban Outfitter shoppers.

the monarchy still endures, but maybe it wasn't sarcasm and he really did mean it, man.

he never did get to go over the berlin wall, never understood that bit at all

No "Your future dream is a shopping scheme" jokes no cred

0/10

F-

No stars

i started thinking about making an 'is this the APR?' joke but

"I've got a card machine ready for you, baybeh"

OK, no more..

Oh Sex Pistols, they're like my favourite brand of t-shirt. They do a visa card? Booooring. I pay for everything with my weird mobile phone chip these days.

Or

40-60-something old punks who now wear ties to work.

Or

Who knows?

http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/why-it%E2%80%99s-time-to-say-bye-to-the-tie

For me the most important thing that punk did was open up possibilities of making music, expression etc... for a greater number of people. In this sense it.completely succeeded.

New vinyl boxset of 1976 concerts:
4th June – 1976: Lesser Free Trade Hall, Manchester
29th August – 1976: Screen on the Green, Islington
17th September 1976: HM Prison, Chelmsford
25th September – 1976: 76 Club, Burton on Trent

Probably no band ever been so well documented live (except Grateful Dead obv) so for diehards only I guess. First two mostly for historical documentation purposes. Chelmsford recording is great quality - the best recording of the Matlock era, and I don't think has been officially released with all it's tracks in the right order and without overdubs (but probably has), so that's good.

The 4cd box is £30, which seems steep..

Oh, didn't notice it was on CD. That's better. But yeah, silly price for CDs considering everyone who's likely to care has already heard it all before.

The other day I heard Did You No Wrong for the first time, they played it on satellite radio. I had no idea it even existed. What a fantastic song.

Yes, its a not of a lost b-side. Also "Sattelite" which didn't even make it to the "Flogging a dead horse" singles album for some reason.

Yes, it's a bit of a lost etc.

it's always bugged me that it's so hard to come by the handful of "real" sex pistols tracks that aren't on NMTB (i.e., sung by lydon, studio-recorded): "i wanna be me," "satellite," "no fun," "did you no wrong." those are fantastic performances that should've been tacked onto the one real album at some point as bonus tracks, not scattered across a bunch of crummy ripoff albums among those shitty ronnie biggs singles and malcolm mclaren spoken word tracks or whatever.

Those are all on Kiss This

Yeah, main reason for investing in it.

It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.

Glen Matlock at tail end of a tour? Could be a good idea for next Friday night at the Phoenix Artists Club in London?

https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/event/EIKEEJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7N9pFGqHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiUKJF16HZ4

Comment from six months ago says Steve Jones had a heart attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoJs2JSH9I

Jones has been recovering, though it required emergency surgery and like any heart attack survivor, he's had to make some adjustments. Interview where he discusses life after his heart attack.

Kinda sad re: his wife but also Lydon is sorta too online, for the worst.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/13/john-lydon-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-danny-boyle-the-queen

Skimmed quickly. Nothing other than what I’ve come to expect.

did anyone watch Pistol yet?

about halfway through. Watchable if you're not like totally hung up on historical accuracy and all like that.
I think I need to read the source book but have half wanted to for a while.
It's ok I guess, one of several things i'm trying to watch so not getting overly prioritised.

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

the steve jones book is very readable

Viv Albertine's first book is really good and has a different perspective on some of the characters here than I've heard elsewhere. Sid actually seems human.
Might make an interesting series if people get into doing things like this. But definitely one of the best memoirs I've read, think not just of this era.
Jordan's was quite good too.
NOt sure about John's 2 and has been a while since I read them.

give a middle finger to the establishment by wanking over her maj

nm I know I lose this game by even responding

at least I don't have to hear people who know better defending "bodies" these days

PIL's Facebook post:

God Save The Queen

John Lydon wishes to distance himself from any Sex Pistols activity which aims to cash in on Queen Elizabeth II's death. The musicians in the band and their management have approved a number of requests against John's wishes on the basis of the majority court-ruling agreement.

In John's view, the timing for endorsing any Sex Pistols requests for commercial gain in connection with 'God Save The Queen' in particular is tasteless and disrespectful to the Queen and her family at this moment in time.

John wrote the lyrics to this historical song, and while he has never supported the monarchy, he feels that the family deserves some respect in this difficult time, as would be expected for any other person or family when someone close to them has died.

RIP Nora Forster. John always repped for her in interviews, clearly his guiding light.

“I find it ironic that people like Damien Hirst and Tracey Emin talk about punk being a major influence. To me they’re Thatcher’s children, because they were put into power by Saatchi & Saatchi.” https://t.co/eg1ERJ95E9

— A S Hamrah (@hamrahrama) August 9, 2023

lol i mean the clue is in the word dude

rip but #ffs

Late to this - had no idea this show had been unearthed. Not an official release, unfortunately mixed on the fly (thus imbalanced) but a great performance nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iefy37rMe8o

I wish I could hear "Anarchy in the U.K." again for the first time. They, and it, seem so distant--more than many famous songs that are even older.

Yes. That Pistols miniseries wasn't going to be good, but I was surprised at how it couldn't even find a context to seem relevant. I think I watched one and a half episodes. How Chrissy Hynde ended up working at Sex seemed like a more intriguing storyline.

I'm not really a fan of Danny Boyle's work - more often than not, his films are terrible, and I didn't get the impression from anyone who saw the show that he exceeded even the most modest expectations. I can't remember if it was Jones or Matlock, but one of them apparently talked with Hynde over the phone after every episode and they were both flabbergasted how the show's depiction of her role in the band's history was drastically overblown and close to complete fiction.

Ha!

It’s not like their songs are even completely topical, yet they do feel like they’ve served their purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpQq_3D-IgM

Interesting to see Giovanni Dadomo, of the Snivelling Shits, playing devil's advocate there.

Yeah, Dadomo had gone from being a specialist soul writer at Record Mirror in 1975, to an early champion of UK punk at Sounds in 1976 - but when reviewing the 100 Club punk festival, and witnessing someone blinded in one eye by a glass thrown by Sid Vicious, he gave most of his review over to his horror at the incident, which in turn gives you context for the position he takes on Nationwide.

McLaren's an idiot, of course, but he talks a good game.

Just announced that Guns N' Roses is touring Europe next summer, and their openers are pretty surprising:

Public Enemy, Rival Sons...and the Sex Pistols with Frank Carter instead of Johnny.

I thought Glen Matlock had more interesting things to do.

Sex Pistons with Melba Toast Malone? pass

lmao

Not familiar with this Frank Carter but ilhe looks like the character Paul Kaye played in that Spunk mockumentary