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"Part of this conversation has been taken out because it’s fucking awful."

interesting concept, cutting what people wrote, I wonder if there's a word for it

almost as though the editor had no idea it was racist until pointed out

Vice's manifold cowardice is annoying me more than her idiocy tbh; she will suffer now, deservedly, but it won't

remember when everyone tried to convince me that Vice wasn't terrible anymore, or at least their music section wasn't like OG Vice

The racism is the one thing that actually makes that whole string worthy of publication, I'd assumed it was an expose but apparently quite the opposite. Then again I zoned out before the blacked out section because it was all just so trite and enervating.

xp suspect that in past years they would have simply ignored objections to something like this, for whatever you might think that worth

calling it trolling or a schtick is being too generous. she's an ignorant piece of internet shit who has no grounds to speak about the Diabaté family at all.

I saw AG Cook DJ at Field Day. It was a lot of fun but I realised halfway through that it wouldn't have seemed inappropriate if he'd played Eiffel 65's Blue. No ironic racism in his set though.

also had no idea til now that gfoty = polly-louisa salmon, daughter of celebrity art dealer jeff salmon

always bet on posh yt ppl for casual racism or the enabling of it

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cool joke

I guess the joke is thinking that an African band is influenced by an indie band instead of vice versa but the blackface reference doesn't make sense and when your whole persona is a vacuous, obnoxious hipster a joke that tricky isn't going to translate.

Still, it's an unambiguous apology. She could have gone for the classic "I am in no way racist and I'm sorry if anyone is offended" non-apology.

I don't like the implication that if a white band uses the highlife guitar sound on a few tracks it's cultural appropriation though.

where's that blowhard who got mad at me up-thread for calling them insincere

get fucked!

or, GFOTY is obviously the jester of the crew, they're not all like that, learn 2 differentiate

"the jester"

how come your defenses always come to applauding the worst behavior, imago, and loudly complaining about innocuous things?

"how could you possibly insult this contemporary modern collective of dreamers! they are doing so many very special things"

that's what you sounded like

and yes they are posh white art-school shitheads

the fuck have I applauded this, read my posts upthread, she's been a complete idiot, even if her point is that Bombay Bicycle Club are appropriators

'jester' is not necessarily intended as a compliment

I think her point is that she wasn't consciously screening her dialogue and this is her lens

FYI ILM has managed not to discuss Bombay Bicycle Club at all in like five years so please let's not start now.

crazy that someone in pc music is a monumental idiot

I will say I am impressed by the unambiguous apology but I'd be more impressed if the apology hadn't been necessary in the first place

but the apology is ambiguous. it doesn't say "we published something racist". it just says "we published something bad"

Doesn't DJP mean her apology rather than Vice's?

ah

Part of me is thinking that it shouldn't really be us that she's apologising to but to the Diabates

remember bombay bicycle club?

someday my grandkids will ask me where I was when gfoty sent a racist tweet that mentioned bombay bicycle club

feel like the diabetes dngaf about vice or pc music - can't even imagine this is on their radar

cmon mordy ppl need this story!

it was more gfoty tried to call bombay bicycle club out on racism, got her feet in a tangle and ended up shooting the racism ball past her own social media goalkeeper, just in time for the women's world cup, while vice acted like utter cunts about it all with no shred of propriety

Eh I was just thinking outloud about the dudes on Twitter going 'hey awesome apology' and speculating that it's not really up to them to accept it

Pissy music.

The rampant Tory persona was bad enough, the grotesquery just about made it surreal enough, this is fucking pitiful.

delightful, Morbsian, house, music xp

Jesus, LJ, don't try to make excuses. This is unfunny idiocy and even with the apology is fucking awful. She's a fucking idiot. I'm not going to suddenly be "oh no I hate PC Music and refuse to dance to it ever" but just let a terrible thing be a terrible thing without trying to justify it.

no i know! it's quite possible to be a complete idiot & a propagator of awful racist 'comedy' while the intention is quite different. she played with fire while covered in the petrol of unexamined privilege & got deservedly burned. or in your words, acted the fucking idiot.

i've said racially moronic things on ilx in my younger days & learned from it (thanks to ilx's unambiguous response). she will too (one hopes).

it doesn't matter what her intention is

turns out this music might not be so PC after all

okay lol

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oh haha i thought someone had registered that dn name for the sake of the gag but .. ru actually james brooks?

who's james brooks

lmao

*stands and applauds lotic*

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Ten Walls was probably as big as any European house producer among black British audiences - Walking With Elephants in particular gained traction in places you would never have expected an Innervisions related producer to.

But then he's not particularly high concept either and there was nothing ironic about what he said, he's just a bigot and a cretin.

lotic isn't talking about ten walls except as an aside?

He conflates them together in a few places and they shouldn't really be except as examples of basically inconsequential musicians saying bigoted shit.

pretty sure you can explore a concept and genuinely express emotion and/or feeling at the same time. There's so much false dichotomizing in this thread.

lotic's third para is seriously pissing me off

this binarising of music that is 'vapid and conceptual' and music that is 'reserved for genuine expressions of emotion and feeling' strikes me as terribly reductive and even dangerous, especially when there's an implicit parallel along racial and sexual lines

extremely dismissive ('merely a vapid art school project by a handful of rich kids') and maybe that's to be expected after an incident of racial idiocy and apparently unchecked privilege but this argument makes me deeply uncomfortable. i get that it's subjective but i also don't get how liking pc music is at the expense of real music by real poc or queers? plenty of listening to go around in 2k15