sun kil moon?

Well sure, but I'm just trying to show that Benji-era doesn't represent the vast majority of his otherwise stellar discography.

Nice track Evan. I like the My Bloody Valentine at 4:40 in Between Days

Yeah I always got that vibe from it as well.

"Between Days" is so great. a "Dancing Days" pastiche that somehow greatly surpasses the original

fuck is with this guy

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/04/i-interviewed-mark-kozelek-he-called-me-a-bitch-on-stage

He comes off like he's just been to some PUA asshole's negging seminar and is trying out his new-learned skillz

some unchill maroon

e harvey called him "indie rock's lester burnham" and it's a sad, well-fitting shoe

He comes off like he's just been to some PUA asshole's negging seminar and is trying out his new-learned skillz

― Frank 4ad (NickB), Thursday, June 4, 2015 2:19 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea or he just watched this sequence a bunch of times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbanWHx5AFQ

god that movie is so bad

Feel a bit bemused that anyone is surprised he is a * dick *.

god that movie is so bad

― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 4, 2015 2:48 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u r bad

"Surprise" doesn't seem remotely like the accurate verb to describe people's reaction to this

Or adverb WHATEVER

pretty weird self-destructo thing happening though -- w/o all of this hoohah, the dude would be coasting on some of the best reviews of his career (maybe even the best sales?).

Adjective, right? Embarrassing but I'd feel worse if I was pretending to be more cynical than people who think kozelek's trip is an increasing bummer

Hearing from a lot of people that he is very nice 1 on 1 and nobody is quite sure why he chooses to come off this way in a public setting.

More likely to get punched in the face 1 on 1

otm not as easy to say "It's a performance! I'm doing art!" when it's a 1 to 1 conversation

what happened to my kozelek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQWBTAt-xBI

buzz kil buffoon

As someone who knows virtually nothing about him he comes across like Ariel Pink to me, another resentful indie omega male puffed up by acclaim and turning that resentment outward as angry misogyny.

Too bad because a ton of his albums are nuanced and smart and mature. Such a discrepancy from this behavior. His latest album matches well though.

Kozelek is a manic depressive. It sounds like a hypomanic episode.

I don't think he is, though. He's been consistently, though increasingly, like this in a public setting for years. Even in the April-era you heard stories. And his lyrics have always revealed a potential for nastiness (e.g. the "mistress" character). What's puzzling is his apparent wish/compulsion to show off this side of himself in the limelight. However, it's reinforced by all the attention

Hmm this guy is obviously a complete shit but some of his friends think he isn't and also he sings songs

*thinks*

*thinks for ages*

Yeah, we should all probably stop wasting our valuable time on this particular thread on this vast internet music message board.

seems kinda shitty to me that P-fork didn't report on this incidnt at all, considering the 12 fucking pieces they posted on the Koz/War on Drugs "feud"...thing

Schreibs responded on FB.

I was 100% onboard with him calling a bunch of hip urban 'new south' concertgoers hillbillies, because I hate Raleigh & thought it was a deliciously well-aimed jab (cf that Ben Folds Five song about trying to cover up your redneck past) but everything since then has made me want to to karate-kick his cranky ass into a garbage truck

(Full disclosure: I have heard no RHP & very little SKM, so I was basically indifferent towards him at the time. Some of the RHP stuff posted itt are intriguing & I would maybe even have bought a record or two, if I didn't have infinite better things to do than give my money to shitheads)

* RHP songs posted itt

i think calling him 'cranky' is pretty generous

is it all that difficult to wrap your head around an artist being really good but also being a total asshole? why isn't this a tale as old as time

(obv many ppl are dropping into this thread just to say dude sucks, but rest of yall don't need to wring your hands so hard)

Well part of my problem is that he's making headlines for his bad behavior, then people want to see what his music sounds like so they listen to "The Possum" and wonder why he has any fans. And I'm over here saying "Wait! This isn't the same dude that I became a fan of- try Young Love instead!"

And then they can say "Oh so he's an asshole you can hum along with at times."

y'know, like Chris Brown

I don't see why anybody would want to engage in the sort of hairsplitting which characterizes most "good artist/bad person" debates when the artist himself seems to get a perverse thrill out of tying the hairs back together at the earliest opportunity

is it all that difficult to wrap your head around an artist being really good but also being a total asshole? why isn't this a tale as old as time

I don't think people are having trouble "wrapping their head around it" so much as taking the time to call out abusive public behavior. The internet and era of instance democratized communication is not a tale as old as time, try wrapping your head around that.

Usually we find out about artist behaving bad after I've heard a bunch of their stuff, often years after it, often years after that person is dead even. I imagine if John Lennon was pulling abusive stuff in the age of the internet he would be called out on it on a daily basis.

they have to phrase it as if everyone is a naive idiot pearl-clutching in shock rather than simply expressing disgust and disappointment, otherwise "i am capable of separating the art from the artist" would be a piddly thing to crow about

is this guy an alcoholic maybe?

i've been watching Vikings, and i think that he is a Viking maybe?

in his sleep maybe

Oh boy, sleaze! That's where he's a viking

he was well known to be in rehab as a teenager (for drugs) but i've never known alcohol be an issue with him, he's just been kind of a dick forever; it's more that his stature has risen to a point where people pay attention to his dickishness.

was he writing sadcore variations on g'n'rs "get in the ring" in 1995?

probably, they're just way more buried in metaphor

like, maybe he was always a meanie, but i'm still waiting for someone to actually pull up some notable quotes - let alone songs - from his first decade where he bullies people by their full name

No it's definitely more of a thing now. As far as I know the extent of his dickishness in the past was simply giving people in the audience a hard time.

like, maybe he was always a meanie, but i'm still waiting for someone to actually pull up some notable quotes - let alone songs - from his first decade where he bullies people by their full name

katy