Young Thug thread

it's silly to say lyrics are what young thug's all about when it's all but impossible to make out everything, even just more than the gist, of what he's saying. someone made the point upthread that "lifestyle" is his biggest hook to date and like a third of it is unintelligible. to really appreciate his lyrics you've got to listen a half dozen times and/or sit down to read a lyric transcription (which most of the time are incorrect anyway, q.e.d), at which point you've already been compelled by ~something else~ he's doing with his voice....so...

**all but impossible at first brush

Obsessing about Thug's ad lib game is just rock crit reletivism since he has 0 quotable lines.

This is the most ridiculous thing said in this whole debacle.

Whinegarten and soyrev are equally wrong, they sit at opposite ends of the spectrum of wrongness bc they actually agree and find the music illegible one just likes it as a part of his brand and the other is invested in saying the emperor has no clothes, both are wrong

i think young thug's obvious appeal despite a (relative) lack of quotable lines has a lot to do with what makes him so special. he's got lines if you listen closely, but point is he doesn't need him. guy's got quotable /yawns/ ("just might be")
--soyrev

your bolded bit is especially offbase b/c it just misses the point, they're both essential to what he is and does.
--soyrev

the lyrics are essential to what he does but he doesn't need them?

― een, Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:54 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is soyrev going at answer for this hypocrisy

haha yeah messy, though not contradictory. as i've said, i do think young thug has good lines, even if they're not particularly "quotable" -- you have to invest a little to find/understand them. so while he doesn't *need* lines, because he's such a charismatic stylist in general (one stand-out example being yeah, it is pretty incredible someone's casually found a way of incorporating an extended yawn into a compelling melody and rhyme scheme), they *are* essential to the entire thug package (i.e., he's got my attention, i'm delving deeper, hey yeah there're some great lyrics here too).

so: they're essential to what makes him as great as he is, but he'd still be one of the best going rn even were they all lazy throwaways and nonsense :)

your opinion is objectively bad and wrong

his lyrics really aren't that hard to understand! ffs

"baby can you feel my pain all my diamonds need to be drained"

WHAT??!??!

I have a more practical question about Young Thug: How does a mixtape dude get paid? I mean, guest verses aside and everything. Has he basically been living on signing-deal money for the last few years?

shows

"my car is rare like a mullet"

Yeah, I guess that would be most of it. Looking at his tour schedule, he's been on the road for most of the past year. I have no idea what someone at his level can clear on a given night.

ten points off for using "amidst" in a sentence.

The lines that noz is highlighting are certainly evocative but strike me more like Masta Ace saying "I got girls, but I would never bring sand to the beach" as opposed to Masta Ace saying "I project my voice so it's right in the crowd/There's a sign at the door: no bitin' allowed" if you smell me?

Like they're stuff you can sort of sit with an toss around if you were invested enough, as opposed to lines that take a life of their own? Like will some rapper in 5 years make some sly allusion to "my car is rare like a mullet?" or are we just beyond that being a measuring stick? Is Vineability the new "Hip-Hop Quotable" to the point where "lines" aren;t things you can see on paper or even repeat? If Missy Elliott dropped "Work It" today, would she be regarded as the greatest rapper of a generation?

not being confrontational, just thinking aloud, so please don't turn this into a dick-measuring contest, usual gaggle of twitter cats

Dog there are like a million possible lyrical styles and you're still trying to grade this on some sort of linear map of good -> banal -> bad

In the nineties the idea of saying young thug was a good rapper wouldn't be this same kind of fucking frightened suspicion, he has a particular rap style that is funny and unique, but you keep acting like it's somehow coming up short for you in some way when really you don't actually hear any of it!

You could stand here and say the exact same shit about Raekwon if you wanted.

"Rolling like trump you get your meat lumped isn't exactly no bitin allowed"

I like his particular rap style that is funny and unique! The disconnect is in most writing I see about him!

Like, I feel like the goalposts have moved very quickly in the last three years to where someone like Keef or Future or even Lil B could be talked about like "This guy is doing something outside the world of traditional rap as we know it, but it's interesting and can be appreciated thusly" to Young Thug just being blanketed as a king of feels and a visionary sculptor and the most gifted, forward-thinking contemporary rapper on the planet

One major difference is that when people quote Raekwon, it's stuff that rhymes.

The Young Thug quotes in this thread have been like evocative fortune cookies or Jordan stanning for something he can't even understand the words of

soyrev is spanish for "i am rev" btw stay woke

lol it stands for soy milk revolution

Whiney my man what do you have against fortune cookies

i'm not opposed to it, i'm just saying we're talking about yawns and adlibs and "crude pictographs"

I just think the very nature of how we approach and examine rap music is changing very fast

that's very true and probably why it's easier for you to stan for soemthing like 'sausage' over young thug? ; )

Like appreciating yawns and adlibs is a perfectly acceptable poptimist stance, but it's being written about from the primarilty rockist view of Thugger being the thelonious monk/orson welles of percussive yawps?

Whitney we all agree soyrev has trash opinions

hahahaha

anyone want scans/pictures of the pitchfork article that the picture above was taken from? i got a copy of the pitchfork review for free for buying p4k fest tickets (which i am now selling lol)

http://i.imgur.com/50o4m5G.jpg

who wrote that article?

brian david zarley

brian david zarley
BDZ
Brent De crescenZo

oh thank god no one i know *clutches chest*

what unmitigated garbage

in fairness to everyone being clowned itt, it's hard to talk about the 'how' of rapping

anyhoo the latest set of leaks is really good. 13 tracks or so---on the whole about as good as barter 6 i reckon.

is there a zip for those somewhere?

there've been several and they've been linked on this thread prior

the 100+ tracks leak (100+ including all the Quan ftr) linked upthread didn't include Spaghetti Factory or Hey I or a couple others mentioned recently but you'd have to be a neon battery-powered butterfly to stay on top of this

here's the new new ones

http://www86.zippyshare.com/v/mAmD2pNa/file.html

I have the old new ones. These are the ones I needed. Thanks.

Since we're speaking of quotability I feel like this needs to be posted:
https://soundcloud.com/whoisque/que-gucci-said-prod-by-sonny-digital

Something wrong with the pussy is one for the ages.

soyrev is spanish for "i am rev" btw stay woke

― k3vin k., Monday, June 1, 2015 11:04 AM Bookmark

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"something wrong with the pussy" is like an all-time line

i also like

Hopped out my mufuckin bed

that's a great memorable banality in a 90s tradition, imo

"something wrong with the pussy" is like an all-time line

― 龜, Monday, 1 June 2015 22:02 Bookmark

only together with the WAT? adlib tho

thelonious monk had no quotables

haven't listened to any of these leaks cos i'm still obsessed with barter 6. a lot of the small details & less obvious hooks took a few weeks to reveal themselves to me (compared with say 'who's on top') but now they are stuck in my brain forever.

Young Thug made it onto a Norwegian milk carton.

https://twitter.com/ashleyberkowitz/status/606891896699559936

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/790-an-interview-with-jojo-zarur-young-thugs-stylist/