♥☮☯♫ PC MUSIC ♫☯☮♥ ☺☺☺ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°✌

A lot of awesome points brought up in the Garvey piece but I disagree with some of it. PC Music is hardly a rehash of J-Pop and K-Pop, and it's something that's been said ever since it started and it seems to discredit everything else that plays a role in their sound. You look at the list of influences AG Cook lists in the Tank interview and it's really clear what sort of music fed into the creation of the general PC Music sound. Yes, K-pop and J-pop play a role (love that remix he did of SNSD's Into the New World) but you have pop that's characteristically naive and/or weird with Ark Music, Farrah Abraham, and teen pop in general (all of which I recall Alex Macpherson mentioning before), various unfashionable dance music (eurodance in general, jumpstyle, nightcore, happy hardcore), and even specific mentions of Zappa's synclavier stuff and Nancarrow's player piano pieces. And then you have someone like Maxo who is indeed influenced by Nakata-produced stuff (albeit it only really shows in recent releases) but takes far more from jazz fusion, prog rock, and of course chiptune/video game music. And then there's Danny L Harle who's classically trained, and has a handful of 20th-century classical influenced compositions which I'm assuming somehow effects how he approaches some of those remixes, at least structurally.

I'm a bit confused by the responses to the whole QT drink thing. PC Music's approach to tackling ideas surrounding capitalism, advertising, pop culture et al is less about avoiding it as a means to suggest an alternative route but more so an embrace of it to allow other people to think about it themselves. Also, I am pretty sure there is no way PC Music could've been nearly as popular at the beginning of the decade as they are now. Like, poptimism is in full swing with this new generation of underground music fans and it shows with the popularity of a few select albums from the past couple years, the embrace of cheesier music in general (think: all this recent love for new age [Gigi Masin has a freaking album on PAN for crying out loud] and soft rock), and then all the vaporwave/OPN/Ferraro/newer Orange Milk stuff. Maybe I'm completely misguided on that part but I can't imagine the response to PC Music in 2011 being the way it is now, even with Glass Swords and all that other stuff around back then (which, i mean, i feel was also only so successful because of the 'purple sound' stuff that came slightly before that).

does anybody else think that danny l harle's 'in my dreams' is fucking amazing

yes. he's the one.

he seems to be operating on an incredible level, and this is just the start

shocked, shocked i tell you, that one of these posh white people turns out to be a racist idiot

http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/gfoty-imessage-field-day-review?utm_source=noiseyfbuk

the relevant bit is now blacked out on that page

this is what it said:
https://twitter.com/theQuietus/status/607918655695945728

this was who was playing:

http://fielddayfestivals.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Toumani-Sidiki-Diabat%C3%A9-1-Youri-Lenquette-2014-300dpi-610x610.jpg

Toumani & Sidiki Diabaté

what the fuck

spelt carafe jesus woman

srsly tho that's v shit

she obv has a schtick that hinges on her knowing sabotage of the Young Woman 2k15 but this is a sabotage too far, not even the satirical excuse covers it

also, fuck Vice

Yeah, she's meant to be a troll but you can be a troll without actually enacting racism. What she is is a fucking wanker and this is gross.

"Part of this conversation has been taken out because it’s fucking awful."

interesting concept, cutting what people wrote, I wonder if there's a word for it

almost as though the editor had no idea it was racist until pointed out

Vice's manifold cowardice is annoying me more than her idiocy tbh; she will suffer now, deservedly, but it won't

remember when everyone tried to convince me that Vice wasn't terrible anymore, or at least their music section wasn't like OG Vice

The racism is the one thing that actually makes that whole string worthy of publication, I'd assumed it was an expose but apparently quite the opposite. Then again I zoned out before the blacked out section because it was all just so trite and enervating.

xp suspect that in past years they would have simply ignored objections to something like this, for whatever you might think that worth

calling it trolling or a schtick is being too generous. she's an ignorant piece of internet shit who has no grounds to speak about the Diabaté family at all.

I saw AG Cook DJ at Field Day. It was a lot of fun but I realised halfway through that it wouldn't have seemed inappropriate if he'd played Eiffel 65's Blue. No ironic racism in his set though.

also had no idea til now that gfoty = polly-louisa salmon, daughter of celebrity art dealer jeff salmon

always bet on posh yt ppl for casual racism or the enabling of it

http://i.imgur.com/GJGDgec.png

cool joke

I guess the joke is thinking that an African band is influenced by an indie band instead of vice versa but the blackface reference doesn't make sense and when your whole persona is a vacuous, obnoxious hipster a joke that tricky isn't going to translate.

Still, it's an unambiguous apology. She could have gone for the classic "I am in no way racist and I'm sorry if anyone is offended" non-apology.

I don't like the implication that if a white band uses the highlife guitar sound on a few tracks it's cultural appropriation though.

where's that blowhard who got mad at me up-thread for calling them insincere

get fucked!

or, GFOTY is obviously the jester of the crew, they're not all like that, learn 2 differentiate

"the jester"

how come your defenses always come to applauding the worst behavior, imago, and loudly complaining about innocuous things?

"how could you possibly insult this contemporary modern collective of dreamers! they are doing so many very special things"

that's what you sounded like

and yes they are posh white art-school shitheads

the fuck have I applauded this, read my posts upthread, she's been a complete idiot, even if her point is that Bombay Bicycle Club are appropriators

'jester' is not necessarily intended as a compliment

I think her point is that she wasn't consciously screening her dialogue and this is her lens

FYI ILM has managed not to discuss Bombay Bicycle Club at all in like five years so please let's not start now.

crazy that someone in pc music is a monumental idiot

I will say I am impressed by the unambiguous apology but I'd be more impressed if the apology hadn't been necessary in the first place

but the apology is ambiguous. it doesn't say "we published something racist". it just says "we published something bad"

Doesn't DJP mean her apology rather than Vice's?

ah

Part of me is thinking that it shouldn't really be us that she's apologising to but to the Diabates

remember bombay bicycle club?

someday my grandkids will ask me where I was when gfoty sent a racist tweet that mentioned bombay bicycle club

feel like the diabetes dngaf about vice or pc music - can't even imagine this is on their radar

cmon mordy ppl need this story!

it was more gfoty tried to call bombay bicycle club out on racism, got her feet in a tangle and ended up shooting the racism ball past her own social media goalkeeper, just in time for the women's world cup, while vice acted like utter cunts about it all with no shred of propriety

Eh I was just thinking outloud about the dudes on Twitter going 'hey awesome apology' and speculating that it's not really up to them to accept it

Pissy music.

The rampant Tory persona was bad enough, the grotesquery just about made it surreal enough, this is fucking pitiful.

delightful, Morbsian, house, music xp

Jesus, LJ, don't try to make excuses. This is unfunny idiocy and even with the apology is fucking awful. She's a fucking idiot. I'm not going to suddenly be "oh no I hate PC Music and refuse to dance to it ever" but just let a terrible thing be a terrible thing without trying to justify it.

no i know! it's quite possible to be a complete idiot & a propagator of awful racist 'comedy' while the intention is quite different. she played with fire while covered in the petrol of unexamined privilege & got deservedly burned. or in your words, acted the fucking idiot.

i've said racially moronic things on ilx in my younger days & learned from it (thanks to ilx's unambiguous response). she will too (one hopes).