pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Yeah but she's 53

Has music writing period created a bill Simmons like character since ... Chuck klosterman? Serious q

Who it should be noted doesn't even write about music

Any more

We're in a doomed and dying industry, no one cares about your opinion and good taste is worthless; people rely on those already in their network for recommendations, or maybe a spotify compilation. The functional purpose of music writing at this point is news writing, celebrity writing, and that's ... Literally it. At least as far as a large audience is concerned. All you can really do is be a good enough writer that people want to read you on those grounds by building your own micro audience

I don't know that I even 100% believe that but i think having any expectations beyond that could only lead to disappointment

have you considered law school?

Not even for a second

Im being a lil flippant ppl care about your opinion and good taste isn't really worthless, it's all just scaled down drastically

Virtually no one, not actually no one

The functional purpose of music writing at this point is news writing, celebrity writing, and that's ... Literally it.

I think this is otm actually, which is why so much "music" writing these days has little to nothing to do with actual music and mostly has to do with the artist's narrative/story arc (to which music is an incidental element)

which bugs me personally but it is interesting in terms of audiences and how they consume music - the stories that interest audiences are no longer really in the songs themselves, they're in the career arcs of the performers (which can be made up of songs + other stuff)

maybe it was always that way, to some extent, and it's just been accelerated/taken to extremes given the explosion of digital content idk

The functional purpose of music writing at this point is to create places on the internet where an artist's name appears, and then trick people into clicking on it

ok but why people click on it is only partly about the music, it's more about "I am interested in the story of this person's life"

then why are 95% of music features about boring people?

whiney, do you think deej would make a good lawyer, y or n?

well, boring is relative

xp

i don't think any judge would tolerate his constant defense of "why are you all attacking my client all the time?"

lol

i think his persistence and semantic focus would make him a good lawyer

like, i think he'd be good at cross-examinations

no, u right

deej can fight to get rappers out of jail after pitchfork and noisey get them locked up

the hemiola defense

then why are 95% of music features about boring people?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, May 29, 2015 4:48 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bc this industry wastes lots of money

thank god

The functional purpose of music writing at this point is to create places on the internet where an artist's name appears, and then trick people into clicking on it

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, May 29, 2015 4:42 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is of course true but getting those clicks is thru ... new writing & celebrity writing. I guess there is also provocative thinkpiece writing that we all hate 99% of the time

does anyone else ever see threads like this beginning circa 2002 and suddenly realize its 2015 and that its been a thirteen year discussion and feel like what

tbh i think its stupid as hell that this thread keeps getting bumped, like can't we just stick all this stuff on worst new music thread if its really that bad/worth complaining about

its not bad writing its bad thinking

i mean its also bad writing but thats sort of a given

Yeah but try being a musician now. I'm just resigned to doing this shit after my 9 to 5

The functional purpose of music writing at this point is to create places on the internet where an artist's name appears, and then trick people into clicking on it

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, May 29, 2015 4:42 PM (42 minutes ago)

I said something like this almost verbatim to a student a couple weeks ago but I remembered all those times Details ran cover stories on Stephen Dorff and Skeet Ulrich, i.e. it was ever thus except the paychecks are smaller.

so you're saying we should rename that other thread the 'bad thinking' thread? a lot of ilx would end up posted there

the dorff years were bleak. the sobieski plague another low point. thanks a lot, Interview Magazine.

aw, man, now i miss Movieline.

i used to make tape recordings of me reading Movieline interviews back in the 90's. i would play both parts. interviews with jason priestly and people like that. it was fun.

remember when skeet ulrich was on the law & order los angeles reboot

God 2015 sucks

...from the perspective of someone who doesn't write music reviews, i mean, and (evidently) doesn't write well in general. i guess now it's kind of expected to just acknowledge that it's easier and faster for people to just listen to a song and form their own opinion rather than read several paragraphs describing a song. to be annoyed by that is annoying to others. but i hate the direction that music journalism is going. 30 years ago had got g. marcus suggesting cool shit for you to listen to, now you get a link to a bandcamp and hopefully a few farting suggestions as to what it might sound like. however, i recognize that i also hate the direction that humanity is going and i'm totally ready to just move to the mountains and make moonshine and be even more irrelevant. *barf on self, barf on world, barf*

i used to make tape recordings of me reading Movieline interviews back in the 90's. i would play both parts. interviews with jason priestly and people like that. it was fun.

― scott seward, Saturday, 30 May 2015 01:26 (3 hours ago) Permalink

Lol

30 years ago G. Marcus could kick a ball in the street

you need to upload those tapes scott

my embarrassing "living in the middle of nowhere so what're you gonna do for the next three hours" hobby was using a pin to outline photographs in tv guide and then shining a light through the back to ILLUMINATE THE STARS

At last this thread is where it should be.

best mime rock review ever!

https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/l/t1.0-9/11402682_10153981051017137_2468195060696685329_n.jpg?oh=4350c48b5d706ab9fd2daf0c7bb78d4b&oe=55EE9ABA

https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11230653_10153981051177137_900644611352412645_n.jpg?oh=914c21a0ba98aff5d13d4a977c8576d2&oe=55F040C4

you just KNOW this person wanted to hate this place but they ended up liking it and got to hear a great captain beefheart song they'd never heard so they end up having to make fun of doritos.

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/820-i-went-to-james-murphys-new-wine-bar-and-all-i-got-was-more-confused-about-the-state-of-the-music-industry/

also, that live LCD video freaked me out cuz i'd never seen that guy in area rock mode and the song is so weird! arena pomp city. i was trying to think of what it reminded me of and i drew a blank. like U2 mixed with some madchester band. plus, the video is totally shot like a commercial.

that article is poorly written

that article is poorly written

I think Hopper has been too busy with book tour and interviews to do any actual editing of Pitch submissions. Either that or she's a really bad editor.