Gender-fuckery, c/o Roz:
http://s21.postimg.org/65yur3non/BIGBANG2.png
Generally men wear blue, women wear pink on this talk show:
http://images.hanbeat.com/data/images/full/14663/happy-together-3-ep-366.jpg?w=750
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link
Also here's Taeyang on why he likes wearing women's clothing, and other issues related to fashion, art, and cooking:
http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/15826524.html#comments#comments
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 21 May 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link
it's a little weird how much their personalities have merged over the years - some parts of that interview sound like TOP talking, other parts like GD. and honestly, Taeyang was NOT the bigbang member i expected to talk about wearing women's clothes so extensively, it's pretty great.
also, name-dropping Miriam Schapiro! <3
― Roz, Thursday, 21 May 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
I was thinking exactly the same, he's become a mashup of GD and TOP lmao but no one else has talked about their love of cooking shows yet!
When you starting getting into cooking, gardening, and home decorating, that's when you know you're getting old.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 21 May 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
forapper, do you remember that discussion we had a few years ago where we were trying to figure out whether GD's love of skirts was a genuine form of genderplay, mere fashion-forwardness or just trolling (or a combination of the three?). Taeyang's interview feels a bit like a response to that. I mean, here we have arguably the most masculine (in the traditional sense) member of BB saying that he likes wearing women's clothes because he thinks they neutralise his masculinity, plus buying feminist art, and admitting to loving flowers and cooking - it all adds a few extra layers to the discussion.
there's a part of me that still can't quite believe that all of this is coming from the current biggest Asian boyband in the world who hail from what is still one of the most patriarchal societies in the region. Let's not deny that BB have always been a deeply problematic band, but I love how their fashion-forwardness + penchant for breaking rules have ended up with them actively fighting rigid gender norms in both mainstream pop and Korean society in general.
― Roz, Friday, 22 May 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link
Maybe... we had a lot of discussions, lol. I don't think you have to classify it, but GD's been sending these messages for literally years so whatever's going on is probably pretty deep-seated.
Taeyang on the other hand is right about neutralizing his masculinity, lmao. It's better for artists to be kind of androgynous, right? Just being manly would be boring.
Speaking of Big Bang merging into one being though, Taeyang seems more open than he used to be while GD seems much MUCH more religious... refer to that MV analysis you sent me.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 22 May 2015 02:35 (nine years ago) link
excellent teaser image for round 2:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/9792ca1af3aa5d99c69e26787c77636c/tumblr_nozgqvkEAO1qzjb8ko1_1280.jpg
― Roz, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 02:14 (nine years ago) link
: ) : )
― 龜, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link
Sudden flashbacks to Coup D'Etat
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 28 May 2015 02:06 (nine years ago) link
I know you guys are talking about it in the k-pop thread but i'm not caught up yet
did anybody else think they were taking some cues from mad max for the BANG BANG BANG vid? haha
― 龜, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 13:26 (nine years ago) link
Yes, and the MV was shot like 2 weeks ago so that could totally have happened.
We could even relate it to the title of this thread (if we stretch), since the new Mad Max has all these markers of hyper-masculinity BUT is feminist.
Also, the woman chained to GD in their master-slave scenario is Parris Goebel, the MV choreographer(!!).
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link
Of course, the song still sucks.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link
This is amazing though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=81&v=i8MSB1KWluc
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
From the top!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8MSB1KWluc
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
wouldn't be surprised since mad max totally fits big bang's desert apocalypse aesthetic (love song, fantastic baby, monster, coup d'etat).
patiently waiting for a BB dance cover now that Seungri's tweeted that Kara mashup video (it won't happen but a girl can dream...)
― Roz, Thursday, 4 June 2015 01:26 (nine years ago) link
Seungri, alone, can cover it for comedy value during one of their concert interludes.
It can happen!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 4 June 2015 01:59 (nine years ago) link
live stage upping the mad max vibes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itc1IWddUxo
Both songs sound 10x better live but that's almost entirely down to BB clearly having too much fun onstage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ1nX7tt3H4
― Roz, Thursday, 4 June 2015 12:14 (nine years ago) link
OMG that cowboy hat hahahahahaha
― 龜, Thursday, 4 June 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link
Iunno I think Bang Bang Bang is still boring and lazy live.
We Like 2 Party is improved though, nice n relaxed, good enough for an album closer or extra.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 5 June 2015 00:07 (nine years ago) link
If they're gonna be uninspired, they might as well go for this kind of drunk-shouty-lazy-relaxed beach vibe, and not force it.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 5 June 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link
Going for One Direction exactly in the MV (the hotel room scenes are kinda weird with no extras though):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFmfi1vM7co
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 5 June 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link
i dunno, i thought there was something nice about the fact that they left the models behind for once.
― Roz, Friday, 5 June 2015 00:51 (nine years ago) link
sort of the reverse of SHINee's summer fantasy in View.
― Roz, Friday, 5 June 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link
I don't believe Big Bang hangs out together in hotel rooms :p
Apparently they filmed those scenes in the studio tho, must have been super cheap
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 5 June 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
the inflatable pool animals remind me of fetish vids haha u_u
― 龜, Sunday, 7 June 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link
Bang3x has totally grown on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d7Oj3PZIco
Also I prob should have checked the lyrics earlier lol but there's actually a line about Valhalla in there, so yeah definitely right about the Mad Max refs haha. makes me wonder how late this song was recorded in order to fit that line in. (of course, they could have known about the concept of Valhalla before MM, but it's too much of a coincidence.)
― Roz, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:32 (nine years ago) link
I get the good part of the song stuck in my head all the time lol
― 龜, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:36 (nine years ago) link
Still hasn't grown on me, I cringe every time the chorus comes on LOL
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link
Of course, there's still time between now and September for them to tweak the instrumental a little bit
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 11 June 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link
This is cute tho:
https://instagram.com/p/3qeu-Nh5TY/?utm_source=partner&utm_medium=embed&utm_campaign=video
― hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 12 June 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
the lead up to the chorus best part of both bbb and party
― 龜, Friday, 12 June 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
The reverse of that KARA mashup video is just as entertaining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVcfmp7h8Vo
― Roz, Sunday, 14 June 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
There are some girlgroup-looking moves in there LMAO
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 14 June 2015 01:32 (nine years ago) link
And 2PM sounding like a mix of themselves and TVXQ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pFB1dCSo4
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 15 June 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
Whoops, wrong thread.
ahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95JFW2eHtM
this makes me sad I'm not going to their KL gig, but the tickets cost 1/8th of my paycheck. u_u
― Roz, Sunday, 21 June 2015 14:03 (nine years ago) link
lol
― 龜, Sunday, 21 June 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
Was going to the NJ leg with a friend, but we got Sunday (a school night) by mistake so I might have to sit it out :/
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 21 June 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
both of the new songs are bad
― 龜, Thursday, 2 July 2015 14:17 (nine years ago) link
i like 'sober' as much as any of the others excepting 'bae bae'
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 2 July 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
it seems weird that they're simultaneously trying to go for this wild heterogeneity of style and sticking with one producer, and i don't know how i feel about it
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 2 July 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link
This is in the other thread, but here's Sober with subtitles so we can think about how any other idol group would be pilloried for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0eT9omRQS0
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 00:28 (nine years ago) link
Damn youtube's autoplay, the ballad is criminally underwritten... Here's Sober (also underwritten but hey, I still like those MGMT synths):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvJ40aW0-zM
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 00:30 (nine years ago) link
And I think I'm over my embed allowance but Daesung's drumming is really quite good, on par with Sunmi's guitar skills:
https://youtu.be/qoies3-r1HM
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 00:32 (nine years ago) link
if that WG teaser is a straight take (and it very well might not be) then sunmi's better at bass than daesung is at drumming, but this is a pleasant surprise. he sounds very likely better than Yubin, though i guess he's doing a much slower/simpler solo here than the one she tries in her teaser
― soyrev, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link
It sounded more complicated to me, or at least flashier, but I only know Rockband drumming.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
At least it explains the hair - dude clearly taking a page from the Muppets
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
Well not only is Zutter a certified jam, the live version of "Let's Not Fall In Love" sounds like it could have been on one of their earlier albums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nNoS2TstqVk
I liked "Lonely" and "Bae Bae" but this release is a very close second... throw the middle ones away, or better yet recruit the live band to re-record them.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoS2TstqVk
still regretting not going to see them in KL last month :/
― Roz, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 06:28 (nine years ago) link