"John Bonham is the best drummer" ever sez Stylus

have you ever seen their teeth? yikes.

they aren't out of fashion they just released that bumps record

i like how no one is refuting bonham being the (rock) best drummer ever. because he is.

wtf, u2 cure rem? uh...no. and i <3 JD and NO, but morris just two spots behind jaki is ridiculous.

I would've put Moon above him, but I'm not mad at Bonham being on top instead.

teh brits have a really poor track record with rock drumming after punk </carducci>

Fuck yeah, Jim White!

That Bozzio thing is intensely tedious.

it's fricken bozzio man

I don't actually know who that is.

sigh

bumps is pretty much exclusively for drum geeks and home producers. It's neat, but I don't think it's made post-rock cool again

Picture thread: Your favorite drummer

guys bill berry actually is a really good drummer

he is awesome

He's certainy more interesting a drummer than Larry Mullen Jr.

Hell, Berry playing the bongos on "Low" is more interesting than Mullen's entire career.

didn't really like the list overall. tho Larry Mullen is hardly the worst drummer in rock, he's come to epitomize the kind of guy who makes it on the cover of drumming magazines so drumming magazines can sell more issues.

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So, no WTFs for John Densmore?

I thought that, but I've retired from arguing with Doors fans.

also let's shed a tear for doug clifford

I thought that, but I've retired from arguing with Doors fans.

Haha, my reaction to seeing him was like "WHAAA...I don't have the energy anymore"

steve goulding, jim keltner, jeff porcaro...

jim gordon

also: tired of hearing about Charlie Watts

jim gordon
definitely

Notable omissions for me include Jim White, John McEntire, and Andy Ramsay.

I know this is changing the rules of the game, but it'd be cooler to have a list of greatest under-sung drummers or something like that, and allow some space to the Clem Burkes and Steve Gouldings of the world.

Bill Berry wrote a lot too apparently, including Everybody Hurts.

Where was Todd Trainer?

Larry Mullin might be the richest guy on the list

Mullen

stewart copeland's loaded, ain't he

haha speaking of rich assholes, phil collins is unfortunately better than many of these jokers

Cutty how is Bumps??

For a punk band, Joy Division were bizarrely democratic
Does this make any sense???

Drum geek sick chops youtube thread

I read that Hal Blaine had been very rich at his peak, but overspent and then lost most of his wealth as studio work dried up in the 80s

I remember he used to stamp his charts so there would be documentation that he had played the session. He also asked for a gold record if the record was a hit, but I think he had to sell most of those.

Throw 50 drummers against a wall and a few will stick. This least is really, really weird.

The not-really-rock inclusions (Zigaboo, Tony Allen, etc.) are kind of funny, like "good drummers that indie dudes like too!".

Bah! Dumb hipster list put together by someone who obviously doesn't play drums.

Add: Pete DeFreitas, John Maher, Mel Gaynor, Clem Burke

"someone who obviously doesn't play drums."

What's that got to do with anything?

"Years ago I had dozens of Roses bootlegs"

Ouch! no wonder your ears are so sensitive these days, nick!

paul thompson was fucking awesome on those early roxy records
stylus blows

bumps is a lot of fun, nothing really serious--nice ethnic rhythms all tortoise-d out. the drum sounds are really mental.

otm re:

phil collins, he's the closest thing to jaki liebezeit we've got in those early genesis records. he kills it!

paul thompson HITS HARD

Crazy Phil "Fill" Collins = http://www.philcollinsfansite.com/images/brand-x.jpg

Yeah, I feel the same about Bumps - but I don't think they set out to make anything more than a collection of sweet drum breaks, and that's pretty much what it is.

As a drummer, I always find non-drummers'/non-musicians' (big assumptions, there) opinions on what they perceive to be good/impressive drumming highly interesting. There are some interesting choices on the list. That said, it is appalling. I suppose a list should spark discussion if it is to be worth compiling (and I know it's Stylus Magazine's 50 Greatest Drummers in Rock) ; but you know, there are interesting, illuminating, distinctive choices and dumb distinctive choices -- and when you place Gary Young ahead of Billy Cobham (if he is even going to be included in your "rock" drumming list) or Topper Headon in front of Al Jackson Jr., that's just insulting. Was this list compiled/decided by votes (probably)?

I'm really not trying to adopt some superior muso, Dream-Theater-fan (I'm not, btw -- at all), tone with those observations, but there are some, seriously, merely/barely competent, not to mention boring, drummers on there at the expense of many icons who anyone who writes about popular music should be aware of (and who deserve inclusion). I mean, how do you leave guys like Steve Gadd, Jim Keltner, and Jeff Porcaro off of that list (especially all of them)? Are you just too hip to include them? If you can include Hal Blaine (who I believe should be there, yes), you can include Gadd, whose influence is enormous. Gadd should probably be on there for "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" alone: maybe you don't care for the tune, but have you ever listened to the drum part?; do you understand how unusual it is -- what kind of part would you come up with, or expect someone to come up with, for that song?. And as stupid as it is to argue over a list (and assert, essentially,"I disagree with you, so you're wrong!"), I just think that not including someone of Gadd's stature (as stated, he's not the only glaring omission) is a pretty lame.

But I can't argue with Bonham for the top spot, either.

#1 = Carmine Appice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71cGLyOKhSc

NEVER FORGET.

and when you place Gary Young ahead of Billy Cobham
I drew a sigh of relief for Ziggy that he wasn't behind Gary Young, even though he only beat him by one slot.

I didn't even read the list as being in any kind of order, that would have driven me crazy for sure.