No, sorry, I just expressed myself badly - I think / agree that (with the notable exception of the album God In Three Person, which isn't represented on the comp.) there is a distinct overall downward trend between about 1980 and 1997 (when Our Tired Our Poor Our Huddled Masses came out)
"So how would more recent music correct this impression, as you suggest?"
I think 1998's Wormwood and 2002's Demons Dance Alone are major returns to form both in terms of both quality and "relevance" (or, at least, contemporaneity).
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 January 2005 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Early tapes make it clear that they actually can play instruments, they just made a point of taking instrumental technique apart at the exact moment the rest of pop was calcifying into stadium rock gloss & empty virtuosity. Taking the formulas of glossy, shallow pop, and making it all gloriously ugly and wrong, but still recognizable. And sometimes, so utterly, bafflingly wrong that it comes out far more mysterious and beautiful.
Beautiful Residents: Not Available, Eskimo and "Six Things To A Cycle", the main theme of which is probably my favorite thing they've ever done.
― (Jon L), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.theresidents.co.uk/articles/books/art_cutler.html
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― a, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)
An extraordinarily large number of people have described Trout Mask Replica as ".... possibly the worst album I've ever heard"; so it's entirely possible that - at least as far as I'm concerned - your description may be the highest possible accolade.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
It goes for upwards of $50 used when you can find it these days, I should have xeroxed my friend's copy...
http://www.rzweb.org/books/sonic.html
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― don, Thursday, 20 January 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― (Jon L), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)
40-something rock critics are loving the album though, so who knows. (I don't think most Residents fans are 21 years old.)
― a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Because I have a great friend/Residents fanatic whose musical taste is very different from mine but with whom I share a lot of likes, I've heard a ton of Residents music over the years. I still find it, no matter how eloquently he defends it, puerile.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 25 February 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)
I think you're probably right - indeed, I suspect that the reason the last couple of Residents' projects (Wormwood, Demons Dance Alone) have shown such a long overdue return to form is that they did seem to have stopped trying to produce all-singing all-dancing fully-integrated multi-media conceptual arts projects, and were just concentrating on making music for it's own sake again.
Let's hope Animal Lover doesn't represent a step in the wrong direction.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Besides Buster and Glen (have it also on a 3 incher in the euro ralph 2fer) I haven't really heard anything else. What do I need NOW? Is this the catchiest stuff? I really have no idea. To me it's THE monolith of fucked avant rock.
The Commercial Album sounds interesting...
― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)
But if you're loving this, you can't go wrong with any of the albums released 1980.
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Fingerprince, Not Available, Third Reich and Roll -- 100% guarenteed
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)
my favorite is Not Available. whenever one of the other ones isn't busy being my favorite.
I remember the first time I heard 'the executioner', when the guitar solo kicked in, I remember being so repulsed and horrified that sitting there thinking 'this is the ugliest music I've ever heard in my life, do I really want to go here? do I even want to be someone who owns this record?' then the guitar faded into the funeral march and it was too late
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― -the-night-watch- (-the-night-watch-), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― @@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)
which album would you recommend to someone interested in them because of the Tuxedomoon connection?
― baaderonixx, Friday, 13 June 2008 14:29 (eighteen years ago)
Can't help you, never heard Tuxedomoon
― Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 14:30 (eighteen years ago)
A friend mentioned Residents to me recently and it occurred to me I've never actually tried to listen to their stuff before, which struck me as a bit odd. I just know them from bits I heard on college radio.
― Bimble, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:16 (eighteen years ago)
you pretty much can't go wrong with any Residents album 1972-1980. for tunes try either Duck Stab or Commercial Album. for concept albums try Fingerprince or Third Reich and Roll. Not Available is the emotional one.
you know what's good out of the recent stuff? Tweedles pulls off the whole literally stated narrative project they've been trying since God In 3 Persons -- but the music is better and the narrative's honed down to the ugliest essentials, I think it's the best thing they've done in 15-20 years.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 13 June 2008 18:51 (eighteen years ago)
Anyone know where I can hear The Bunny Boy? Prindle reviewed it today but I can't find a single place to download/stream it. Strongly debating whether catching them on the upcoming tour is worth the money.
― Reatards Unite, Saturday, 23 August 2008 19:21 (seventeen years ago)
for archeologist fans of 'Santa Dog' curious about sample sources: http://closetcurios2.blogspot.com/2008/11/concert-percussion-for-orchestra.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadeo_Roldán
The fifth and sixth of his Rítmicas (1930) appear to be the first works in the Western classical music tradition scored for percussion alone. -- take that, Varèse
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)
just picked this one up used at amoeba... http://www.discogs.com/release/339929
it's a good starting point for that sound, and obviously hearing tuxedomoon alongside some residents and snakefinger tracks will help cement that connection. as a whole it's a great listen with quite a lot of variety; one record is selected by ralph records mail-order subscribers and the other by the label/artists themselves.
also, i'm surprised that snakefinger's solo output hasn't been mentioned more on this thread. i'm quite a fan of 'manual of errors'
― psychgawsple, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:21 (seventeen years ago)
How is "Not Available"?
― European Bob (admrl), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
LOL @ polite OLD ILM "I have disagree with you there"
― European Bob (admrl), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)
New fucking rude and snarky answers please
Don't know if this has been discussed elsewhere in ILM but the Ralph Records webstore is closing down : http://www.ralphamerica.com/
As of August 15, Ralph America will be closing due to the general state of the music business and the expanding cost of creating physical products. It's been a great ride. Thanks for all your support over the past 11 years.
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Saturday, 24 July 2010 08:27 (fifteen years ago)
started a POX thread to commemorate: POX Ralph Records
one of the earliest, weirdest, most important independent record labels in the history of the country and I felt like giving up on this place when only one other person contributed a list, but at least sleeve gave a pretty great list
Not Available is fantastic, everything from 1971-1980 is five stars
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
All I have is Icky Flix. All I need is Icky Flix.
― Fellini.Kuti, Saturday, 24 July 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
milton totally OTM, but kids are too hip to be weird these days so whatevs.
'Not Available' is one of the best early 'difficult' records and a big gnarly concept album like Residents doing Tarkus.
― I was sleep so I was lost (herb albert), Sunday, 25 July 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
N.A. has a lovely gauzy sound, possibly due to a primitive recording setup, it sounds kinda plaintive and wistful in places, which I would say is unusual for the Rez.
― disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Sunday, 25 July 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)
aw Milton I am glad my Chasms Accord fandom kept you from losing faith completely.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Sunday, 25 July 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
will rep for this song all day everyday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDDVXlEG-_I
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:50 (fourteen years ago)
my god, this is so cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p3hdT4vmBg
does anyone know is this is on any of their studio albums? i've been on Residents burnout for a while now but this is like the coolest thing I've ever seen
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
i guess "cool" aint the right word but it's the right balance of awesome and freaky and catchy, something the Residents don't achieve much
― frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
It's on The King and I. From the late 80s, I think.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)