Defend the Indefensible: Live (the band)

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the revolution

― gear (gear), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

the great battle of our time

― gear (gear), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

ed kowalczyk vs. a microphone

― gear (gear), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

"Lightning Crashes" sounded pretty good on the radio. Except for the unnecessary and bad-sounding bridge.

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I heard from a fan of theirs that they meant the name to be "live" as opposed to "die" but everyone called them live as in perform live, so they just went with it.

In addition to a few mentioned here, "TBD" (for Tibetan Book of the Dead, yes, pretentious) was an OK song. And their MTV Unplugged wasn't that bad.

X-post - I saw them once (and apparently this happens at all the shows) but the audience always claps along to Lightning Crashes, and because it's such a slow song they inevitably get off beat, and the result is a hilarious arythmic jumble.

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Somehow or other, through all the miscellaneous purges and inadvertent losings of CDs, my copy of Throwing Copper has managed to not quite get thrown out of my crappy little CD binder. I've been spinning it lately at studio and either I'm getting old or it's a little better than I remember. Still drags all over the place, but the highs are genuine highs if you accept the basic templates of alt-rock. Even "Lightning Crashes," which really annoys me, manages to redeem itself with the amazing climax, with the wailing background vocals and all that. Rockin'. But the best by far is that "TONIGHT TONIGHT COME ON *MOTHERFUCKER!*" song, which is embarassing if you're embarassed by that kind of thing but is otherwise one of the best uses of "motherfucker" ever in music. That guy is really wound up!

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

"so they just went with it."

Gad.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

ahh Mental Jewelry! My friends and I thought that was pretty fierce when we were 14, it being a mostly acoustic record that wasn't intrinsically folky... The mega-seller follow-up (and I suspect every successive release) that was perpetually flogged on alt-radio & MTV - duddest of duds. Also, the guy's voice sucked from day one.

― will, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

i had no idea about the Jerry Harrison connection until now.

― will, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

OMG this is so weird. One of my non-ILX friends just wrote this huge thing out of nowhere about Live and now this thread is getting revived here. I feel like the universe is out to punish me!

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

I got in a fistfight with Live once.

― negotiable, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

Find something important to talk about.

!

Most disingenuous remark by a disgruntled-Googler ever?

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I remember kinda liking "I Alone".

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

All I remember besides "I Alone" and "Lightning Crashes" is that single from a few years ago where Tricky is all, "SOMEONE should take your microphone/SOMEONE should take your bubblegum." Rest of the song's crap, though.

― clotpoll, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

At one point I had the flat of the Throwing Copper cover up in my room, and I don't necessarily change the channel when Lakini's Juice comes on the radio.
That's all I got.

― I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Defense:

At the HFStival in '95, it started raining in between sets. Whoever was in charge of the P.A. put on a whole bunch of rain-themed songs, starting with Lightning Crashes. It was a cool move that brought everybody's spirits up.

I loved the hell out of the "Four Songs" ep, which came out a few months before Mental Jewlery. I think I borrowed the whole album from a friend later and was pretty unimpressed, but the ep was dope.

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

throwing copper isn't completely worthless

everything else, i would suggest, is.

― Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

i always really liked this song, but mostly because the way he sings the opening line has always made me laugh hysterically. it's like, 'dude, are you consonant-blind?'

our love is like water
pinned down and abused for being strange
our love is no other
than me alone for me all day
our love is like water/angels pinned down and abused
.
all over you, all over me
the sun, the fields, the sky
I've often tried to hold
the sea the sun, the fields, the tide
pay me now,
lay me down

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

i'd love to know how it's possible to pin down water

― Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

I always thought it was "I love thee like water."

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

"I got in a fistfight with Live once."

i WISH i got into a fist-fight w/ Live. just once...

saw this band SO many times (thanks to living in South Central PA), and none of them were memorable or good. (i guess that's redundant)

― edde, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I still think "Lakini's Juice" is great.

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

this video=hilarious with the sound off:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHnGWX0kYgc

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

IM SQUISHING MY FACE FOR MY ARTTTTTT

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

albino snake! candles!

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

so deep

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

"deep"

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

i love how his bandmates are half-assedly trying to keep up with his retarded antics

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

i feel bad for them, playing music in an empty forest

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

all alone with just an albino snake

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

the desert makes you do crazy things i guess

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

no surprise that three of the world's major religions started there!

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Live-ianity,
Liveslam,
and Livedaism

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kowalczykasstrianism

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

what crazy religion were they into? some guru guy

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XzJYjZ6Cio

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when it comes to soul,just trust Ed to do it and he'll deliver a storm

― jim, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

(no utubin' at work for me) wait is that the vid where they all have instruments in video stylee, xcept the drummer, who just has his sticks??

classic beavis and butthead out of that one, iirc

― gff, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

"you forgot your drums, dillhole. we're all serious here, and you're just screwing around."

― gff, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

this video=hilarious with the sound off:

omg, you just made my night.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Like, someone needs to make some animated gifs from this thing, STAT.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

Live's bass player totally swiped all of my shit for their first two albums. Seriously!

― Nubbelverbrennung, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

Er, can we ask who you are specifically?

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

I own Throwing Copper. I used to think Live was one of the best bands ever. But I was, like, 12.

Apparently they're less angsty and more Christian...Actually, I think they're both, even though Ed KowabudsfkDKFX is in his 40s.

"Heaven"

You don't need no friends
get back your faith again
you have the power to believe
another dissident
take back your evidence
it has no power to deceive

I'll believe it when I see it, for myself

I don't need no one to tell me about heaven
I look at my daughter, and I believe.
I don't need no proof when it comes to God and truth
I can see the sunset and I perceive

I sit with them all night
everything they say is right
but in the morning they were wrong
I'll be right by your side
come hell or water high
down any road you choose to roam

I'll believe it when I see it for myself

I don't need no one to tell me about heaven
I look at my daughter, and I believe.
I don't need no proof when it comes to God and truth
I can see the sunset and I perceive, yeah

darling, I believe, Oh Lord
sometimes it's hard to breathe, Lord
at the bottom of the sea, yeah yeah

I'll believe it when I see it for myself

I don't need no one to tell me about heaven
I look at my daughter, and I believe.
I don't need no proof when it comes to God and truth
I can see the sunset and I perceive

I don't need no one to tell me about heaven
I look at my daughter, and I believe.
I don't need no proof when it comes to God and truth
I can see the sunset
I can see the sunset
I can see the sunset
I don't need no one
Ohhhh
I don't need no one
I don't need no one
I don't need no one
To tell me about heaven
I believe
I believe it, yeah

― Tape Store, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 05:50 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently they're less angsty and more Christian (today)

― Tape Store, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

A couple of things in defense:

1) They made beautiful babies with Dave Matthews.
2) Trip timer. Put the CD on. When you start noticing it sucks, you need to get more drugs. Hypothetically and sarcastically with no real world implications.

― humansuit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

I invented emo.

― Nubbelverbrennung, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahaha hi! Nice username!

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

"1) They made beautiful babies with Dave Matthews."

this is NOT a defense. unless yr idea of "defense" is throwing yr weapon down and walking away from it.

any reference to DMB=kiss o' death.

― edde, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I invented emo.

OMG I LOVE SHAM 69

― David R., Wednesday, 16 May 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I can't really defend them except that I loved "Selling the Drama" at the time.

I remember being disgusted at the price of their tickets during the "Secret Samadhi" tour. I think U2 wasn't much more expensive (maybe $20-40 more) but at least with U2, you got tonnes and tonnes of stupid stuff such as a giant golden arch - so you knew where your money was going. Live just had some large candles.

― I am not afraid of you and you can spank my ass, Thursday, 17 May 2007 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

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