Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu Poll

the opening lines of junior dad are just so incredible to me.

Would you come to me
If I was half drowning
An arm above the last wave

Would you come to me
Would you pull me up
Would the effort really hurt you
Is it unfair to ask you
To help pull me up

yeah i really thought about that song after seeing his sister talk about the ECT he went through and all the terrible mental health "treatment" he received as a child

that motherfucker anthony fantano* in his vlog review of bish bosch said that the lyrics on that albun were even more "meaningless" than lou reed's lyrics on lulu (har har). to me, so much of lulu seems raw and even transparently personal.

*sorry if you post here, but really dude

and yeah, the part of junior dad when he talks about looking in the mirror as an older person and seeing his father's reflection -- "say hello to junior dad" -- is just so chilling. people talk about reed's decline but over the years he really refined his clipped, conversational verse into something so pure and weaponlike. "junior dad" is the worthy heir to "berlin" for sure even if the rest of the album is uneven (with some other great moments too!)

from day one i have basically advocated the idea that lulu is his lyrical peak, there's the feeling that so much of what he'd been working toward throughout his career is finally being realized

it's also a notable album for metallica, the fast/heavy parts are the first time they sound like a honest to god rock band playing a room together since like, jeez, master of puppets probably, and i know lou didn't really let them rehearse so it's very instinctual; they sound like they are holding on for dear life (C'MON JAMES!) instead of cutting and pasting riffs in protools

today i noticed trujillo's really subtle bass work in the opening of "cheat on me"

lol remember lulu

lolu

i'm a passionateless wave upon the sea

In a piece published on the day of Reed's death, Robert Christgau wrote that Lulu "probably didn't get enough" "mazel tov" from critics.[39]

Mistress Dread is awesome btw

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S03E19/401783.jpg?lines=A+puny+body+and+a+tiny+dick%0AA+little+dog+can+make+you+sick

lol

shout out to ilxor cbesinger for that

lol

if we polled this again I imagine there'd be more Iced Honey and Brandenburg Gate votes,

comma nothing

I'm pumping blood
Like a common state work-ah

C'mon James

What?

Wake up

The dream is over

I know three babies with the name Lulu right now. The Lulu Generation.

Post from last night inspired by watching a 2013 Lou show in Prague where they do some Lulu stuff and a really great set of favs and obscurities. On Amazon Prime, really awesome

Oh nice! Yeah he was pulling out some random old tunes towards the end...

Wow man, thanks! That concert on Amazon was really,really good. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say, that besides the VU, that was the finest backup band I've seen/heard with our Lou. In some ways it was reminiscent of Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds/Smile tours. There must be a sort of mutual appreciation society thingy that goes on. The younger musicians look up to the auteur and want his praise. While the auteur gets a group who are willing to execute his every whim, and give his music a nice shot in the arm, energy wise etc.

And next i want to give Lulu another try. Those songs were among the best stuff, in that film. Also, i don't believe I've ever seen/heard Lou so relaxed. He always used to (seemingly nervously adlibbing all sorts of "ooo-ooo, hey-heys, and nah-nahs, between and sometimes in lieu of actual lyrics, which I hated. There was very little of that here. There was a ton of it in that VU reunion CD/video, if u need an example. Not a Mettalica fan at all, but I will give it a try.

Post from last night inspired by watching a 2013 Lou show in Prague where they do some Lulu stuff and a really great set of favs and obscurities. On Amazon Prime, really awesome

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, April 30, 2017 10:09 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha the best part of this is the deep cuts are like...deep cut doesn't even really do it justice...squeezed in between "Waiting For the Man" and a Lulu song is..."Senselessly Cruel" from "Rock N'Roll Heart"!

this must be from when the guy from barenaked ladies was in lou's band.

Hmm maybe i will watch this

is there an audio boot somewhere? (or a recommended recording from a similar show?)

Oh, wouldn’t it be lovely?

Sorry Niels, don't have a lead on a boot at the moment. I would b interested in one as well. I still can't believe how good that was/is. I will certainly let ILM know, if I find any in the future. I can easily imagine Tylerw posting one on his wonderfully hip (in the original non pejorative sense) boot mp3 blog.

"Hip" in the sense that, the musical taste as displayed there is exquisite. And the writing style in the posts is friendly, informative, and intersting. P.s. I've been a lurker here for years and am very happy to have finally joined a couple weeks ago.

Welcome! And you’re posting in this thread, so you’re already doing something right.

thanks for the kind words -- i don't think i have any 2011 Lou bootlegs, actually. I do have somewhere a tape of Lou and Laurie Anderson playing a duo show with a handful of (radically different) Lulu tunes included.

I watched that concert doc on Amazon prime last week -- pretty good! Kind of an interesting vulnerability onstage for Lou, and yeah lots of weird song choices.

welcome vryna!

#teamlulu always needs more members

strange to see rob wasserman jamming on things like "mistress dread" but i guess that guy was up for pretty much anything

In a way the VU to Lulu tour (best name ever) seems almost like a bit of the throwback to 70s Lou, with a big band, horns, backing vocals, long extended jams on just about every song. Lou esp is killing in on the Lulu tunes.

The band is so weird, dudes from Ratdog, Zorn, Barenaked Ladies...

totally. i actually think a great book would be like a big oral history interviewing Lou sidemen/women from over the decades.

i'm sure fernando saunders has good stories. and michael fonfara ... i just looked him up and saw he's canadian too -- Lou had a thing for keyboard players from up there i guess. that canuck soul, right?

where was primary female backing vocalist? (she kinda looked like she should be fronting a late 90s band that liked Get Up Kids a lot), she was great

Havent checked the Prague recording but I attended the Amsterdam gig of the VU to Lulu tour. Joan as Policewoman was the support act and did (some) vocals during Lou's gig.

I'm sure Mike Rathke has seen some shit in his time

I bet a signed album of this (if there are any) will go for a zillion dollars.

Checked eBay to see if any are out there, but all I found was

http://vinylsamongotherthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LuluFront.jpg

Jesus, are we going to have an upswing of ironic praise of this turd now?

we always liked it

amen

'You never had aLittle Dog !'

I've been aggressively consistent in my praise of this record, which I tipsily referred to as "my Sticky Fingers" on Saturday night

there were a few that could see Lulu for what it was....us...David Bowie, few others