new Pitchfork Review is out. best kenny rogers review ever!
https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11136776_10153906021667137_3064343674909503890_n.jpg?oh=d175808040ff4018088110842e380ca3&oe=55DE562E
― scott seward, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
recently looked up this weirdly brutal review of a perfectly fine record, hard to believe it came from 2012 rather than the early 00's. http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17136-mumps-etc/
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 21 May 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
Don't know where else to put this.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/17499-destroyer-dream-lover/
"The saxophones on "Dream Lover" are not mournful, but exuberant. They don’t wander in, like a lonesome lush looking for last call. They leap out, as does Bejar, who’s at his Falstaffian apex. He’s romantic and rakish, singing about wind-swept adventures with his dream lover in that recognizably world weary voice, while peppering in a few bashful profanities. The music ascends toward a joyous conclusion, the saxophones squalling in indefatigable glee."
Isn't one of those saxophones actually a trumpet?
― Indexed, Thursday, 21 May 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr296/Elomere/unforgivable.jpg
― een, Friday, 22 May 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
fuck people writing out their daydreams to describe musicvision ain't sound motherfuckers get a real job
― The Once-ler, Friday, 22 May 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link
lol i had no idea pitchfork prints a magazine now, did everybody here bitch about it for several days
― brimstead, Friday, 22 May 2015 05:16 (nine years ago) link
I don't get how "minimalist" and "chaotic" are opposite
That was the most annoying phrase! Using the term "minimalist" just confuses things, like if that word was omitted you would have "PC Music sounds chaotic but is sneakily deliberate to the last distorted note" -- a totally clear statement.
The review has a lot of bad constructions like that. There will be several clear sentences and then things like:
if anyone’s really in drag here, it’s humans pretending to be avatars—the total elision of soul.
which is just clunky and awkward, and creates problems for itself by using terms like "drag" and "soul" which have specific connotations, like minimalism, which the writer just ignores because they like these provocative words more than communicating clearly? I dunno. I liked the phrase "chopped-up, anti-melodic spatter of brand names and robot garble" -- sounds like something i would like to listen to.
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 28 May 2015 08:17 (nine years ago) link
xp I'm not sure Falstaff is who that reviewer thinks he is. World weary?
― Continue your brooding monologue (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 28 May 2015 09:57 (nine years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/59755-water-company-challenges-jay-zs-water-is-free-tidal-comments/
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 29 May 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
From The Pitch: "The Blues is, for all intents and purposes, dead. No one under the age of fifty writes about it or talks about it anywhere prominently."
― campreverb, Friday, 29 May 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
don't trust anyone over fifty
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 May 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/beer.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 May 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
That Pitch quote reads a lot better within its context: a long empathetic piece about the life and legacy of B.B. King
― intheblanks, Friday, 29 May 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
that quote is kinda true too.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 May 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Where exactly do people under 50 "talk prominently"?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
also, AU CONTRARE: http://thoughtcatalog.com/devon-hartman/2014/11/you-have-to-stop-what-youre-doing-right-now-to-watch-this-dog-sing-the-blues/
"Where exactly do people under 50 "talk prominently"?"
taco bell. urban outfitters.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
aol chatrooms
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
at least they tell me they're under 50
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link
well maybe I'm wrong but it seems like their own contributor Amanda Petrusich received a fair amount of attention for 'Do Not Sell At Any Price', and his written a good bit on the blues-on Pitchfork.
― campreverb, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
Yeah but she's 53
― Evan, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
Has music writing period created a bill Simmons like character since ... Chuck klosterman? Serious q
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Who it should be noted doesn't even write about music
Any more
We're in a doomed and dying industry, no one cares about your opinion and good taste is worthless; people rely on those already in their network for recommendations, or maybe a spotify compilation. The functional purpose of music writing at this point is news writing, celebrity writing, and that's ... Literally it. At least as far as a large audience is concerned. All you can really do is be a good enough writer that people want to read you on those grounds by building your own micro audience
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
I don't know that I even 100% believe that but i think having any expectations beyond that could only lead to disappointment
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
have you considered law school?
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Not even for a second
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
Im being a lil flippant ppl care about your opinion and good taste isn't really worthless, it's all just scaled down drastically
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Virtually no one, not actually no one
The functional purpose of music writing at this point is news writing, celebrity writing, and that's ... Literally it.
I think this is otm actually, which is why so much "music" writing these days has little to nothing to do with actual music and mostly has to do with the artist's narrative/story arc (to which music is an incidental element)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
which bugs me personally but it is interesting in terms of audiences and how they consume music - the stories that interest audiences are no longer really in the songs themselves, they're in the career arcs of the performers (which can be made up of songs + other stuff)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
maybe it was always that way, to some extent, and it's just been accelerated/taken to extremes given the explosion of digital content idk
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
The functional purpose of music writing at this point is to create places on the internet where an artist's name appears, and then trick people into clicking on it
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
ok but why people click on it is only partly about the music, it's more about "I am interested in the story of this person's life"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
then why are 95% of music features about boring people?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
whiney, do you think deej would make a good lawyer, y or n?
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
well, boring is relative
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
i don't think any judge would tolerate his constant defense of "why are you all attacking my client all the time?"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
i think his persistence and semantic focus would make him a good lawyer
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
like, i think he'd be good at cross-examinations
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
no, u right
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
deej can fight to get rappers out of jail after pitchfork and noisey get them locked up
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
the hemiola defense
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, May 29, 2015 4:48 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
bc this industry wastes lots of money
thank god
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, May 29, 2015 4:42 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is of course true but getting those clicks is thru ... new writing & celebrity writing. I guess there is also provocative thinkpiece writing that we all hate 99% of the time
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
does anyone else ever see threads like this beginning circa 2002 and suddenly realize its 2015 and that its been a thirteen year discussion and feel like what
― meaulnes, Friday, 29 May 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
tbh i think its stupid as hell that this thread keeps getting bumped, like can't we just stick all this stuff on worst new music thread if its really that bad/worth complaining about
― Keith Mozart (D-40), Friday, 29 May 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link
its not bad writing its bad thinking
― no (Lamp), Saturday, 30 May 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link