songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller

I saw the Prodigy last night and was surprised to find out that the biggest reaction wasn't for "Breathe" or "Firestarter" or "Poison", but for "Smack My Bitch Up." I checked on iTunes and it's their biggest selling track! Sometime in the last 10 years it became their legacy track. How? Why? What other bands is this true?

so, yeah. Please cross-reference with iTunes for this.

1. Prodigy - "Smack My Bitch Up"

great thread idea, i definitely have sat around and figured this out w/ a few bands, will have to look some up when i get home tonight

would be interesting to cross-reference this with licensing

like maybe in the long run that impacts sales more than radio/video play

my guess is that there are a large number of people out there who did not know the band Prodigy but knew there was a song called "Smack My Bitch Up"

i always thought smack my bitch was the big prodigy song!!

it wouldn't have sold as well as nearly half their other 90s songs esp. the two #1s

notoriety was helped by banned video, no?

2. Elton John - "Tiny Dancer"
^^ someone can doublecheck this and refute it if necessary since i'm looking at a cached browser page of his top iTunes songs, but that's a very prominent example of a song that movie licensing turned into a much bigger part of the artist's legacy than it had been before

wouldn't be surprised if 'Wonderwall' was biggest-selling Oasis song online (was probably their biggest hit in the US if not in the UK tho)

Don't have iTunes right here, but just guessing on a few...

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Lou Reed - Perfect Day

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

"Bohemian Rhapsody" benefitted from the 90s re-release and Wayne's World, but it was always one of their biggest hits, I gotta veto that. xpost

Perfect Day? It must still be "Walk on the Wild Side"

Journey's only two top 5 songs in the US were "Open Arms" and "Who's Crying Now."

"Don't Stop Believing," meanwhile, is the biggest-selling catalogue track in iTunes history.

no way was bohemian rhapsody a bigger hit than "another one bites the dust" or "crazy little thing called love"

What about "Son of a Preacher Man" by Dusty Springfield?

obv I don't know the UK chart stuff much, but was that actually her biggest hit?

ooh good call, put a 3 on that. xpost re journey

"Bohemian Rhapsody" held a sales record in the UK for almost a decade and was Queen's first US top 10. I would say songs that establish a band on that level count as one of their biggest hits whether there are higher charting songs or not.

Bohemian Rhapsody was always Queen's biggest hit surely

Not in the U.S., where No. 1 hits "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (!) and "Another One Bites The Dust" both charted higher. (So did "We Are The Champions," at first, but then "Rhapsody" came back in 1992 and hit No. 2 off of Wayne's World; it had only hit No. 9 on its original release.)

The Romantics' legacy song is almost certainly "What I Like About You" (big jock-rock hit, right?), though in their lifetime "Talking In Your Sleep" charted way higher (No. 3, compared to No. 49.)

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

yeah that's really interesting, i don't think i've ever even heard "Talking In Your Sleep" but I've heard "Like" a million times. xpost

this icon should be next to all these songs in the iTunes store: http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-slowburner.gif

I think I've heard those 2 about an equal # of times--but I guess "Like" is more of a party song.

what about "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond....again, i'm a lil ignorant of his history but wiki says "Song Sung Blue" was a bigger chart hit

Yeah, I think "Sweet Caroline" and "Cherry Cherry" are both more famous today than "Song Sung Blue" or "Cracklin' Rosie" -- but they were all in the top 5.

Freebird? That's certainly Skynyrd's legacy song, but probably not their biggest iTunes seller (Sweet Home Alabama?).

(Meant to add "Song Sung Blue" and "Cracklin' Rosie" were his only two solo #1s.)

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

usually a soundtrack or placement in a television show will raise a song out of the bands "hits" into a totally different demographic

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

oh wow here's the ultimate one:

according to wiki, "Dancing With Myself" by Billy Idol only reached 102 on the U.S. charts and FAILED to chart in the U.K.

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yeah but "Rebel Yell" and "White Wedding" are both bigger iTunes sellers

i mean this could very easily turn into "early hits that established a band's identity but didn't chart as high as later singles when they were more famous" list and get away from the original idea

yeah that's true

i was more just shocked that that hadn't even charted at the time, being how catchy it was and all

"Should I Stay or Should I Go?"

Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (wasn't even a single from So)

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This was released as a single off of the "Say Anything" soundtrack and received massive amounts of radio play.

"In Your Eyes" was released as a US single, peaking at #26 Billboard Hot 100 and #1 Billboard Mainstream Rock in 1986.

Say Anything gave "In Your Eyes" a second chart run in 1989, but it peaked at #41. No Top 40 for you!

...and became PG's first certified Gold single in 2005 lol

"Only You" did marginally better than "Situation" on the US charts (67 vs. 73) and much better on the UK charts (2 vs. wasn't even released), but "Situation" seems much more like Yaz's legacy song.

"Born to Run!" Peaked at #23.

(Well, technically it's outsold by "Radio Nowhere" on iTunes, but I think that was thanks to some "Magic" promotion)

yeah acts with recent singles kinda skew this, but i think it's safe to assume "Born To Run" ultimately sells more than "Radio Nowhere"

Oh oh oh!

"American Girl" was the second single off Tom Petty's debut album, after "Breakdown," but did not even chart.

Radiohead. Creep is their biggest hit, but probably not their "signature" song. NOt sure what is, though.

Bruce's biggest chart hit is Dancing In The Dark

"Creep" is Radiohead's legacy song to millions of non-Radiohead fans

I'm not sure what Bob Marley's legacy song is, but I have a feeling that "Roots, Rock, Reggae" (his only U.S. Hot 100 hit, peaking at # 51) isn't it. It might not even be in the Top 10.

(Well, Marley has lots of Legacy songs, obviously. Or at least an album full of them.)

Cheap Trick's only #1 is "The Flame." ("I Want You to Want Me" was #7, "Surrender" #62.)

What about remixes doing this with a song? Because Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side until it became like their biggest song (v. walk this way obv.)

Also presumably this must have happened by tunes that were sampled a bunch, although none come to mind immediately.

'Hallelujah' wins this thread, surely?

Run DMC's It's Like That was just a b-side

Not really. It was on side one of the 12-inch, and came before "Sucker MCs"; ditto with the instrumentals on side two:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=257372

How do I find out Itunes sales numbers? Is there some page for them?

Talking Heads. Their biggest charting US single is Wild Wild Life. Biggest in UK is Road To Nowhere. Their signature/legacy song is clearly Once In A Lifetime, which never even charted.

I tried to a search for a specific tune on the Itunes store, but when I click on the song name, I'm thrown back to the Apple store home page.

*fallen off the top 40

tipsy, your band covered "Mad World" in the mid '80s? That's cool considering how The Hurting didn't get much of a hearing until ...Big Chair exploded (though I assume it was a college hit in '83).

xpost "These guys are from England and who gives a shit!"

From a North American perspective, I would've thought "Friday" and "Lovesong" were the biggest with the general public. (Checking now and they are in 2nd and 5th place respectively).

Wish was the first cure album I experienced in real time as a radio listener and music fan, and I remember “Friday” being big but also feeling like it was a latter day effort by a band past its prime. That might’ve just been a me thing, though. Even so, there’s something about it that just feels less iconic than those other hits, the structure with the days of the week, the lyrics feel kind of trifling, I don’t know. I will call it out as having one of the best bridges of all time, however

What's odd is that I remember seeing the "Why Can't I Be You" video on MTV a ton more than JLH.

"Friday I'm in Love" peaked at #18, but it was on the charts for 20 weeks, longer than any of their other singles. It ended up on the Billboard Year-End 100 (at #71) cause it was just around forever

MTV and the popular charts always had a divide during this era. By 1987 the Cure joined Depeche Mode and New Order as a college crossover band that earned some pla.

What's odd is that I remember seeing the "Why Can't I Be You" video on MTV a ton more than JLH.

― Loggins & Messiah (President Keyes)

Well, "Why Can't I Be You" was the lead single and as such released nearly two months before the album, with possible attendant wahey big comeback narratives; for that time at least it makes sense it would be heavily rotated. "JLH" was just a third single, coming out when interested parties should know the song already, four months after the album, and after "Catch" (which I love even more than JLH and on some days is my favourite Cure song).

I seem to remember the release of WCIBY being kind of a Thing, but that when it actually dropped, it was received with... not hostility, not disdain, but maybe a bit of reserve? So it may just have been prominent before the album's release, and less so after it, due to label and/or band misjudging which tune was the Obvious Hit?

(Also I have a feeling Dino Jr cover may have raised posterity's view of its prominence at the time a bit?)

(in last parenthesis, "it" is "Just Like Heaven", obv.)

this made me get out ten imaginary years again and the contemporary single review (uncredited-nme?) hilariously compares "why can't i be you?" to dexys.

Um kinda fair? Especially if comparison is somewhat dismissive.

dexys comparison is on point

here's what they say in ten imaginary years:
https://i.imgur.com/WQ9ntFY.jpeg

and below that on the same page, there is a rare still photo of short-haired telecaster-playing rs from in orange.

"you like dexys right?"
"[ED. NOTE] No." lol

WICBY is in my little pantheon of 80s songs having a Motowny backbeat but not at all being an 60s pastiche. But come to think of it there is something really Rowlandy about the singing too.

I recall Robert saying the video's choreography was meant to be a shit rip of Five Star in particular, which is not a context I feel even crossed the Atlantic let alone the decades.

WCIBY*

because of this derail, i will post one more tangential thing and then i promise i'll stop talking about the cure:
if you have a 45 7" copy of "come on eileen" with a large center hole, put it on your turntable slightly off center, pitch down as far as you can (or just play at 33⅓ if you can't), and that will give you an idea of what dexys playing pornography might have sounded like.

please don't ask how i discovered this.

I should note that "Why Can't I Be You" reached #54 in the States, an impressive peak considering how "Inbetween Days" scraped the 90s a year and a half earlier.

At high school parties "Boys Don't Cry" was already enough of a standard that generic teen cover bands played it.

Some of this may also be that it was easier for 4 kids starting out to make a decent hash of this then say... Plainsong or Close To Me (not that we didn't try).

Well, I'm talking 1989 and 1990!

The "Sssss!"s in the review there seems to indicate phonetical transcription of the reaction of a guest reviewer? Might it be Shane McGowan by any chance, known for that kind of laugh?

if you have a 45 7" copy of "come on eileen" with a large center hole, put it on your turntable slightly off center, pitch down as far as you can (or just play at 33⅓ if you can't), and that will give you an idea of what dexys playing pornography might have sounded like.

That is beautiful. An old 33-to-45 counterpart I remember, was play Rain Dogs (maybe it was primarily "Rain Dogs") at 45 and hear Edith Piaf had she been allowed to live a few more decades.

The Smiths’ number 1 streaming song is There Is A Light That Never Goes Out, a UK hit on its reissue in 1992, it went to number 25. There were fourteen higher chart placings in the years previous for various singles. Today it hit 1B plays on Spotify.

Where I'm from (Québec), "Inbetween Days", "Close To Me", and "Boys Don't Cry 86" were even bigger hits than WCIBY and JLH. I think the US caught on The Cure an album later (aside from college radios).

^ That's my sense for AUS too. Looking up the numbers, "Lovecats" and "Let's Go to Bed" had even primed them for such levels, chart-wise, already. (And those were definitely radio fixtures when I was basically an infant.)

Growing up on KROQ, they actually played "Primary" a bit. "Lovecats" exploded then "The Walk" and "Let's Go To Bed" was even bigger than those two combined. They didn't play anything from The Top but then all singles including "A Man Inside My Mouth" from the '85 era. That title of the song confused people.

"Boys Don't Cry" was not played until the '86 release but they played the original then and afterwards.

The Smiths one doesn't really surprise me as TIALTNGO often tops Best Smiths' songs articles etc and even won our poll iirc

Might it be Shane McGowan by any chance, known for that kind of laugh?

Yes, exactly! Smash Hits invited him in as a guest reviewer in one issue, which I can actually remember reading at the time.

The real surprising Smiths Spotify ranking is "Back To The Old House" is now their #4 after "There Is A...", "This Charming Man", and "Heaven Knows...".

That was a Tik Too thing

*Tik Tok too

The Cardigans’ second biggest Spotify song after Lovefool; Step on Me. Anyone?

read that as a song called "Step On Me, Anyone?" which sounds like a British comedy show that's far less racy than the title suggests.

who's gonna step on you again, anyone?

it's odd to me that out of all the tracks on the Genesis album Invisible Touch, "Tonight Tonight Tonight" has the fifth-most streams and it's way down there. it felt like such a ubiquitous song at the time...it was a huge hit and I remembered it was also in a Michelob ad. i'm not saying it was ever going to be their legacy song but it was the one i remembered the most as a kid, more than any of their others. it spoke to that whole mysterious and provocative and life of adults as seen in other artifacts of the time like Graceland, "Don't You Know What the Night Can Do?", maybe some of the moodier power ballads of the time like "Is This Love?", the opening credits of the Carvey/Hartman/Lovitz/etc era SNL, and so on.

I heard it tons on the radio, though not as much as "Land of Confusion" or the title track. My least favorite single, too: when Collins is in bald man stentorian mode I dive under the latest table.

That mysterious adultness (otm) you named I hear in "Throwing It All Away" and "In Too Deep."

Looking at their UK chart history, was surprised to find that the closest any of the singles from that album got to the Top 10 was #14 (for Land of Confusion)

It wasn't the Bald Thriller over there...

That mysterious adultness (otm) you named I hear in "Throwing It All Away" and "In Too Deep."

― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

those as well, yeah. this is kind of an interesting subgenre, obv all songs by adults aimed at adults try to create the cinematic out of the mundane, but this is even more specific i think, where the effect is on a younger audience who is already perplexed by grownups, and it makes them wonder what the hell is going on in the big city at night. and for me it was always these adult contemporary hits which hinted at maybe something dark occasionally, In the Air Tonight, but also it could be fun like idk most of Can't Slow Down.

When Invisible Touch was released, I was 7 or so, and I remember running around the living room, dramatically acting out songs even though I didn't understand what the lyrics meant. Usually, I imagined myself wrapped up in some kind of G.I. Joe/James Bond business. T,T,T was a superb backdrop, in that regard.

I was thinking about Men At Work, but it turns out an early version of "Down Under" was the b-side of their first single. The a-side is song I've never heard.

How in heavens is a 2007 vintage cover of "Bette Davis Eyes" by faaar Missing Persons biggest track? 120M+ vs 15M for "Destination Unknown" and 10M for "Words".

Had me wondering if the Kim Carnes version wasn't on streaming, but nope, there it is.

Odd.

Must be a playlist thing. Especially weird since it seems like their version came out in 2007?

x-post Tonight Tonight Tonight is also 9 minutes long on the Invisible Touch album, which likely is why its streaming numbers are lower.

They Might be Giants were brought up earlier - looks like Istanbul is #1 and Birdhouse #2, but #3 is...a strange deep cut called "Stuff Is Way" which apparently blew up for weird internet reasons. the band's reaction was pretty funny, something like "this song wasn't meant to be anything and now we have to figure out how to play it live"

TMGB's Spotify streams are interesting-- "Kiss Me, Son of God" more popular than "Don't Let's Start" or "Anna Ng" or even "Particle Man."

Not sure when it happened, as it looks like "Heroes" was his number as per a post in this thread from two years ago, but according to Spotify, Starman is now David Bowie's most streamed song (not counting Under Pressure).

The Bernie Sanders Bump?

It was used in the ads for that Buzz Lightyear movie.

Lol

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