I disagree, primarily because of a lack of evidence.
It's female music writers tearing down a woman writing about music because they feel like she's making them look bad in front of men...when no men have actually had the response the women are complaining about/warning of.
In the same paragraph! I can see your cojones from HERE son
― Leonard Pine, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
xp the opera pic is glorious
― Leonard Pine, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
lol at idontliketheserecords, that guy is very much the same as librarian woman only he's all "ehhh fuck this shit" about everything that he didn't listen to in the 90s
― ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
his woman has some pretty cool records, mostly singles and stuff that you'd grab if you were a kind-of-anglophile dance music fan of an age and thought you might make some beats or dj someday
― ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
yah it's a much better record collection
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
aaaand it turns out she did used to dj
― ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
tbh in a really neckbeardy collector-style collection you seldom end up with a stack of random singles that have like one awesome remix on the b-side but dj types (or people that aspired but never really dj'ed) have mostly those
― ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
I feel like it would be much more interesting for my operatic soprano, country music loving wife to write her reactions to my goth/techno/industrial albums
lol would read
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
a few years ago me and my wife listened to our entire record collection in alphabetical order (partly for fun, partly to determine what to weed out). we didn't blog about it but it led to some funny discussions/arguments/opinions. I guess if you asked her she might say it was largely *my* collection but hey I would never have bought those AC/DC records, how did they get in there
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
when I joked about through my wife's dusty CD booklet from college and giving my opinions on various movie soundtracks, soulquarian-adjacent and womens-college-oriented folk albums, she was VERY enthusiastic. some obv potential pitfalls have kept me from pulling the trigger - listens are inherently cursory, you don't wanna be a presumptive prick but if you're overly deferential it's boring, what's the point unless you're gonna try to ride this thing to a book deal, etc - but it's still in the back of my head
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
joked about going through
also do i really want that many pictures of me beaming next to talib kweli and ani difrancos on the web
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
lol da croupier that sounds like my wife's cd booklet, does she have any dead prez mixtapes
― marcos, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
Ha nah she didn't roll that deep
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
that guy's wife has a fuckin cool record collection and he's cute to me, obviously the superior blog
― Leonard Pine, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
I wouldn't necessarily say _better_ but it's definitely more random and varied. Again, my opinion, but record collections that look like you just took two or three "best albums ever" lists and then added a few more albums from a handful of the artists is boring as hell.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
obviously neither of them are pro music writers (and I still think it's weird a personal tumblr with a vinyl gimmick has all these ILM posters doing heavy analysis) and I'm no more here for this guy waxing poetic about Dre than her talking about ice cream but I've got lots of tabs open rn with his Youtube links, which is as much as I'll ask from a music blog. currently listening to Up Down Suite for the first time in at least 15 years. I'll probably make it 30 before I do it again but ahh the nostalgia
― Leonard Pine, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
"and I have no idea what you're trying to say with the line:
'an open, candid approach to her material that people have learned to see as false and performative.'"
no, i get this. it's when you're being real and people accuse you of being fake. like someone will think a person is being a try-hard and is spending a lot of time meticulously grooming their public self, when actually all they're doing is spouting whatever crap comes off the top of their head. it's the sort of accusation that says more about the person making it than it does about the target.
― rushomancy, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 11:37 (nine years ago) link
that's why we haven't evolved a word for being disingenuous
― contendo conformo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 11:44 (nine years ago) link
to find out what happens... when people stop being polite... and start getting real...
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:16 (nine years ago) link
IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY
― DJP, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:12 (nine years ago) link
That quote will never not be not funny.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
"obviously neither of them are pro music writers"
yeah but the husband works for a public radio show based in nyc which is how this all got spotlit in the first place. same shit different year
why did i click on this thread
― maura, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
like... sorry that i'm not into music criticism as pinterest, i.e. the continued push toward gender essentialization in popular culture and the reactions to it? i hate ladyblogs of this ilk for the exact same reason, the tacit prescriptivism of how a 'wife' is
― maura, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
but i guess i'm just a j e a l o u s h a t e r. too bad that can't fit on a license plate
also i'm single!
― maura, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
i guess 'swf looking for swm to defy gender norms' reads as kinda awkies though, especially when those norms seem to be working relatively ok for the intended targets
― maura, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
My Existential Crisis's Stupid Record Collection
you think a license plate is bad, try fitting that on your knuckles
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
what makes you think i didn't
― maura, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
fortunately, you can fit "toe-tappy" on a license plate if you spell it toe-tapi
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
my wife has clarified that her enthusiasm for my proposed project had less to do with viral public spectacle hoo-ha than her wishing i'd become an indigo girls fan, knowing that if i listen to an act long enough i usually find something i like about it
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
the more you listen, the closer you are to fine amirite
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
indigo girls are good, if we're going to get real
― tylerw, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link
okay i finally googled the woman and found this: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_sell_at_any_price_reviewed_by_sarah_o_holla.htmli still don't really think people should get ragged on for their lame tumblrs, but man, slate did amanda petrusich dirty with this piece.
"Petrusich’s writing is elegant and witty; I laughed out loud several times and felt like Petrusich and I could be friends."
cool
― Leonard Pine, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
Petrusich’s writing is elegant and witty; I laughed out loud several times and felt like Petrusich and I could be friends. And the next time I’m at a big rambling flea market or antique store, I’m going to know just where to look for an old 78; after reading this book, I might even know if it’s valuable or not. I’m not going to tell you how to do it, though. Pick up this book to find out, and maybe we’ll bump into each other wearing scuba gear at the bottom of the Milwaukee River.
this is a specific, contemporary writing style that is more specific than the word "disingenuous" (xp) allows although it is sort of disingenuous. there is a lot to be said about this style, how it narrows context in an age of infinite access to information, creates a sense of intimacy with both the product at hand and the reader, and finally seems designed to be at least at some level annoying and obstinate
― Treeship, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link
there is a lot to be said about this style
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
that's the style used in newspapers for the past fifty years bub
too bad "the palmer method" is already something else
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
waterface please use "bub" more often i like pretending you're wolverine
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
can do two live croup
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
*snikt*
― tylerw, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
― Leonard Pine, Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:28 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you laugh but this is how most people judge writing (often in the "I like this dude's writing, I feel like I could get a beer with him"), the only difference is this piece actually cops to it
― katherine, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
* in the _context_
― katherine, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
that's definitely true, though the sentences that immediately shift from "i think the writer would be my friend" to "maybe you the reader, are also my friend"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
that immediately follow
i don't laugh i think it sucks
― Leonard Pine, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
it's just a different approach. instead of indulging the fiction of a bland, universal reader, she creates a different fiction that the reader is her friend and that they'll meet someday in a flea market or at the bottom of a river.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
She also creates a fiction where I'm interested in hearing about her tumblr in a review of somebody else's book. Not cricket imo
― Leonard Pine, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
i don't think the original review mentions cricket at all
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link