Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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ouch..that one hurt. No, I don't know how, don't really care how. I'm guessing no one has because this is an anti-dave board, and if anyone posted a picture of DMB they would never hear the end of the whining and bitching from people (like you). I'm sure they just dont want to waist time dealing with it.

― Paige, Sunday, 8 June 2003 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not an "anti-dave board' it's called I Love Music. Where we discuss music of all kinds. Use the search function at the bottom of the page you will find all sorts are discussed. Everyone is welcome here. Im fairly new myself but i find most people are friendly and welcome everyone posting here(apart from Calz for whatever reasons).

― Franklin Ambrose (Franklin Ambrose), Sunday, 8 June 2003 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm amazed that I missed this thread the first time around, since I hate Dave Mathews with a passion more fiery than a nova. Of course, my hatred is totally irrational, since the DMB's music is too boring to hate, kinda like late '80s Van Morrison.

― J (Jay), Sunday, 8 June 2003 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

It seems to be a common occurence between Americans. Europeans dont care about DMB at all as most have never heard DMB. His visiblility is non existent in Europe. Much the same as Hootie & The Blowfish and Phish and other "jam bands".

― Franklin Ambrose (Franklin Ambrose), Sunday, 8 June 2003 14:51 (twenty-three years ago)

His visiblility is non existent in Europe. Much the same as Hootie & The Blowfish and Phish and other "jam bands".

Score one for Europe.

― adam (adam), Sunday, 8 June 2003 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

'fairly new here' except for the other nineteen pseudonyms ennit

― Ferg (Ferg), Sunday, 8 June 2003 15:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Thats a shame for the europeans.

― Tina T, Sunday, 8 June 2003 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

In ten years time, will anyone still be listening to DMB?

I THINK NOT!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 June 2003 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

when he's in town like half of my office takes the day off to pay something like 75 dollars to go see him in a football stadium.

― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 8 June 2003 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

afterparty at Chili's!

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 8 June 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread is almost heartbreaking

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 8 June 2003 16:54 (twenty-three years ago)

People in my office have paid several hundred dollars buying tickets from ebay. Why they didnt purchase them when details were announced i'll never know.

― Tina T, Sunday, 8 June 2003 17:01 (twenty-three years ago)

''In ten years time, will anyone still be listening to DMB?
I THINK NOT!''

i don't see why not? ppl listen to kiss and led zep ;)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 June 2003 17:07 (twenty-three years ago)

As long as they play, I'm sure people will listen to them. 10 years ago they probably said the same thing about them, and look where they are now.

― Allison, Sunday, 8 June 2003 17:47 (twenty-three years ago)

...on the downward slope of their career with DMCB breathing heavy on their neck

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 8 June 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Downward slope? Not quite, buddy. Just gettng started.

― Paige, Sunday, 8 June 2003 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh right like they're all of a sudden pull some new trick out of their ass and make some new album that'll just BLOW US ALL AWAY?? Like what, is Dave going to buy a couple dozen Marshall stacks and crank it to 11 and start singing like the guy from Cradle of Filth? Are they going to replace the drummer with Butch Vig? Are they going to make a ska record? No, they're going to make the same record they've made since 1994. Can we start filing this dude in Easy Listening already?

― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 8 June 2003 19:49 (twenty-three years ago)

aaah...i've been saving this thread up to read for ages and it took an hour but it was well worth it. especially as like a few others, i have never heard the dave matthews band, suspect i never will and don't really care... perhaps dave's obsession with stopping "bootleggers" stopped any of his records traversing the atlantic ? any more clarification on the equivalent group that anyone in europe might have heard of (i can't believe that coldplay have loads of improvising soloists or whatever...) ?

― kieron, Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

There's been obvious changes in every record, not that I'd expect you to notice that. I never said their skills would get better...though they have gotten progressively more talented over the years and I don't expect it to stop now. But as long as they make music, I'm sure they'll still have an audience. Since there's no sign of breaking up, their "downward slope" probably won't be in the near future. (sorry)

― paige, Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Whatever mows yer lawn, Paige.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:43 (twenty-three years ago)

some day they'll reach a transcendental state if our calculations of their steady improvement are correct.

at this point the worlds population will merge into one super being, and roam the galaxy looking for skins.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

you can measure their downward slope either in terms of creativity (paige, et. al: do you think Everyday was better than Under the Table and Dreaming?) or in terms of sales/popularity (in which case they peaked five years ago - check the numbers), but pretending they aren't past their peak - however you measure it - just because they're still going to release albums and they still have a fanbase is like pretending Molly Hatchet or Huey Lewis and the News haven't peaker either. Their best days are behind them - the future belongs to DMCB!

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

any more clarification on the equivalent group that anyone in europe might have heard of ?

Sting or Yes?

― Brain, Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh please don't compare DMB to Yes. Yes have at least come out with some imaginative music in their day, however noodley and bloated they may irrefutably be.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I am sure Dave Matthews Fans think the same about him.

― Brain, Sunday, 8 June 2003 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

That his music is noodley and bloated? I agree.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 June 2003 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Sting is a much more interesting asshole than Dave Matthews ever will be

― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 8 June 2003 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

True dat.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 June 2003 21:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Talentwise, yes. Everyday is better than UTTAD, but the future will tell if their peak has passed, or is yet to come. What is your obsession with the friggen cover band? I saw them in Myrtle beach and they were shit compared to DMB. Plus DMB actually wrote the stuff and is somewhat crative in playing their parts...doesn't take much to just play it how it's written (as DMCB do)

― paige, Sunday, 8 June 2003 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

That his music is noodley and bloated? I agree.

haha. Cant see the ones on this board admitting that. Even though its quite true.

― Brain, Sunday, 8 June 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess "noodley" and "bloated" are some sort of complex musical terminology that I'm not aware of. What exactly do you mean by them?

― Paige, Sunday, 8 June 2003 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, no sarcasm or anything: that's a really, really good question.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 9 June 2003 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Millar: Sting is a much more interesting asshole than Dave Matthews ever will be
Ugh. Although I agree completely with the above statement, it still filled my brane with sudden, horrid mental images of Dave Matthews in a tiny white speedo talking about how yoga lets him fuck for 6 hours straight.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 00:36 (twenty-three years ago)

i just always assumed he was stoner rock and that was why he is so huge in boulder.

― keith (keithmcl), Monday, 9 June 2003 00:38 (twenty-three years ago)

You have a hard time figuring out how one could characterize DMB's music as "noodley" and "bloated"? Do your ears work?

"Noodley" (or might I spell it "noodly" or conceivably "noodlesque") could easily be applied to the band's ceaselessly masturbatory penchant for directionless "jamming" and soloing.

"Bloated," meanwhile, as used towards DMB could aptly sum up both their elephantine conceit of musical prowess and the overall lumpen sonic girth that characterizes their music.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 June 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.

― paige, Monday, 9 June 2003 00:51 (twenty-three years ago)

despite my general sympathy for the anti-Daveness, I remain convinced that "Crash" is a pretty good song whose chorus resolves in a really pleasant way

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 9 June 2003 00:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Inevitable Subthread:
DuMB vs Booze Traveller vs Cootie an the Blowjobs...FITE!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 01:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Blues Traveller > Hootie (but just barely) >>> DMB

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 9 June 2003 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)

"I'm the king of the castle, you're the girl with the asshole, crash into me..."

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 9 June 2003 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)

You guys are completely insane. There's a lot of bands that I don't like, but I don't feel the need to bash them like this. Generally, people who are mentally and physically satisfied with their own lives don't tend to announce everything that they hate. Arguing about something as utterly subjective as personal taste where it relates to music is pointless.

― Ryan White, Monday, 9 June 2003 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks Ryan! moderators plz delete ILM

― Millar (Millar), Monday, 9 June 2003 02:58 (twenty-three years ago)

But pointing out the pointlessness of others' actions is completely fucking worthwhile

― oops (Oops), Monday, 9 June 2003 03:01 (twenty-three years ago)

oops is on fire tonight

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 9 June 2003 03:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Ryan, do you see that we're all arguing about our personal taste in music, both those who love DMB and those who don't? And do you further see that, in their staunch defense of their man, the pro-DMB forces have prolonged the lifespan of this argument by about, oh, three days?

Not that ILMers have a problem with this -- hell, look around the board, that's what we do -- but if you have issues with this, why are you still feeding the flames?

― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Monday, 9 June 2003 03:08 (twenty-three years ago)

(Oh no! Have I killed this thread now? Dammit, Sean, why are you always so rational? Moderator, please delete me from the interweb.)

― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Monday, 9 June 2003 03:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Cuz he's yet to see the light! Embrace DMCB Ryan! Accept the true faith!

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 9 June 2003 03:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Ryan , but THATS the point of ILM.

― Thomas W, Monday, 9 June 2003 07:29 (twenty-three years ago)

This is the most bizarre thread ... well, in a long time. What happened? where did these people come from? Did someone post a message saying "here is an anti-DMB site, go and post!" to a DMB mailing list or something?

You learn something new every day.

― kate (kate), Monday, 9 June 2003 07:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Its at nearly 600 posts. What is the longest running thread on ILX?

― Brain, Monday, 9 June 2003 10:18 (twenty-three years ago)

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