Blur: Classic Or Dud

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Critics give high scores to beloved established artists out of reflex. The score means nothing.

Damon is probably more indulged by British rock writers than nearly anyone else, virtually every side project is treated with automatic reverence, people say "genius" with a straight face. I suspect it's because they identify with him more than 99.9% of other pop stars.

Matt DC, Thursday, 23 April 2015 11:35 (eleven years ago)

Seems like critics just needing to appoint a current rock artist a genius, particularly one of Their Generation. I give Albarn a lot of respect for not taking the easy option, but nothing he's done has ever screamed out genius. It's more a case of someone putting a lot of effort in, having a lot of ambition, and really trying pretty much anything. So he's open minded, which is great, though not sure that necessarily equates with genius. All his projects also just make him more interesting/more easier to write about than most of his peers. A bit like a britpop David Byrne.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 April 2015 12:53 (eleven years ago)

David Byrne's a good comparison. I really like the album btw. Coxon and Street make sure it sounds like Blur rather than Damon and friends.

Continue your brooding monologue (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:16 (eleven years ago)

He's so prolific which amazes some critics, perhaps. The Good, The Bad and The Queen album was the best thing Albarn was ever involved with imo.

tayto fan (Michael B), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:36 (eleven years ago)

https://33.media.tumblr.com/9efd6b765cfaf1cb72d5f9dd6172496b/tumblr_nn8ef9UUxR1rbitzio1_540.gif

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 23 April 2015 19:50 (eleven years ago)

Damon is probably more indulged by British rock writers than nearly anyone else, virtually every side project is treated with automatic reverence, people say "genius" with a straight face. I suspect it's because they identify with him more than 99.9% of other pop stars.

― Matt DC, Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:35 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a bit harsh, whether I agree with various British rock writers or not, I'm sure they're not that charmless!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 23 April 2015 19:51 (eleven years ago)

It's a conspiracy that it's getting such across-the-board great review! This thread must be the only source of TRUTH

PaulTMA, Sunday, 26 April 2015 21:13 (eleven years ago)

I like this album a lot on first listen. I've never been a huge fan of anthemic Blur; it's the weird sketches and "let's build a song around this guitar tone" songs I like the most.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 26 April 2015 22:17 (eleven years ago)

I'm astonished by how much I'm loving this record. Possibly second to the self-titled record for me, at this point. Might even top it. For me, it's a subtle, mature, and evolved version of the band in the best ways.

Davey D, Sunday, 26 April 2015 22:39 (eleven years ago)

tbf

this album has a few more highlights than those already mentioned, but it is absolutely and utterly incapable of following up a good song with another good song - every time i'm led to think 'hey, this isn't so bad' it throws a brick into the gearbox

if this was an EP comprising Lonesome Street, Go Out, Thought I Was A Spaceman, MAYBE There Are Too Many Of Us (with altered lyrics) and Pyongyang, I wouldn't have anything bad to say about it, probably

but some of this is 'mature' in an intensely cloying way that latterday albarn has become infatuated with

'new world towers' is perhaps the worst blur song (there are other candidates here too)

carles the jekyll (imago), Monday, 27 April 2015 00:01 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, 'New World Towers' isn't a favourite of mine, it's very safe to say. Having it as the second track on the album is a really bad track sequencing choice, I think.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 27 April 2015 00:09 (eleven years ago)

actually 'ghost ship' is the worst song blur ever did, fucking christ (i'm relistening)

it and 'new world towers' alone justify the hatred, although there's a lot of mediocrity besides imo

carles the jekyll (imago), Monday, 27 April 2015 00:14 (eleven years ago)

I adore Ghost Ship. It's Blur doing Lambchop.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 27 April 2015 00:26 (eleven years ago)

the most charitable i can be towards 'ghost ship' is that it reminds me of when xtc would try something a bit wacky and it would go horrendously wrong

carles the jekyll (imago), Monday, 27 April 2015 00:30 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, 'Ghost Ship' is another one I'm not too keen on. I'd say 'Lonesome Street' and 'There Are Too Many Of Us' are my two big favourites from this record, the rest ranges from okay to being (to me) a bit on the dull side. I can understand why the hardcore Blur fans are getting excited about this record (after all, it's been such a long time since their last one), but I have to say I'm finding the positive critical reaction more than a little mystifying. I don't think there's anything here that stands out as something that one could comfortably file amongst their classics. It's possible that one or two moments on here may grow on me with time. However, for the moment it's just not doing it for me for the most part and I actually think Suede's Bloodsports was a much more successful comeback. I give it a high 2.5/5 to 3/5.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 27 April 2015 00:49 (eleven years ago)

Part of the problem that I'm having with the record is that I'm finding a lot of the vocal melodies what Damon's singing to be a bit on the unengaging side, in pretty much a similar way to how I found parts of The Good, The Bad & The Queen and Everyday Robots unengaging. Some of the singing seems a bit ropey in places, too!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 27 April 2015 00:53 (eleven years ago)

Bloodsports has one genuinely killer track (Faultlines) - the rest is a bit okayish, I thought. But doesn't seem like there's anything as good as Faultlines here.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 27 April 2015 12:22 (eleven years ago)

Pyongyang, My Terracotta Heart, Thought I Was A Spaceman and Ghost Ship are exceptionally good songs

PaulTMA, Monday, 27 April 2015 16:56 (eleven years ago)

30 minute documentary on the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG-2Vy5zZtU

PaulTMA, Monday, 27 April 2015 21:11 (eleven years ago)

to me this really seems to be like blur on autopilot. i always thought "modern life is rubbish" was their apex and "parklife" almost their nadir. this sounds like another "parklife" 20 years on, what a waste of time. maybe that's just me but i found the last damon albarn album much more interesting in terms of sound and songwriting.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 19:20 (eleven years ago)

has any band ever come back with their original line up after such a long spell away, and done anything better than only half decent? i mean.. maybe but not many leap to mind.

― piscesx, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:35 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

let me just add Polvo to the list

― meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:37 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

New drummer though!

Evan, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 16:59 (eleven years ago)

I'm enjoying a lot of these songs in isolation, esp. Spaceman, There Are Too Many Of Us, Pyongyang, but my god, the album's a slog to get through as a whole.

I think it's the lack of variation in Damon's voice and the consistently slow pace of the songs. Even the fast ones seem to drag somehow.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 18:38 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, the track order is a bit all over the place and doesn't serve the record well in my opinion.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 1 May 2015 01:53 (eleven years ago)

There's a Blur forum out there that's an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding this release. In particular, when Pitchfork had the sheer nerve to rate this album a 7.0(!) you could hear the collective hardcore fanboy explosion for miles around. It struck me as being more than a little over the top really, 7.0 isn't a bad score at all, and I actually think most of the reviews of this record (including Pitchfork's) have been a bit too generous.

Even Ned got a mention, I see, in this post!

Re: The Magic Whip Reviews
Post by AdvertBreak » 28 Apr 2015, 14:09

Maybe we should be glad they didn't get Ned Raggett to do it who has returned to them recently. Not only did he gives Wire's new s/t the same 7/10 but he hates Tender and IIRC he's not the biggest Blur fan.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:11 (eleven years ago)

I've listened to this once through. Don't agree with Alex In Manhattan - how does this sound anything like Parklife? Like imago says, every time it feels like it might be getting somewhere, it plunges back down into indistinct singing and workshop rhythms. You'd think that in all the time they'd been away, Blur would manage to pull together some songs, but this is so washy and nothingy. Maybe taken on its own terms, forgetting that this is Blur, maybe it's not so bad though?

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 1 May 2015 08:49 (eleven years ago)

Are they planning any singles from this at all? This sounds like what would have happened if Blur had made an entire album around 'Don't Bomb When You're The Bomb', possibly the weirdest single choice for a band of their stature at the time.

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 1 May 2015 08:54 (eleven years ago)

hang on, wiki says DBWYTB was a ltd edition 7"? I swear I saw it on CD and quite prominently on racks in HMV at the time...

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 1 May 2015 08:55 (eleven years ago)

oh that was music is my radar, which i can't even remember how it goes any more.

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 1 May 2015 08:56 (eleven years ago)

Metacritic should really take the three people posting prolifically in this thread into consideration

PaulTMA, Friday, 1 May 2015 10:12 (eleven years ago)

There's more than 3 people in this thread that have expressed disappointment with this record, and this thread isn't the only place on the internet where people are saying they're disappointed with it.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 1 May 2015 14:53 (eleven years ago)

yeah but if the average reviews are positive, that's not metacritics' fault is it? that's down to reviewers being over generous.

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 1 May 2015 14:59 (eleven years ago)

genuinely think that if you like New World Towers you should be forced out of the crit game for life

an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Friday, 1 May 2015 15:21 (eleven years ago)

'Ice Cream Man' surely must rank highly as one of the most annoying tracks ever to grace a Blur record.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 1 May 2015 16:08 (eleven years ago)

amazing how such a B-sidey track is track 2.

piscesx, Friday, 1 May 2015 16:11 (eleven years ago)

it sounds no better than any of the tracks off the Gorillaz free Xmas Day giveaway album.

piscesx, Friday, 1 May 2015 16:13 (eleven years ago)

whatever the fuck that was called.

piscesx, Friday, 1 May 2015 16:13 (eleven years ago)

The Fall?

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 1 May 2015 16:24 (eleven years ago)

that's the fella.

piscesx, Friday, 1 May 2015 16:24 (eleven years ago)

the synths on this have to be the worst sounding on anything Damon's done except for maybe that

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2015 16:27 (eleven years ago)

I'm enjoying a lot of these songs in isolation, esp. Spaceman, There Are Too Many Of Us, Pyongyang, but my god, the album's a slog to get through as a whole.

I think it's the lack of variation in Damon's voice and the consistently slow pace of the songs. Even the fast ones seem to drag somehow.

― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s)

This is so spot on for me. He sings in the exact same mopey style on almost every song. It doesn't sound like the same guy who sang so brilliantly on Parklife (The album) The three songs you picked are my highlights too.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 1 May 2015 17:19 (eleven years ago)

Well, it has been 21 years since Parklife, but I agree... I'm not a big fan of the vocal style Damon's adopted on some of the tracks on here. That 'New World Towers', Everyday Robots, mopey, drifty, slow songs on The Good, The Bad & The Queen type of approach.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 1 May 2015 20:19 (eleven years ago)

I was trying to order lunch today in Greenpoint and Blur came into the cafe and hounded the waitress to take their order which skipped right over me. I was there first... Then their tour manager asked me (for some reason) whether they were generally slow to bring food out because they had soundcheck to get to.

Evan, Saturday, 2 May 2015 03:54 (eleven years ago)

Somewhat hilariously, Anthony Fantano (alias "theneedledrop") gave The Magic Whip a 6 and mystified a great deal of Blur fans with his descriptions of the tracks. Turns out he was reviewing a fake leak comprising of old Blur B-sides and had to hastily re-do his review.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 4 May 2015 01:18 (eleven years ago)

Oh man that's rich.

Evan, Monday, 4 May 2015 01:20 (eleven years ago)

I'm finally listening to The Magic Whip. It's completely dud-free so far. I've just arrived at Ghost Ship as I type this, which got some undeserved slagging upthread. Y'all crazy. This song is delightful!!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 06:59 (eleven years ago)

Oh dang! Pyongyang is wonderful. Rippling guitar bits ftw!!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:04 (eleven years ago)

I have the japanese edition on order, it's not too expensive if you order direct.

There's an extra track, no doubt it's bobbins but we shall see.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:38 (eleven years ago)

I'm finally listening to The Magic Whip. It's completely dud-free so far. I've just arrived at Ghost Ship as I type this, which got some undeserved slagging upthread. Y'all crazy. This song is delightful!!

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, May 6, 2015 6:59 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wut!?

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 10:12 (eleven years ago)

I'm listening to this for the second time. Was very underwhelmed on first listen, but that was on a minirig in the kitchen and this is on decent headphones. What I'm enjoying quite a lot this time around aren't so much the songs, which are still a bit insubstantial in theory, but the noises. Just these weird bursts of white hot guitar and keyboard blasting in and creating a strange musique concrete melody on tracks 2 & 3. I still wish these tunes were a bit more immediate and I miss Blur as a pop band. But taken on its own, almost trying to forget who's playing this music, it's a cool little avant-pop curio.

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 11:49 (eleven years ago)

This is going to sound strange, given that they've pretty much just come out with a new record, but I find it hard to think of Blur as a "unit" these days. Every time I see a recent press picture of them, I see four individuals rather than a band. It's weird.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:19 (eleven years ago)


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