nice
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 18 April 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
maybe when ppl talk about being disappointed in the shift from 'take care' to 'nothing was the same' is how i feel about this relative to the rich gang tape
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 18 April 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
(which is to say that i didn't think NWTS was worse than TC as much as it was going for something different/more minimal)
the first track and last tracks are so amazing. kind of in the vein of 'givenchy' just thug like i could go forever letting his flow loose on a languorous beat. i hear people on how it's a bit meandering, but imo he is a genius of filling up space on slow tracks. the direction he's going with his flow is so exciting to me. too soon to say how this compares to tha tour but if this is the pre-album mixtape we may be in for a true classic
― flopson, Saturday, 18 April 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
I didn't see those when it first dropped. Not saying they weren't there but there's something very odd about 300's handling of this. There was no official info on Carter 6 from them right up to the moment it dropped. And only then did they rush out to tell us about Hi-Tunes, as if they were distancing themselves from this product right away.
― longneck, Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is 300's whole modus operandi, though. none of the projects they release are loudly announced as coming out on 300, there's mostly just the artist saying they're releasing a mixtape and the usual hype cycle for that, and then it's on retail with their name on it. you only kinda know that's exactly what's gonna happen if it's someone like Kevin Gates who's already done 3 or 4 projects like that.
― some dude, Saturday, 18 April 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
gates isn't on 300 is he? he's atlantic/apg
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 18 April 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
oh right i guess i'm getting all these shady subsidiary situations confused. but like Migos, their last few mixtapes are on iTunes and Spotify via Quality Control/300.
― some dude, Saturday, 18 April 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
only had a chance to listen to the 1st track from this but that shit is crazy
― tpp, Saturday, 18 April 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
there's a purposefulness to the way he deploys his vocal style now that i like more; the songwriting is also much tighter imo
this is otm. i love old thug but re-listening now he is spraying all of his vocal ideas at the same time without too much focus
― tpp, Saturday, 18 April 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
haven't been following the whole beef tbh but this title is a bad look
― tpp, Saturday, 18 April 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
great cover tho!
― tpp, Saturday, 18 April 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
I guess you're right about 300. It just feels weird to switch from "album" to "not this isn't the REAL album, that's coming LATER" within days of its release. Opposite of Drake. Everyone knew he was gonna drop a mixtape - it was made into an album for contractual reasons. Also, the idea that you have to pay for the mixtape violates my sense of what a mixtape should be I guess.
― longneck, Saturday, 18 April 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link
having spent two days with this imo it's great
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 April 2015 01:05 (nine years ago) link
sheesh
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 April 2015 01:14 (nine years ago) link
love all the hooks buried in "knocked off"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 April 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link
"feel like folks went from overvaluing illmatic-like consistency a decade ago to overvaluing BANGERS"
idk if this is a change in taste really. i think the illmatic crowd still wants that; the people into weird rap bangers now are an audience (primarily a young audience) that are largely separate from the 'classic album' crowd and always have been. i'm personally kinda in both.
do love "about the money" but don't think this album needed bangers necessarily, just a bit more variety. that said, upon multiple listens, i'm totally behind "constantly hating," "amazing," "knocked off," "can't tell," "OD," "numbers," and imo thug's masterpiece to date, "just might be." if i lived in LA i would drive around listening to this stuff constantly. gotta check out the tapes i've missed.
― soyrev, Sunday, 19 April 2015 05:03 (nine years ago) link
oh and @misterjoshua i don't hate anyone here looking up my lastfm stats. if anything i'm kinda impressed...~.~
― soyrev, Sunday, 19 April 2015 05:13 (nine years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Thug_discography#Albums
like how he's credited here as the "tit lead" artist, as in the carbon metal
― soyrev, Sunday, 19 April 2015 05:24 (nine years ago) link
Cool if I chill here with yall things on ILE got kinda heated
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link
fucking late to this party but "givency" really is amazing
― soyrev, Sunday, 19 April 2015 09:36 (nine years ago) link
'halftime' is so god damn crazy
― nose, Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:40 (nine years ago) link
halftime is one of the most beautiful compositions IMO
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 00:12 (nine years ago) link
theres really nothing like it
I got bored of it rly quick :(
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 20 April 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link
wait so the wiki page says stoner and danny glover/2 bitches is going to be on HiTunes... was that confirmed?
― misterjoshua, Monday, 20 April 2015 02:02 (nine years ago) link
i hope not, there's a point at which hit singles get so old that they'd make an album less commercially viable (or interesting as an album) rather than more
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link
they've never been commercially released? that's crazy.
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 April 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link
they should just include them as bonus tracks or something
i hate the idea of a kid in 10 years trying to 'get' young thug, picking up his debut album (his 'good kid maad city') & not understanding which records it were that broke him in the national consciousness
i mean... it's a little silly of a concern maybe, but not entirely imo
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 04:23 (nine years ago) link
like no one today complains that 'halftime' was 2 years old when illmatic dropped. you know?
speaking of 'halftime'/'halftime': conscious move or nah
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 04:24 (nine years ago) link
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they've been commercially released as singles on iTunes and stuff (although "Danny Glover" only got sold as "2 Bitches" many months after its initial impact) but yeah have not been on any full-length release (they were gonna be on some supposed EP that got shelved). and of course "Lifestyle" wasn't on the Rich Gang tape at all. that's kind of not even out of the ordinary these days. "0 to 100" is by far the biggest Drake song of the past year and isn't even on his mixtape.
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 04:36 (nine years ago) link
i would guess the real necessity of including it on an album is for grammy consideration? can't imagine that's a real major concern but who knows.
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 April 2015 05:13 (nine years ago) link
it happens all the time, tack a year or two old hot single onto a debut. i agree with deej that it distorts history but i suspect it still helps move some copies, think of it as like a hedge in case none of the new singles pop, people see the cd on the rack with the sticker on it and say, 'oh yeah, the stoner guy'
― flopson, Monday, 20 April 2015 05:23 (nine years ago) link
'hey, the guy who is stoned'
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 April 2015 05:33 (nine years ago) link
Numbers all day.
― longneck, Monday, 20 April 2015 11:18 (nine years ago) link
it's pretty implausible to even imagine Young Thug getting a Grammy nomination anytime soon. and afaik singles are only eligible the year they're released, regardless of when the album comes out (i.e. "i" got Kendrick a couple Grammys before the album was out).
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 13:36 (nine years ago) link
My fave YT beats are the energetic uplifting booming ones which is why I'm disappointed with these idling downtempos.
Not saying this album isn't good in it's own right.
― Arctic Noon Auk, Monday, 20 April 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link
popism is partly to blame for ppl shitting on this record imo
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
first time i put this on i had to listen to it three more times, haven't done that with any hip hop tape/album in a loooong time. totally love it
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 20 April 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
popism or the fact that YT made a few actual pop hits last year and there don't seem to be any on this record? I mean I like it but I can understand someone at least hoping for something as immediate as "Lifestyle" or "Stoner."
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, April 20, 2015 3:12 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark
isn't it just you willfully misreading what people mean by "hits"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 April 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
he's obviously just saving the hits for the album
― flopson, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
maybe he ran out of hits or accidentally dropped them in the ocean
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 April 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, April 20, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz86prvGGOc
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 April 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
'halftime' > 'danny glover'
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, April 20, 2015 2:33 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure for a casual listener i get being confused but for a bunch of rap critics to be vexed by the idea of like, album tracks that are also dope? i think among critics its the fault of popism, among regular ass rap fans its more of a classism type thing w/ people who think young thug = migos = all ratchet rap ever
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
like ppl who can't see a qualitative different between young thug & cash out, say
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
there's such a clear cut expectation of what kind of things a rapper should do or what kind of projects they should release when their career is on the upswing, and Young Thug has kind of confounded them at every turn...when people wanted an essential go-to solo project, instead they got Black Portland, leftovers from Gucci's vaults, and the Rich Gang tape, only the latter of which really satisfied most people or gave them something to rally around, while still not a solo project. i feel like it's possible he didn't realize that when he put together Barter 6, or maybe he knew and didn't care and wanted to keep confounding expectations, which would be consistent with his attitude towards the press, and towards the things people say about the way he dresses, him and Wayne, etc.
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
The more I play this the more every song on it sounds like a hit. Not a regular hit, of course, more like a song you actually want to listen to in a number of different settings.
― longneck, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
This unrequited stalker thing with Lil Wayne is weird,
YT sounding like Lil WayneYT wanting to name his album Carter 6Lil Wayne dissing Thug, saying don't listen to his music, and generally fuck himLil Wayne's daughter calling YT a fraud, YT forcing into not calling his album Carter 6Appears in video in Birdman's jetYT calls his album Barter 6Signs to Birdman's labelFirst song features Lil Wayne's "father", Birdman
― Arctic Noon Auk, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link