New Burial album. More info?

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cheers for the mixes benjamin but not having much luck with the first one either :(

sam500, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

my days, that Dem 2 mix!

oh, it seems that the UV mix has gone down on the Sub FM archive. sorry for the tease! i'll see what can be done, i have it somewhere

in the meantime, one from this guy Average Joe on Uptown Forum, who has been knocking out incredible mixes like no-one's business http://www.sendspace.com/file/tpm3kt - this one focusing on 'the Sun City sound'

m-dubs - over here (original mix)
tuff jam ft tempo o neill - keep holdin on (up mix)
new horizons - find the path (in your mind)(tuff jams d.i.y dub)
new horizons - its my house (bassline mix)
smokin beats - dreams (original with vocal)
operator & baffled - things are never (tuff jam dub)
logic - blues for you (hard dub)
harddrive - deep inside (original)
g.o.d - what you want
kim mazelle - big baby (ramsey & fen mix)
pepper mashay - into you (grants dope dub)
banana republic ft judy obeya - catch the feeling (tuff n jams catch the dub)
24 hours experience - touch the afterworld
a baffled republic - badboys (move in silence)
booom! - hold your head up high (high up club mix)
booom! - hold your head up high (julians badboy mix)
soul II soul - pleasure dome (booker t dub)
new horizons - sweet dj release
g.o.d - untitled (limited 1)
kerri chandler - hallelujah
plutonic - addicted (dj disciple dub)

Benjamin, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

Groove Connektion 2 - Club Lonely (Dem 2 Don't Cry Dub).mp3

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

this thread went from unbearable to awesome

max, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

EXACTLY

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

moar pipeccok

W4LTER, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Listening to that Oris Jay mix now. ha ha how good is 4 Deep Connextion's "Twisted Future", with that weird, incoherent diva wail. In an odd sense speed garage can be even more disorienting than 2-step because you get these seemingly standard house tracks filled with the most bizarre stuff.

Here's another New Horizons remix, slightly less gonzo than the previous ones I posted but I love what they do with the vocals here (in fact this seemed to be quite a trend for New Horizons remixes: recording entirely new vocals, usually of the opposing gender, and then cutting them up or tweaking them so that they sound remixed. It's like they've cut open the original vocals and let out some hidden counter-vocals hidden in their depths).

Danny J Lewis - Spend The Night (New Horizons Mix).mp3

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

good stuff...

...but if possible could you state as to whether those tunes are speed garage, 4x4 or 2step and the year of production so i can put it into some sort of historical reference

see i tend to genre hop form one to the other and leave the previous one behind as a new one pops up...

...having my interest piqued by UKG again i would like to know what if any artists are still making it, excepting the much talked about burial of course

thanx

pollywog, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

All the New Horizons tracks remixes are speed garage from about 1997-1999 (speed garage used 4X4 beats so I'm not sure what that part of your distinction refers to).

The Dem 2 remixes are from the same time period, but are 2-step.

Here's another 2-step track from late 1997, and one of my favourite pieces of music ever:

Amira - My Desire (Dreem Team Remix).mp3

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

do you rate this mix, tim? it's one of my favorites for sure.

tricky, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

I've never been able to find it! Based on the tracklisting it looks great, yeah.

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)

ok now i know what to put in the post! i can't believe it's only got two votes at discogs and that it rates a 3/5. that's WTF material right there.

tricky, Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:31 (eighteen years ago)

how about this DJ EZ release?

http://www.discogs.com/release/111348

dodgy cover and all! it's been hanging around in my local shop for a while now - and it's only a fiver.

sam500, Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:58 (eighteen years ago)

"how about this DJ EZ release?

http://www.discogs.com/release/111348

dodgy cover and all! it's been hanging around in my local shop for a while now - and it's only a fiver.

-- sam500"

can't vouch for that one, but EZ was kinda the man for a while. it was a live mix of his that really got me started in 2-step, he dropped classic after classic. his intro on that mix was silly, it got rewound 3 times, and it deserved it. every single time a new element would come in, the crowd went ballistic.

pipecock, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

"but EZ was kinda the man for a while"

yeah, i remember hearing one of his guest mixes on Kiss FM years ago and it was right on the money. wish i'd taped it now.

sam500, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:58 (eighteen years ago)

That EZ mix is worth picking up if only for Artful Dodger's astonishing and hard to find remix of Valerie M's "Tingles", perhaps the most unabashedly beautiful 2-step ever got.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

no idea how this enters into whatever tf was being discussed but the shanks and bigfoot aiya napa mix tim's recommended before i come back to constantly

deej, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:11 (eighteen years ago)

Tim F - Cheers for the feedback. It's been sitting there for months so fingers crosssed it hasn't been sold yet.

sam500, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:16 (eighteen years ago)

Actually i think it is relevant deej. Critical orthodoxy would dismiss out of hand the possibility of Shanks & Bigfoot making one of the greatest 2-step mixes ever. Again, the temptation people succumb to is to over-stratify the scene so that you've got, say, Shanks & Bigfoot and Artful Dodger being irredeemably pop, Zed Bias being "underground", Dreem Teem repping for soulful conservatism. In reality it was so much more mixed up than that - e.g. Dreem Teem were the masters of brutal metallic basslines (see their remix of Neneh Cherry's "Buddy X", or Dionne Rakeem's "Sweeter Than Wine"), while Zed Bias totally had this very warm, old-fashioned soulful vibe stretching through his work (and ultimately culminating in the Maddslinky album, which is like a 2-step/broken beats crossover attempt).

Anyways, I love the way that mix touches on pretty much everything that was going on at the time, and it has some amazing tracks I've never seen/heard elsewhere (like, how improbably great is the S&B remix of Kavana's "Will You Wait For Me"?!?)

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:19 (eighteen years ago)

Groove Connektion 2 - Club Lonely (Dem 2 Don't Cry Dub).mp3

YES YES YES

i'll try to return the favour and direct you to this page, where you can download Signal To One's lovely 4x4 rmx of Teedra Moses' "You'll Never Find".

and i'll throw in one of my NH favourites - a relatively straightforward production, but love the luscious nocturnal groove going on:

Tuff Jam - Experience (New Horizons Dub)

(now, if only someone had Dem 2's "Desire 99"...)

Mind Taker, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

Amira - My Desire (Dreem Team Remix).mp3

-- Tim F, Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

this is fantastic

deej, Thursday, 29 November 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

^^^werd...

...and that teedra moses tune is fucking sweet too

pollywog, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

Another one of my abolute faves, the rhythmic programming on this is insane, but it's also a great pop song:

David Howard - U & I.mp3

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

Bumping so that you're all reminded to download this track. it really is one of the best things ever.

Tim F, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

It is true, this is a sick tune! Many thanks again for all the gifts. I have been bumping the New Horizons remixes of It's My House and Spend The Night so much, love them. First time I've heard New Horizons that has really connected with me to be honest, but I had heard very little previously. Any other recommendations?

And the Anytime mix is ridiculous. Such a sinister vibe... "im gonna give you love"... the way they make that horn riff take that mood! Then fade out to the sound of locked-groove orgasmic artifice :/ grim

I had a look for that United Vibes 4x4 mix at home and can't find it, only have it on my ipod now, apologies

Benjamin, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THE FIRST SAMPLE?

"i show you light. it burns forever"

^^ from DAVID LYNCH'S INLAND EMPIRE

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:09 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i noticed. i think jed commented about it upthread as well. it's a fitting opener to this strange album.

tricky, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:37 (eighteen years ago)

Praise from Luc Sante in Salon today:

http://www.salon.com/books/awards/2007/12/13/book_week_picks/index1.html

. . . "Untrue" by Burial. Shards of dance-hall music stretched and twisted until it sounds like a heap of ruins, but shot through with elegiac shafts of light. I hear jungle in this, of course, as well as, weirdly, a vein of English classical music, from Purcell to Vaughn Williams.

three handclaps, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

i like this album. but i don't know much about techno music. i think people like it because there's always something sort of melancholy about a certain kind dance songs. like "what is love" by haddaway always seemed sad to me. lots of those eurodisco songs that are on the late night comps seems sad. this is like that except more mysterious sounding.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

probably because it's made up of fucked up samples of such sad eurodisco

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

i believe you...that makes sense.... i don't even really know what eurodisco is, i've only seen in mentioned on ilm...i mean i think i know it when i hear it, like "music hall" even though i've never actually heard music hall music.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

All Saints and Ray J =/ Eurodisco.

xpost. This ain't techno Matt!

jim, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Archangel is probably my favourite track of last year. The rest of the album relies on a similar formula too much, with much less success.

chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

Etched Headplate and Raver are also pretty good, though.

chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

i don't even know what techno is : (

i call everything that's vaguely sample based or electronic that's not hip hop "techno", i guess i'm probably like some guy in the 60s calling hippies beatniks or whatever

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

It's a fairly common US thing to class all electronic music as 'techno', I've noticed.

chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

US heads care less about genre, true

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

i think all the genres actually keep me from checking more stuff out, it's too confusing and i always feel lame for not knowing what all the nomenclature means, so i just don't even bother. it's the same reason i never bought a fall record for years, there were too many and they all had weird names and artwork and it was too imposing.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

It's that wya on purpose. It's much easier if you classify everthying as house music.

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

Beethoven is house?

jim, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

oh definitely

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

if this is your house then yes

http://www.jcraus.com.au/images/Germany1.jpg

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.djouls.com/scape/images/Pole-Steingarten_b.jpg

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

I've made a seven track edit which is much more listenable than the whole album:

1. Archangel
2. Near Dark
3. Endorphin
4. Etched Headplate
5. Shell of Light
6. UK
7. Raver

chap, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

still think this is quite overrated. would rather listen to say the ukg remix of roy davis jnrs gabriel for haunting garage elegies.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

nice to have something not so christianized tho

blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

first album was rightly praised to the skies. this one though, just seems like partly half hearted retread of the first one, unsuccessfully trying to take it somewhere new, and trying to make 'proper' garage but not really making the transition complete and just sitting awkwardly in between. i found the vocals in particular really pretty bad.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

for mary anne hobbs' radio one radio show, the label boss (Kode 9?) did a 15 minute mega mix of the album as a preview.

that might be a bit easier to digest if you dont like the whole album.

a search on teh interwebs usually finds the file.

this album is streets ahead of everything else I've listened to recently.

Unfortunately those streets are around Elephant and Castle.

Hamildan, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

i definitely prefer the first album

latebloomer, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

this one though, just seems like partly half hearted retread of the first one

it's certainly more of the same, but how is it half-hearted? are there any 'full-hearted' retreads made one year after the first?

unsuccessfully trying to take it somewhere new, and trying to make 'proper' garage

i don't think hear any attempt to make 'proper garage' here - over-reliance on that jingling clp-clop 2 step beat maybe, but the tracks that work best with this are as good as the similar ones on the first LP (if only by sounding and being structured so similarly)

i found the vocals in particular really pretty bad.

what is the difference between the vocals on Untrue and those on tracks like 'Distant Lights' and 'U Hurt Me'. nothing of note from what i can tell.

blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 17:12 (eighteen years ago)


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