Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly (2015)

he has a trio with Chris Dave, who is like the most influential contemporary drummer and is the go-to guy for D'Angelo, Maxwell, Badu, etc.

xpost uh no connection with Radiohead and Glasper, clearly you need to be jazzplained to.

― klonman, Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:49 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was being a dick, so sorry about that. but I am still o_O at the idea that radiohead is the primary jazz influence on glasper.

shakey, get on Robert Glasper. One of the great voices of this generation imo; wonderful composer and musician and an important rudder for the future of jazz and hip hop alike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e048--2Wr54

Xpost no problem, didn't want to end up Radioheading this thread, which is never a good look, just felt the similar vibes with Game Theory.

so "sock" is just ilx's word for "troll" now ok

standout track is These Walls for me, cant stop listening to it

just listened to Jeff Weiss on his podcast trying to explain for 15 minutes why he doesn't like TPAB as much as everyone else, and it was pretty pathetic. A lot of stuff like "Why is he doing that stupid whiny voice on "u"?"

I certainly wasn't implying that Radiohead are Glasper's "primary jazz influence". Don't know about Terrace Martin but the fact that two major contributors to the album are obviously big Radiohead fan boys is a pretty big clue that the primary influence on How Much A Dollar Cost is Pyramid Song itself, rather than some hypothetical common jazz ancestor

so "sock" is just ilx's word for "troll" now ok

― some dude, Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Yeah crying 'sock' for the sake of crying sock seems weird to me unless people are gonna start offering theories

I think the sock thing came from people pushing a theory that he was Ott

but he's clearly a UK dude who got kicked off Kanye To The

Auk is Tanuki's sock, he's never copped to it and it was an unnecessary add on
OR
Auk is some opportunistic soul taking on the mantle of Tanuki
OR
Tanuki was always someone else's sock

it's complicated

troll = yes, sock = no

either way all "arguments" proceed from bad faith and false premises so best to move on

ahahaha speaking of Ott i found this in the wikipedia page for Unknown Pleasures yesterday:

Author Chris Ott stated that the album title was likely a reference to Marcel Proust's Remembrance of Things Past.[15]

author Chris Ott

"I think the sock thing came from people pushing a theory that he was Ott"

would explain a lot.

Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly (2015)

"some UK dude"

i love how some ilxrs try this one on as an insult in the same post as claiming radiohead is their favourite band

now "some UK dude" would be a good sock account

Alfred, Lord Ship

who here likes Radiohead? we're all T.Swift and Charli XCX fans.

"Pyramid Song" didn't even cross my mind when listening to "How Much A Dollar Cost". I definitely hear the similarity in the chord progression and pieces of the arrangement now that it's been pointed out but the orchestration is different and the swung vs straight beat creates a very different impact for me.

jazz artists have been referencing radiohead for YEARS. at least a decade. like since Brad Mehldau covered "Exit Music"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrh61KDoKBI

at any rate i don't think that's what's happening on the kendrick record, DJP otm

well jazz dudes covering popular songs is not new, of course. it's just a leap to hear some jazzy chords played by a jazz musician and then assume that they are an homage to Pyramid Song.

apart from the compelling evidence I've already presented in this thread

and the fact that it sounds exactly like Pyramid Song

I mean I don't really care but you dudes are protesting too much

yikes

"Wesley's Theory" sounds like ""Myxomatosis" imo

let's just agree that "Circles" is the superior 'Head rip and move on

fake plastic g'z

glasper in your copyrights

"I didn't notice it sounded like 'Pyramid Song' until someone else pointed it out" is protesting too much?

How Much a Dollar Cost sounds extremely like Pyramid Song, and of course it could be a common ancestor, but this is a record with a song sampling Sufjan Stevens, so I don't think it's weird to think they might be referencing Radiohead as well.

this is hilarious

saddest part is Thom's jazz influence seemed to start with 'Rabbit in Your Headlights'

wtf happened to this thread

my students and i both love this album; it happens rarely, but it's sweet when it does.

its like me and DJP lol

at least with regards to rap music

who is the student and who is the teacher, though?

i assumed he was the teacher in this dynamic

who will give whom the bigger surprise?

Am I the only one that hears "That's All" by Genesis at the beginning of Hood Politics? It's almost like they originally had a sample there but decided to change up the melody a bit and play it live to facilitate the vibe

are you guys really comparing this record to Amnesiac?

um, no?

just for laughs, to kid a butterfly

jazz musicians stealing from british rock musicians? go ahead and laugh. i was laughing too, until i discovered
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/Mother_Nature

are you guys really comparing this record to Amnesiac?

― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:22 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

Bold statement coming from the Dress Comparer

So what do we make of the fact that both of the rappers on top right now, Kendrick and Kanye, are explicitly Christian rappers - from Jesus Walks to Yeezus and Kendrick's two albums - while in the nineties most of the rap that mattered (Wu, for instance) was informed by Islam? There's a thesis in here somewhere. Has anyone ever written anything worthwhile about this apparent shift?