Simon Reynolds - C or D

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LOL @ LOSERS

amon (eman), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

fuck the mase hate, feel so good is one of the top 5 rap singles ever. puffy is one of the top 5 hip hop producers of all time. ill be missing you is probably the best tribute to a dead rapper in hip hop's history

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Dan (Jesus Wept) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

i'm SURE he's kidding.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

but back then street records WERE club hits at the same time so that wasnt that big a deal
i dont remember flava in your era and warning being big pop hits, big rap and R&B hits yeah, but pop? i dunno, but maybe my memory's poor
bad boy did make great hardcore tracks too, but those were usually in the minority compared to the jiggy stuff
the lox made a mistake thinking that tracks like if you think im jiggy were lame - thats still one of their best tracks! no one wants to hear those three losers do their hardcore act for a whole fucking album

okok, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

In the middle of the day now babbbyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
i seem to think of only youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
heeyyy oh..oohhhh yeeaahhh

ELLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

i think this thread should be left alone now as it is meant to be about reynolds (who liked bad boy back in 97 so obv has great taste), but i have made a post about this on www.okayplayer.com if anyone wants to discuss it there, feel free. ive never posted anything there but i thought it was time to post after lurking for so long. i could have made the post here but ILX doesnt deserve the diddy.

okok, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

since this thread has totally lost direction, i have started a new bad boy thread here:
bad boy records - C or D

okok, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

okayplayer is, like, jazzy Urkel-rap heaven, dawg, but yes let's let the people go back to discussing this Reynolds fellow and Pitchfork writers.

ELLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

I hope Simon's appreciating the efforts all you people have gone to on his behalf

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

erm, you do know that ELLI$ is actually reynolds, right?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I don't care much either way

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, dear, it sound terrible if SR did say that thing.

This thread is funny and interesting, in 2002!

the bellefox, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

he really did say that -- in 2003.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

i wouldnt be surprised if elli$ is reynolds - both like bad boy, both know only white loser rap nerds liked wu-tang, both know what real rap is about, both know about REAL things that REAL hip hop listeners know about, and both could educate all of us about hip-hop.

anyway, back to reynolds, i find it funny how people on dissensus and dubstep's forum seem to have trouble formulating an opinion until he gives his hifalutin theory on something and then they either parrot it or alter it slightly and adopt it as their own. reynolds truly must be god. anyway, im done with this post now. its gone off the rails. funny how people still dont believe SR said 'that thing'!

clinton, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Ok, so you're Reynolds then

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

I am not this fellow but i am thanked on a couple of Bad Boy cd's.

I like some Wu-Tang, "only built 4 cuban linx" in particular.

ELLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I am not this fellow but i am thanked on a couple of Bad Boy cd's.

Well you always need somebody to take out the trash don't you?

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

dude, im surprised you liked wu-tang, theyre from an island outside manhattan. theyre not real new york rappers! i think a lot of white people liked them so maybe you shouldnt. not like diddy - no white people bought his music. no siree.

clinton, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

i thank god on all my cds, then elli$

dumdum, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I am friends with D. Dot (Bad Boy producer and the madd rapper) and Black Rob.

ELLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I was P.Diddy's personal fluffer for the entire Bad Boy roster (except Faith and Total, I told Diddy I don't do girls).

ELLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

... so you are Simon Reynolds after all

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Heh. Frankly, i'd rather stick my dick in Puffy than Faith (no homo !).

ELLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

OK this thread took a weird turn.
Elli$ you need to chill a bit. You're mostly right, also Harlem World fucking rules, one of the best rap albums of the late 90s. My friends and I were just talking about "I Need To Be"

I had n*ggas making bets like, did he fuck her yet?
Ask her did he touch her bra, when I say nah they say 'AWWWW'

HOWEVER

The Lox were better on Bad Boy than they have been since.

No way is their first album better than We are the Streets.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

I will give it up for the Lox on "24 Hours to Live" though - "If I had 24 hours to kick the bucket, fuck it, I'd rather eat some fried chicken and drink a nantucket."

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

"See nowadays man you got to know these bitches' age
Cuz they ass be real fast when they be goin' through that phase"

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

WTF@ellis using black popularity as a reason for wack rappers' worth (as if black people all have taste, black masses are just like white masses, masses are masses, prone to the same problems).
also WTF@chastising underground rap and their fans for being a white peoples thing when white people buy and attend concerts of dr dre, snoop 50 et al to the point where they easily outnumber black fans. the ratio of white fans to black fans is prob the same in mainstream and underground rap.

derekjetter, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

EARTH TO ILM: ELLI$ BE TROLLIN YALL

TROLLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

elli$ is whizzite too!

derekjetter, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

stupidest thread-turn ever

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

whatever would reynolds say.

derekjetter, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Ellis isn't white but whatever. And he's not trolling, he's just playing the Mad ILMer.

Also I realized the lyrics I copypasted are wrong, it's "they ass be real fat when they goin through that phase."

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

dude, a few words mistakenly cut and pasted doesnt matter really. whats important is that the essence of that line came through properly, and it did. and its important that we all recognise and realise that yes, their asses DO get real fat when theyre going through that phase. diddy, we salute you for all of this. on behalf of reynolds, he salutes you too (but in a hyper theorised kind of salute)

okok, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

how about a new board, I Love Bad Boy, to confine the Bad Boy Records street team to? all in favor say "uh huh, yeah."

TROLLOLLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Questions for mos of the people who posted on the 7th:

1. Do any of you really think rappers can become superstars without a massive white audience?

2. Raise your hand if you listen to your favorite hip-hop acts in seclusion (be it in your bedroom in your mom's basement, or on your iPod she bought you for your birthday).

3. Raise your hand (don't worry, nobody can actually see you raising it!) if you touch your naughty places when looking at the oiled up shirtless poster of Tupac hanging on your wall next to your bed.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

AGAIN, I HEAR MY NAME!!!
DO THEY MEAN ME? SURELY THEY DO!!!


I FEEL LIKE EMINEM WHEN HE GOT ATTACKED AND DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD FOR SAYING THE N WORD. YES I SAID SIMON FRITH WAS MY NIGGA FOR LIFE BUT THATS COS HE IS - WHEN WE GET TOGETHER WE GIVE EACH OTHER A POUND, GIVE EACH OTHER MAN HUGS, SLAP EACH OTHER FIVES, TALK A BIT OF JIVE, EXCHANGE THE LATEST STREET SLANG AND THEN WE PUT ON OUR BANDANAS, GET IN OUR LEX AND DRIVE OFF INTO THE SUNSET LISTENING TO THE LATEST DIPLOMATS MIXTAPE! AND ANYWAY AS THE RESPONSES MAKE OBVIOUS, IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT RACIAL EPITHETS I USE, I RUN TINGS ON ILM, I RUN TINGS ON DISSENSUS, WOEBOT LATCHES ON TO EVERY SINGLE THING I SAY, HAS MEMORISED MY ENTIRE BLOG WORD FOR WORD AND MENTALLY CATALOGUED ALL MY ENTRIES, AND MAN LIKE MARTIN CLARK STAY TRYING TO IMPRESS ME. I AM TOO BIG! SO CALM DOWN BLUDS AND BLUDESSES, RUDEBOYS AND RUDEGALS (YES I AM ALLOWED TO USE THOSE WORDS WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING ATTACKED AS A WIGGA, AS I SAID A LITTLE EARLIER, I AM TOO BIG! MY GHETTO PASS IS FOR LIFE RUDEBOY!). ANYWAY EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A FETISH FOR THE STREET SHIT (WHICH I KNOW ALL ABOUT BECAUSE AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, I AM PART COCKNEY, AND I AM NOT TOTALY WHITE EITHER, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ASIAN CULTURE BUT I AM PART INDIAN SO THERE! MY ETHNIC PASS IS INTACT YALL!) BUT I GOT NO BEEF WIV ANY OF YOUS PLAYA HATAZ LOL WE SHOULD ALL GO SEE A SCREENING OF PRACTICE HOURS 2 SOON, AND WE CAN DRINK AND SMOKE TOGETHER AS BREDRENS, EMAIL ME IF YOU ARE ALL COOL FOR THIS COS THAT WOULD BE MASSIVE. BIG UP TO MARCUS NASTY AND ALL MY MANS IN LOCKDOWN, BIG UP TO ALL BLOGGERS DRIVEN OUT OF CYBERSPACE, STAY STRONG IN THE BLOGOSTRUGGLE, SHOUT OUT TO ALL CADBURYS CREME EGG MASSIVE, EAT YOUR YOLK AND LICK FROM INSIDE, BIGGLE!

YOURS, GRIMEY 'ENDZ 4 LIFE' SIMEY

grimeysimey, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

1. i notice mention of meltzer on welk, upthread. what can this be? it is a pity sinker is absent

2. i dont understand the implication that only 'street teamers' would like bad boy records. it seems to be a recurring theme on the internet, that posters dont really like popular music, that it is somehow a stance, somehow faux, as though ordinary people somehow don't use the internet. this is not limited to just this board. it is also interesting how bad boy records somehow came to stand for 'commercial nonsense' (whatever that is), in the eyes of 'purists' (whoever they are), and, perhaps more predictably, non hip-hop fans

3. i am impressed by the depth of knowledge grimeysimey displays about reynolds. but i think we are missing something crucial here, his (on the down low) love for mid80s butthole surfers

terry lennox. (gareth), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

oh, i notice this thread also mentions julie tippetts. a thread with both julie tippetts and ma$e on, surely cannot be all bad?

terry lennox. (gareth), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

okok, it's a ma$e quote. And an awesome song. Also, you are boring.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

can someone photoshop a pic of spock looking at a phonebooth?

'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

AGAIN, I HEAR MY NAME!!!, etc etc etc.

Roffle. Well done.

xero (xero), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Questions for mos of the people who posted on the 7th:
1. Do any of you really think rappers can become superstars without a massive white audience?

2. Raise your hand if you listen to your favorite hip-hop acts in seclusion (be it in your bedroom in your mom's basement, or on your iPod she bought you for your birthday).

3. Raise your hand (don't worry, nobody can actually see you raising it!) if you touch your naughty places when looking at the oiled up shirtless poster of Tupac hanging on your wall next to your bed.

I call bullshit on that. Once again, my offer to take you to East Oakland and to Sweet Jimmy's stands. Your mouth's writing checks your ass can't cash.

metal shows
Harumph.

viborgu, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't really get your point, hoss. I'm not trying to say that I'm some kind of real thug from the streets or anything. I just get a kick out of internet hip hop fans. I don't even listen to hip hop that much anymore. The last hip hop album I loved was Soundbombing 2 if that tells you anything. I don't understand the whole 'let's go to East Oakland and get beat up by black people angle' either. What exactly are you trying to express with that? That the residents of East Oakland would "stomp" me simply because I'm white? I used to live by the Coliseum and spend about half of my time in Fruitvale, and I've never had a problem with anybody. Maybe these places aren't as scary as rumors say they are?

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

deej, you are thoroughly mediocre. come back when you have something resembling an opinion.

okok, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

(xxxpost, again: On further consideration that is actually pretty fucking low and I now feel bad for laughing. But I did.)

xero (xero), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

2. i dont understand the implication that only 'street teamers' would like bad boy records.

long live the American/Brit humo(u)r divide!

TROLLI$, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

(And I'd agree with Reynolds upthread that the initial poster seems suspiciously like a sock puppet created by someone with a huge personal ax to grind. None of which has anything to do with whatever you people are talking about. Carry on.)

xero (xero), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

everyone stop fighting for a second and go vote in my Jay Z vs. BDP poll- it's a good question

then return and continue to rip throats

thanks

jsoulja (jsoulja), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

jsoulja shut up, your name is jsoulja

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 8 December 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)


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