Full Rolling Stone interview is a good read
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:25 (nine years ago) link
But are there any long hip hop albums that actually justify their length and don't feel bloated?
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:25 (Yesterday) Permalink
Cuban Linx ... Could keep going I'm sure
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link
Life after deathAll eyez on me
Etcetera
Looking fwd to this obv although this quote is super douchey lol:
Lamar is vague about what specifically the title To Pimp a Butterfly means (“That will be taught in college courses someday,”)
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:43 (nine years ago) link
totally into kendrick knowing about his rapping superpowers
― brosario nawson (m bison), Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:49 (nine years ago) link
lot of overlong, bloated rap albums. but theres also a lot that are necessarily long. eg - wu tang forever, de la soul is dead, 3 feet high, fear of a black planet. not 100% sure about the cover, its more the kind of cover id expect from idk, someone like gunplay. and while i like kendricks harder tracks a lot (maybe best), not sure i want a whole album of him doing 'angry', though im sure it wont be.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 11:38 (nine years ago) link
also overlong albums aren't the end of the world, esp. when you can just skip around!
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
wu tang vinyl was like 4 records when i was buying their stuff. at the end there. i would never listen to a whole album. too much work. but 3 songs a side or whatever made them sound nice. the skits, man, blame the cd for the skits. they should put out skitless reissues of 90's albums.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
great cover
― example (crüt), Thursday, 12 March 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
official tracklist apparently
01. Wesley's Theory02. For Free? (Interlude) 03. King Kunta04. Institutionalized05. These Walls06. U07. Alright08. For Sale? (Interlude)09. Momma10. Hood Politics11. How Much A Dollar Cost12. Complexion13. The Blacker The Berry14. You Ain't Gotta Lie (Momma Said)15. I16. Mortal Man
― Number None, Thursday, 12 March 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
He's covering Suicidal Tendencies?
― MarkoP, Thursday, 12 March 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
my generation got Am I Black Enough For You? which was 53 minutes and 43 seconds long. which was only about 9 minutes longer than the 1966 debut album by The Doors. (schoolly was a baby boomer and i was gen x though. so, we weren't really of the same generation...we both lived in philly at the time though and we both had awesome hair...)
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
illmatic is under 40 minutes. which is one reason why people never stopped playing it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
If there are only 16 tracks, two of which are interludes, then there are going to be some long fucking songs on this album. I suspect The Blacker The Berry goes on longer than the version we've heard, for one thing.
If every one is a killer then I can deal with length, it's when you get 20+ tracks on a CD that it starts to grate.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
most look to be around 4 and change to 6, and the last track is 12 minutes and change according to the itunes listings, but "sing about me (i'm dying of thirst)" was that long and didn't become tedious imo
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
also, id like to propose a ban on using the word pimp in future rap titles. its like a title common might come up with. trying to marry some sort of maya angelou type of literary grace with idk, too short or willie d.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
via Rob on the dancehall thread:
I'm glad this piece on Assassin not being credited on rap songs was written, and I hope he does get credited on that Kendrick track when it's more official: http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2015/03/12/392541701/assassin-raps-best-kept-secret.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
what was the last rap album that people here loved all the way through? like, every song. and you wanted to hear it over and over. just curious. i loved kendrick's first album but i didn't really play it a zillion times. sounded great the first week i had it though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
first thing that comes to mind was E-40's Sharp on All 4 Corners (another great example of a guy who releases a ton of material and has good quality control) but I'm sure there's been something more recentand even on albums from artists i love there's always a few bum steers
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
people here really liked run the jewels. so, i'm guessing run the jewels would be one...
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
i'm still pretty album-oriented. i like a good album experience. it's hard for me to find a modern rap album where i love the whole thing. just cuz there is always so much. my kingdom for an illmatic-length ten song stunner.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
there's a whole rap thread scott. lol
i can generally find 6-7 albums per year where i'm not really skipping around at all
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
this is what i'm playing this week. lots of stuff i've never heard. mostly i just want to play the best of youngbloodz cd. i've never listened to a madvillain before...
https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11060270_10153771126967137_6184565302170893890_n.jpg?oh=424e6d97641e1ca8368a84766a22a633&oe=55B60774
https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11037634_10153771127982137_6355487955120264057_n.jpg?oh=2b7e2c566aab9a877a223eac45e1b96c&oe=558C86D8
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
my krazy life, RTJ2, yeezus, old (danny brown) are prob the best non-GKMC ones. tbf a few songs on krazy life took a whiiiile to grow on me
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
not to derail things further from general kendrick conversation, but scott, vince staples' shyne coldchain vol. 2 is like 27 minutes, 10 tracks and pretty complete/dope as is
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
I love that Juvenile album.
― Steph def def (Spottie), Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:01 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm not even thinking of these ... vic spencer, a-wax, back from the dead 2, the boosie tape, jacka's tape ....i forget what else i liked last year
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
in addition to RTJ2 and danny brown and a-wax, i would also suggest the following as complete albums released last year: Freddie Gibbs/Madlib's Pinata, Black Milk's Glitches in the Break, isaiah Rashad's Cilvia Demo, Gene the Southern Child's Southern Meridian, DJ Quik's Midnight Life, Rick Ross's Mastermind, Shabazz Palaces' Lese Majesty.
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
no to RTJ
― example (crüt), Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
all good info. kendrick can wait.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
i'm enjoying the big k.r.i.t. album right now! only 4 songs in...
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
Open Mike Eagle's record, milo, Chance, Danny Brown, RTJ, Kanye, clipping, Heems, all relatively recent + great album experiences (not goon-approved though, sorry).
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
Rick Ross's Mastermind
eh i dunno that this is good front to back
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
i dunno that the badazz tape is good front to back either but differing opinions differ
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
lol scott 'are there really any good front-to-back rap albums like the utter total classics of the genre'
everyone 'have you listened to all of the records that anyone has praised since then'
― j., Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
http://knockemdeadrecords.com/shop-m-c-schmidt-batu-malablab-lp.html#f8c85872109375d05a0f02a51fc0b2ae
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
ah shit nevermind that
― StillAdvance, Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:24 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^this is what I meant to post
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
To answer Scott's question: last year's Vince Staples mixtape, Danny Brown's XXX - those are the ones that leap immediately to mind.
tbh all those track titles (if true) look a tad on the corny side
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link
"lol scott 'are there really any good front-to-back rap albums like the utter total classics of the genre'"
"everyone 'have you listened to all of the records that anyone has praised since then'"
just looking for the most recent "wow, i love this whole thing and i can't stop playing it!" kinda examples.
that's all really. with so many CDs being 17+ tracks or whatever, that's not always easy. but people here find lots to love! which is cool. cuz i like to check stuff out.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link
not EVERY cd that is praised rewards multiple listens. they might be half great/half okay.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:18 (2 hours ago) Permalink
Ur really comparing that middling ass Ross cd to...never mind
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
04 Institutionalized
*opens a pepsi*
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link
Is CD-era bloat even much of a thing as far as major label rap releases go anymore? If Kendrick's album fills out a full CD, it feels like the exception if anything. Most recent big commercially-released rap albums have been 40-65 minutes. The mixtape circuit is different, sure.
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:16 (nine years ago) link
yeah rap albums haven't shrunken since the '90s like rock albums have, but they've definitely gotten shorter on average.
― some dude, Friday, 13 March 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link
i just like good flow. if i'm gonna listen to a cd. i feel kinda old-fashioned just for listening to a cd. they can sound really good though! that is the other thing i love about more recent albums, REALLY good sound! that is something i can get behind. there is some serious digital beauty out there. a lot of downloads kinds blow sound-wise.
― scott seward, Friday, 13 March 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link
deej at some point you are gonna have to get past the narcissism of small differences thing as something other than a grave affront to TRUTH in mile high blazing letters
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 March 2015 04:58 (nine years ago) link
i'm like 99% sure this is a half-assed back and forth that we've been doing for almost ten years now and it is very very boring
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 March 2015 04:59 (nine years ago) link
almost as boring as rick ross' 'mastermind' lol
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 13 March 2015 05:51 (nine years ago) link
Man, this album is so fucking good
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
yeah, it's evergreen
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link
any word on his new album? seemed some talk that it was coming out in 2020 but haven't seen much lately
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
so fucking great
― brimstead, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
This went way leftOn some Andy kellman core lolI think I like it but not what I expected― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, March 16, 2015 4:10 AM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
On some Andy kellman core lol
I think I like it but not what I expected
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, March 16, 2015 4:10 AM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
What's that? #latepass
― Andy K, Monday, 26 October 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link
This album is easily top ten of the last decade for me, so stacked with good songs that it's remarkably easy to sleep on some of them. I don't know how many listens it took me to realize that "Complexion" was actually great, even if it's only like the tenth best song on the album
DAMN hasn't held up as well, but I still eagerly await the next album
― Vinnie, Monday, 26 October 2020 10:11 (three years ago) link
Jesus christ, what a transcendental work. I casually threw this on for the first time in a while but couldn't stay casual for long.Hope he'll have something to share with us soon. Every couple months he trends on twitter and I get my hopes up that he dropped something but it's always just people using his name for clout. Curious to hear how fatherhood has influenced him.
― Fetchboy, Saturday, 6 February 2021 07:33 (three years ago) link