Search And Destroy: Afghan Whigs

Search: pretty much everything not on here
Destroy: the people who decided not to rerelease/remaster the whole catalog (maybe they will, though, someday, who knows?)

One disc is always going to be incomplete, isn't it?

(hell, just click on "whigsbitch" and check out all the other stuff this guy/girl has uploaded on youtube)

was really going ham on "black love" a week or so ago, listening to basically nothing else. some pretty amazing moments but all in all it's a really frustrating record. the magic of "gentleman" is missing somehow, greg dulli's singing struck me as really lazy, out-of-tune for no good reason. the worst is the mixing, it must be dulli's rhythm guitar that's pushed up so far, why? he just grinds away on like two notes. isn't this supposed to be funky? let the bass lead. rick mccollum is some kind of rough genius tho. and the drumming is really good; i read in an interview years and years ago that dulli booted a drummer for basically being a druggy raver? was that this guy?

songs like "night by candlelight", i don't get why the strings don't even seem like they're arranged. there are these big crescendos, but the bass and the chords aren't even the same, everyone is sawing away with emotion. yeah yeah i get the stonesy shambolic thing but this is a big unfocused mess.

hmm...interesting i've always liked it more than gentlemen...not really scrutinized the mix though.

but honestly i loved this album at a point in my life when i was very young, very depressed, and very drunk and it was so perfect for that i can't really judge it from a distance.

ha i feel the same way about gentlemen!

the "hard bitten lifer dude at the bar telling you kids crazy stories" steez about dulli that made a HUGE impression on me as a kid. hard relationships, drugs, booze, bad decisions, leather jackets, old records, sexy ladies with crazy problems, getting your shoes shined, bailing out your friend who got caught at a cockfight, bad shit going town to-ni-ee-ight, all that. i dunno if i'm just OLD now but it doesn't wear very well anymore. half the time i just want to say, greg, come on, your life isn't really like this. relax.

a friend of mine worked on a whigs video shoot a looong time ago and said that dulli showed up way way late, drinking a bottle of whiskey and walking with a pimp cane

gentlemen was the last one with the original drummer, then black love had a new drummer, then 1965 had another new drummer iirc

yeah dulli is totally over the top with the shtick, but somehow it seemed to usually work. dude is v. good at playing rock star.

Their version of Come See About Me is still probably my favourite cover of all time.

^^^ YES

like their Creep and Can't Get Enough Of better, I think

still can't figure out what the hell honkey's ladder is about. Is this song about race and class? or is it just about some crime movie that I haven't seen?

oh also, after 3 years, I just found my copy of black love.

Love Black Love, especially Night by Candlelight.

Anyone know the origin of the song title Vampire Lanois? Dulli get mad at Daniel Lanois or something?

It's not a dis. iirc they were New Orleans pals back then and its a nod to his fashion sense

Ah. That's neat-o.

Gentleman is a quite a good record. It has aged very well.

it has about three or four very good songs. and the rest is a mess. i can't work out whether it's an appealing mess or not.

REVIVE FOR RETURN OF WHIGS (i think the revive thread was on the sandbox)

http://www.zooborns.com/.a/6a010535647bf3970b011571a1f52b970b-800wi
Hyssop...in my perfume?

is it just coachella or a full tour?

...OR A TOUR AND ALBUM HUSH

they're not doing Coachella.

So far they're doing our shows in London and Asbury Park plus Primavera in Barcelona and Porto.

Cannot WAIT.

Supported by Archers Of Loaf!

it's an ATP in London in May, then Dulli curating one in New Jersey in September

oops xpost

sorry, mixed up huge-festivals-i'd-never-do

no separate tour tho?

Haven't heard about one yet.
I wouldn't say we're huge though.

ATP = approx 5000 people. Coachella = 90,000.

I wonder if they'll play a Faith No More and barely play the U.S.

weren't FNM always bigger in europe anyway? I'm not too surprised that they mainly only played biggish european shows.

they have too many fans in the US to not tour here too

http://www.boweryballroom.com/event/120623

Curley!

"It will be nice to experience the Whigs again as a grown-up," jokes Curley. "In my mind, the Whigs were a live band above anything else. Playing shows always was our favorite part about being in the band, and the times when we felt the most freedom and release. I missed playing at that level; I missed playing the songs that we wrote, that meant so much to people - and to us."

i really hope they tour

I do too but I'm grouchy about Lollapalooza and their stupid 100 mi clause (or w/e it was called) because that means I am going to have to travel to see them because I sure don't want to go to gross Lollapalooza.

I told myself I'd buy a Lolla ticket for the day if they were on the same day as Black Sabbath. They are, so I go tone. Also Black Keys, Black Angels and Tame Impala.

Wow, yeah Sabbath + Whigs is mighty tempting, but the vibe there is so overwhelmingly AWFUL that I don't know if I can stomach it!

I told myself I'd buy a Lolla ticket for the day if they were on the same day as Black Sabbath.

Same, though haven't done it yet. Of course, Friday is sold out...

Whigs live were one of the best live bands I've ever seen. I'm worried they'll pull a Faith No More and play Lolla then nothing else in America.

wait is it Whigs + Eagles Of Death Metal or Whigs + Joseph Arthur (whose bio is posted under the Whigs')? Far more interested in the former, though I'm guessing these tickets will go in five seconds.

EoDM site is promoting the show, so maybe Arthur backed out?

never mind, I'm an idiot. With Arthur in May, with EoDM in October.

Whigs live were one of the best live bands I've ever seen. I'm worried they'll pull a Faith No More and play Lolla then nothing else in America.

They already have other gigs booked in America - one of the first two announced in the reunion was American. I'm sure they'll play a proper NA tour once they've run out of festivals around the world.

I do too but I'm grouchy about Lollapalooza and their stupid 100 mi clause (or w/e it was called) because that means I am going to have to travel to see them because I sure don't want to go to gross Lollapalooza.

They're playing one of their only club shows on the tour so far a whopping 12 minutes walk from my bedroom, such a pain in the balls that'll be :D

(they've never come to this country before though so)

your balls must hurt really badly :-/
(congratulations btw, you will enjoy the show guaranteed)

Review and set list here:
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/backstage-pass-1.811987/afghan-whigs-amazing-reunion-at-bowery-ballroom-1.3738193