Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil

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(also asfaik you can just throw them in itunes or w/e and they will make Mp3s out of them)

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

I've used Switch to convert FLACs

Brad C., Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

Maybe it's not so surprising after all. Columbia uses the same snake oil as Colorado, the same snake oil as Niagara and the same snake oil as Sky, and costs a fraction of their prices.

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

i was just concerned specifically about the hi-res aspect, like I know you can't just convert a 24-96 flac into a wav without some sort of downsampling process, wasn't sure if the same applies to MP3s.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 February 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

What? Of course you can have a 24/96 wav. That's what they made the flac from

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link

hey actually can anyone instruct me into how to rip regular old decent-sounding 320 MP3s from hi-res 24-96 FLACs?

I use All2MP3.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

xld imo
My standard for audio conversion is to look at the guidelines for whatever the snootiest private torrent sites use

mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 02:53 (nine years ago) link

http://bgr.com/2015/02/19/sony-premium-sound-memory-card/

StanM, Friday, 20 February 2015 04:59 (nine years ago) link

i also use all2mp3

the late great, Friday, 20 February 2015 05:04 (nine years ago) link

Perfect for the potential Audiophile Snake Oil aspect, Mediamonkey allows you to set both the bitrate and the "Encoding Quality". I have found no documentation, but i presume the highest encoding quality regards the extent that the tracks are read, written and compared.

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On other things Snakeoil; Sony claims this SD card makes your audio sound better by minimizing excess electrical noise......... sheesh

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

the problem I found with Mediamonkey (MM in itself was really great) is it seems to play badly with itunes. Like unfortunately I have to have itunes on my machine bc of owning an iphone, this is literally the only reason itunes is still tolerated by me bc I play my music on a Rockboxed Sansa Clip with SD cards, I tag my files with xAct and do my lossless to lossy conversions with xAct... anyway just the fact that MM and iTunes were both active on the same machine led to some serious snafus for me and I probably won't fuck with MM again until I have done away with itunes altogether...

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

Good luck.

More props to Rockboxed Sansa Clip!

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link

so fucking great! only pitfall is battery life of course.

might try the 200 dollar walkman that takes micro SD cards this year. Basically I don't foresee ever using a player that doesn't have expandable memory ever again, it's just too fucking satisfactory for me.

a date with density (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

Ha, I thought the revive was about this bit of preciousness today:

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2015/02/audiophiles_neil_young_s_pono_has_brought_unfair_scorn_for_lovers_of_high.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

#notallaudiophiles

a date with density (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link

question : how can a 40W amp blow speakers that are rated at 120W ?

i need to replace my floorstanders as the tweeters have blown.

arse.

(that said i got my bonus today, so, good timing as it means i can move to the next level of floorstanders .. )

mark e, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

Like unfortunately I have to have itunes on my machine bc of owning an iphone, this is literally the only reason itunes is still tolerated by me

this is exactly what my situation is

sleeve, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link

question : how can a 40W amp blow speakers that are rated at 120W ?

i need to replace my floorstanders as the tweeters have blown.

arse.

(that said i got my bonus today, so, good timing as it means i can move to the next level of floorstanders .. )

― mark e, Friday, February 20, 2015 1:18 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did you turn it up really loud? because i think the thing w/higher rated amps is they deliver clean power, not distorted signal which can be damaging

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

yes i did.
no neighbours .. so i went full on.
cannot deny, it was truly awesome
i was prepping myself for the j&mc/psychocandy gig this week basically
i can compensate via adding more treble via the amp etc, but hey.
time to upgrade.
any excuse.

mark e, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

40W into what impedance?

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

also Matt could be right and maybe the 120 W rating doesn't cover full spectrum

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

audio gear specs are the worst

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link

40W into what impedance?

no idea.
ok . checked .. "4-8"
is this something i need to consider when i get replacements ?
sorry if this is a noob question ..

mark e, Friday, 20 February 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link

Well it probably doesn't matter for the 40W continuous average power spec, but maybe the amp is capable of delivering much larger powers for a short duration and that's what damaged your speakers. I know my NAD amp has a spec 'dynamic power' that is much larger than the continuous average power spec, and this dynamic power has a strong dependence on speaker impedance.

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

but perhaps speaker ratings are for continuous average power, and it doesn't matter

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link

bottom line : "you pushed your system too far by playing psychocandy at levels that were beyond pleasurable."
luckily, its not serious ..
and means i get to have fun tomorrow as i figure out the replacements !
beginning to think i need to get a decent dedicated amp as well as i have one of those all in one systems that is no longer necessary as i can play DAB via my sonos setup ..

mark e, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link

might try the 200 dollar walkman that takes micro SD cards this year. Basically I don't foresee ever using a player that doesn't have expandable memory ever again, it's just too fucking satisfactory for me.

I'd seriously recommend the Fiio X1, I've had it for a while and it's pretty great. It costs almost half of that Walkman does, it plays FLACs and WAVs, and it works with SD cards up to 128GB. And the sound quality and battery life are way better than with Sansa Clip (that was my previous player). The only downsides are that it's kinda bulky, and the "list all tracks" function is kinda worthless, as it lists them by filename and not by the trackname in the metadata. But other than that I've really enjoyed it, it has several small but neat functional improvements over cheaper players like Sansa, definitely worth the 100 euros I invested.

Tuomas, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link

I can't wait to get my upstairs room remodeled. I have my dad's Pioneer speakers from like... 1972 in there that are fun to sit around and listen to.

mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

xpost to tuomas

I've looked with interest at the X1. Its issues with metadata-based views are not a big deal to me as I pretty much use "folder view" all the time on my Sansas and I don't really make custom playlists much. Besides its size, which might be fine for me, my concerns with the X1 are:

--it seems like I might not be able to just take the various micro SD cards I've spent so much time compiling over the last year and stick 'em in the X1 and go. I'm seeing that people often have to reformat their SD cards mounted in the X1 itself to get em to work properly. The idea of having to redo my SD cards is a bummer. Were you able to use the same cards from your Sansa right away or did you have to reformat and refill them?

--hmm that might've been the only major misgiving.

a date with density (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

xp I love old speakers. I have these old dudes:

http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/14/81/45/19/2012-111.jpg

they are so heavy

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

The Fiio manual says they recommend using cards formatted to FAT32, but other formats should work just as well. I was able to use the card I had in my Sansa as such, but that was already in FAT32, so I'm not sure if it would the same if it was in NTFS, even though Fiio claims NTFS should work.

However, the X1 has no automatic firmware updater, so you have to download the firmware and put it on your card, and that firmware only works from a FAT32 card, so you should have at least one of those. (The card doesn't have to be empty though, you can just put the firmware file there even if has other files already.) If you organize music by folders and get the X1, I'd recommend getting the latest firmware, because it includes a "continuous folder play" update, which is pretty neat: it'll then play all the folders within a larger folder in a row, so if you've, say, organized all your jazz albums in one genre folder, you can just listen to them in succession.

Tuomas, Friday, 20 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah. That was the other misgiving. I've never had to flash firmware to a device from a card or thumb drive before and it seems intimidating. Though if I was able to install rockbox on my iPod classic I could probably figure out this too.

My micro sd are all formatted to fat32 to work with rockboxed sansa clips so if it worked for you transitioning to the x1 it'd probably work for me...

a date with density (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link

this thing is so fuckin sexy i can't stand it (and seems like a reasonable price for what it does) - phono stage, headphone amp, DAC, SD card slots, Bluetooth, etc etc

http://ifi-audio.com/products/retro/

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0195/8522/products/Retro_Pic.jpg

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 February 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

weird, I would think exFAT would be the preferred format

mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

never mind, I didn't realize that's a patent-encumbered filesystem :(

mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link

question : how can a 40W amp blow speakers that are rated at 120W ?

This has already mostly been answered by Sufjan but i'll add another couple cents-worth.

Blasting 40W into 120W speakers is precisely how one would blow their speakers. So, you need more power in that amp if you're trying to rock out. Generally, match the amp's wattage with that of the speakers for the given impedance. Also remember that most consumer-level amps grossly exaggerate their output wattage. The aforementioned NAD has honest numbers, so does Marantz -- i wouldn't trust any wattage claims from anything from a bigbox (their claims of 600-800 watts may in reality equal an honest rating of 80-100 watts).

I've cooked more than a couple speakers for the same reason, but i'm still unsure if having the above knowledge could have saved me in those dark spirals into decibeland.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 20 February 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link

this thing is so fuckin sexy i can't stand it (and seems like a reasonable price for what it does) - phono stage, headphone amp, DAC, SD card slots, Bluetooth, etc etc

http://ifi-audio.com/products/retro/

couldn't find a price; how much is it?

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link

it doesn't seem to be available at dealers yet, though i didn't look at all of them

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link

Ha, I thought the revive was about this bit of preciousness today:

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2015/02/audiophiles_neil_young_s_pono_has_brought_unfair_scorn_for_lovers_of_high.html

― Ned Raggett, Friday, February 20, 2015 1:08 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe, but I don’t read articles jeering at people who spend $400 on a meal (which disappears once they’ve eaten it), or $80,000 on a car, or $10 million on a painting.

hmmm....

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link

all of that seems pretty obscene to me.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

would have been so much better as a "better sound on a budget" piece by someone not apparently independently wealthy, say upper mississippi sh@kedown

hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

tbf he might scoff at them

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:43 (nine years ago) link

It does bum me out how much articles like that actually hurt his supposed cause*

*though his actual cause might just be being a dick

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link

Xxxxpost that Retro thing is 2k which isn't too bad imo

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link

Also I will fully cop to just being in love w how it looks, hubba hubba

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 February 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link

It does look great but the missing killer feature is DLNA streaming capability.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 21 February 2015 03:42 (nine years ago) link

Xxxxpost that Retro thing is 2k which isn't too bad imo

― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, February 20, 2015 5:46 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and....i'm out. yeah, it's not egregious, but still way beyond my price range ATM.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 21 February 2015 04:24 (nine years ago) link

To illustrate, consider the trust with which you reluctantly lend out your most prized LP. You know from experience that it’ll be returned irreversibly damaged, regardless of how careful the guy said he’d be with it. Once scratched, no matter how scrupulously you’d clean it, it could never again be the same. So it is with traditional cable models: distortion occurs as sure as that prized record will have been damaged, and the technology employed to remedy the situation is only good enough to produce an imitation, to try to distract our attention from the various imperfections of the audio signal.

What makes the Tunnelbridge brilliantly effective is that rather than allow the original signal to wind up in the hands of our "untrustworthy borrower," (sure to be returned damaged), instead it has a surrogate clone take the place of the original signal. In this way, the original signal remains perfectly preserved under watch, while only the cloned copy is "lent to the borrower."

so this is like the prestige of audio cables??

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 23 February 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link

send in the clones

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 23 February 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link


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